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19 Jul 2015, 5:02 pm
19 Jul 2015, 5:17 pm
19 Jul 2015, 5:19 pm
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
But this is not how we use toilet paper for cleaning after poop LOL ...we don't apply water on the toilet paper or paper towels, except for guys washing the penis'urethra after peeing, which requires little water.
Water (and soap if necessary) is applied directly on the butt or genitals - toilet paper is also used for wiping (after washing) and then drying - I believe we consume toilet paper way more.
In the Levant, the bidet (which is a french invention yet not so common in France, ironcially) is the most common tool for that, it is also very common in Italy; next comes the small hand shower placed next to the seat which is common in other Arab countries.
Filipinos even use special kinds of bucket, Filipinos have a very hygienic culture btw, and I think most Asian communities apply something similar.
Bidet in my opinion is the best choice because no risk that its shower accidentally touches the anus.
It is a BASIC hygiene lesson that is part of the toilet training we do to our kids - little girls especially are trained how to properly wipe after washing without risking to contaminate their urethra (ie. never from back to front).
And I find it so appalling that all this is completely missing in the brit cultures.
Water (and soap if necessary) is applied directly on the butt or genitals - toilet paper is also used for wiping (after washing) and then drying - I believe we consume toilet paper way more.
In the Levant, the bidet (which is a french invention yet not so common in France, ironcially) is the most common tool for that, it is also very common in Italy; next comes the small hand shower placed next to the seat which is common in other Arab countries.
Filipinos even use special kinds of bucket, Filipinos have a very hygienic culture btw, and I think most Asian communities apply something similar.
Bidet in my opinion is the best choice because no risk that its shower accidentally touches the anus.
It is a BASIC hygiene lesson that is part of the toilet training we do to our kids - little girls especially are trained how to properly wipe after washing without risking to contaminate their urethra (ie. never from back to front).
And I find it so appalling that all this is completely missing in the brit cultures.
My concern is that the bidet water is not clean enough. Toilet water is swimming with bacteria like Ecoli. If that water were to enter the urethra (sounds pretty possible to me) then a UTI would be started. Wipes or toilet paper would be more sanitary.
Another silly brit misconception about bidets.
It is the same sink water you use to wash your hands and to brush your teeth - why the bidet would be full of Ecoli?
Of course, like any other bathroom equipment, one needs to clean it all the time, and if your bidet's water has Ecoli, then so your sink's water.
And yes, women in the world use them during periods, they use it to clean their menstrual blood and never heard of Ecoli infections.
Take a look at that:
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Bidets are environmentally friendly and cost-efficient—and both of those labels are popular with American consumers. So why aren’t bidets more popular in the States?
According to sociologist Harvey Molotoch, author of Toilet: Public Restrooms and the Politics of Sharing, we got off on the wrong foot with bidets and just never recovered. He says we owe our overall aversion to bidets to our country’s forefathers: The British associated bidets with French prostitutes, and consequently thumbed their noses at their use. Over time, it became a habit to wipe instead of wash after using the bathroom, and it never went away.
According to sociologist Harvey Molotoch, author of Toilet: Public Restrooms and the Politics of Sharing, we got off on the wrong foot with bidets and just never recovered. He says we owe our overall aversion to bidets to our country’s forefathers: The British associated bidets with French prostitutes, and consequently thumbed their noses at their use. Over time, it became a habit to wipe instead of wash after using the bathroom, and it never went away.
https://www.yahoo.com/health/bidets-are ... 49767.html
And this:
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But marketing issues aside, urologist David M. Kaufman, MD, says using a bidet just might be healthier for us: “It’s definitely preferable to toilet paper” — for women, at least. While the wash basin has “little value” for healthy men, he says bidet use can have a big impact on the urinary health of women.
Here’s why: Bacteria, which are the source of urinary tract infections, are found within the vagina. Toilet paper only cleans the outside of the vagina, not the inside. “It is only through thorough irrigation with a bidet or hand-held shower stream that these bacteria can be washed out,” he says.
Here’s why: Bacteria, which are the source of urinary tract infections, are found within the vagina. Toilet paper only cleans the outside of the vagina, not the inside. “It is only through thorough irrigation with a bidet or hand-held shower stream that these bacteria can be washed out,” he says.
Seriously, Americans and Brits, it's time for you to adopt this civilized way of ass/genitals-cleaning.
And stop with the stupid excuses.I've also heard of woman using the bidet as a bathtub for their babies.
19 Jul 2015, 5:35 pm
SilverStar wrote:
And here I thought I was picky. 
You call it being picky!? I thought I was talking about not wanting to be mistreated or abused, or end up with some totally irreconcilable difference. Too many times in the past I have tolerated things I shouldn't have, and hoped it would get better or work itself out somehow, because I didn't recognize the warning signs.
19 Jul 2015, 8:16 pm
dianthus wrote:
SilverStar wrote:
And here I thought I was picky.
You call it being picky!? I thought I was talking about not wanting to be mistreated or abused, or end up with some totally irreconcilable difference. Too many times in the past I have tolerated things I shouldn't have, and hoped it would get better or work itself out somehow, because I didn't recognize the warning signs.
I didn't say there was anything wrong with it.
It's not being picky in the normal sense (like wanting a perfect model bf/gf, or something superficial like that), but more like being cautious and selective about potential partners. Trust me, I have been screwed over way too many times in the past, even by people that I trusted completely, so I am extremely cautious about meeting new people. So much so, that if I sense anything at all about them I don't like...they are pretty much done for.
19 Jul 2015, 10:25 pm
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20 Jul 2015, 2:50 am
20 Jul 2015, 3:23 am
SilverStar wrote:
dianthus wrote:
Thinking of what have been - or should have been - deal-breakers in the past:
Involved with someone else and wants to cheat on them with me
Threatens to commit suicide if we split up, very soon after we meet
Addiction problems, especially prescription, for instance passes out in my car after taking some pills
Has a Jekyll-Hyde personality
Has crazy-dangerous relatives hanging around (one ex's father was a Charles Manson follower)
Obsessed with a celebrity or similar figure, to the point of being delusional about them
Hits me or threatens to hit me
Has a vindictive streak and likes to take revenge on people or "prank" people
Constantly argues and/or finds fault with other people
Tends to polarize other people into taking sides for or against them in all matters
Acts very inconsiderate with "people who don't matter" (their words, not mine) like store clerks or waiters, or obviously disabled people
When driving, won't stop anywhere to let me eat or use the restroom, and/or acts really impatient and resentful about it when we finally do stop
Insults or ridicules me then says it was a "joke"
Puts down my beliefs, interests, taste in music, clothing, etc.
Puts pressure on me to quit my job, change my hair color, etc.
Doesn't like cats, doesn't like MY cats, or my cats don't like him
Has a disdainful attitude towards Southerners, Southern accents, country folk, hillbillies, etc.
Vegetarian or vegan - I respect that, but my diet is largely meat, and that is one difference that is very hard to reconcile.
And most importantly...
Brainwashed by anyone (government, media, religion, family, an ex, whoever) to the point of being unable to question or disagree with what they have been told.
Other highly probable dealbreakers for me:
Smokes or chews tobacco
Does drugs, other than occasional MJ
Drinks to the point of getting a buzz or getting drunk
Doesn't bathe at least once a day
Doesn't have an appreciation for classical music, foreign films or art films
Absolutely certain dealbreakers:
Wants children
Wants a poly relationship, or doesn't believe in monogamy
Doesn't have, doesn't understand, or doesn't believe in psychic experiences
Involved with someone else and wants to cheat on them with me
Threatens to commit suicide if we split up, very soon after we meet
Addiction problems, especially prescription, for instance passes out in my car after taking some pills
Has a Jekyll-Hyde personality
Has crazy-dangerous relatives hanging around (one ex's father was a Charles Manson follower)
Obsessed with a celebrity or similar figure, to the point of being delusional about them
Hits me or threatens to hit me
Has a vindictive streak and likes to take revenge on people or "prank" people
Constantly argues and/or finds fault with other people
Tends to polarize other people into taking sides for or against them in all matters
Acts very inconsiderate with "people who don't matter" (their words, not mine) like store clerks or waiters, or obviously disabled people
When driving, won't stop anywhere to let me eat or use the restroom, and/or acts really impatient and resentful about it when we finally do stop
Insults or ridicules me then says it was a "joke"
Puts down my beliefs, interests, taste in music, clothing, etc.
Puts pressure on me to quit my job, change my hair color, etc.
Doesn't like cats, doesn't like MY cats, or my cats don't like him
Has a disdainful attitude towards Southerners, Southern accents, country folk, hillbillies, etc.
Vegetarian or vegan - I respect that, but my diet is largely meat, and that is one difference that is very hard to reconcile.
And most importantly...
Brainwashed by anyone (government, media, religion, family, an ex, whoever) to the point of being unable to question or disagree with what they have been told.
Other highly probable dealbreakers for me:
Smokes or chews tobacco
Does drugs, other than occasional MJ
Drinks to the point of getting a buzz or getting drunk
Doesn't bathe at least once a day
Doesn't have an appreciation for classical music, foreign films or art films
Absolutely certain dealbreakers:
Wants children
Wants a poly relationship, or doesn't believe in monogamy
Doesn't have, doesn't understand, or doesn't believe in psychic experiences
And here I thought I was picky.
I agree with you on most of those things, though I do like to joke around and tease people, but it's all in good fun. There are some lines that you shouldn't cross though. As far as stopping to use the restroom goes, I had an ex that drank way too much coffee, etc, and then had to stop and pee every 5 min when we were on the road, so it can get pretty frustrating at times. I don't think it was right to totally not stop at all though.
Glad you can use the list
There are quite a few good men out there but it helps to be self-aware and know what to look fore. I found a new and better man, I think he has quite a few AS traits but he is not on the spectrum. It meant that I had to look for something quite different as to what I use to, but that paid off
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