Oh girls have it so much worse....
Sweetleaf wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
Crazyfool wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
Crazyfool wrote:
life is just tough for an aspie
Actually it's hard for everyone.
Thank you for reiterating my point
I mean it's hard also for people who are not Aspergian.
Certain things are harder for people with aspergers, than they are for people without aspergers.
People without Asperger can have other problems too. I hate how people in this forum seem to divite the world in Aspegians and NTs.
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So guys have trouble picking up a date....girls with their easy picking up of dates are more prone to rape, abuse, being taken advantage of for sex ect. all wonderful things the self identified 'forever alones' should be totally jealous of. Oh yeah geting unsolicitated hits on you from guys twice your age who only want sex is great....let me tell you, so much better than being single not
I mean really what do you guys think it is we chicks get so easily, and as if you can go out just dressed in normal casual comfy dress and get a date.....no women are expected to have make up on, wear an outfit that compliments their figure, or use weird undergarmet items to make your body appear more appealing as in the hour glass shape. Oh and its rude for a women to get offended by some street a** saying 'hey baby you're hot' when they are just trying to go about their buisiness......oh yes women have it so f*****g easy compared to men in all circumstances ever.
I mean really what do you guys think it is we chicks get so easily, and as if you can go out just dressed in normal casual comfy dress and get a date.....no women are expected to have make up on, wear an outfit that compliments their figure, or use weird undergarmet items to make your body appear more appealing as in the hour glass shape. Oh and its rude for a women to get offended by some street a** saying 'hey baby you're hot' when they are just trying to go about their buisiness......oh yes women have it so f*****g easy compared to men in all circumstances ever.
This "poor me" looks exactly like a romantic gambit to find a "knight in shinning armor."
Good luck, keep your chin up because that gambit usually does work.
Another one misses the satire....lol.
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Peacesells wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
Crazyfool wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
Crazyfool wrote:
life is just tough for an aspie
Actually it's hard for everyone.
Thank you for reiterating my point
I mean it's hard also for people who are not Aspergian.
Certain things are harder for people with aspergers, than they are for people without aspergers.
People without Asperger can have other problems too. I hate how people in this forum seem to divite the world in Aspegians and NTs.
Of course people without aspergers can have other problems to, either way your average neurotypical does not struggle in the same ways your average person with aspergers does. I hate how people act like having a condition does not create any more difficulties for that person than a person without that condition.
I mean for instance it would be like like if I am talking to someone without PTSD and we conclude due to my PTSD I have an exaggerated startle response I can't control...then a loud noise goes off I jump and freeze up for like a minute and they tell me 'you're PTSD is no excuse for that kind of behavior' totally ignoring that the condition I have causes that difficulty that they don't experience. Seems like the same kind of logic is applied when people say things like 'everyone struggles' as a response to discussion of a specific struggle a certain group or individual has.
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What is the difference between a gold digger and someone who wants someone who is financially stable?
People will be called a gold digger for wanting a partner that is financially stable.
People will be called a gold digger for wanting a partner that is financially stable.
A gold digger will get with a man they don't really care much for or even like by putting on a big act that they do, in order to take advantage of them financially. Much of the time they cheat on the side because they're with their S.O for money rather than anything else. A person who desires a financially stable individual is still likely going to go for one they really want to be with, they won't go seeking out someone more well off or whatever to get with to depend on. Much of the time the person desiring someone financially stable is financially stable them-self and wanting to maybe get married and have kids in the next few years...rather than having someone else they have to support financially to. Though some people are open to the idea of a stay at home dad, where the mom is making most of the income whilst the dad stays home with the kid. Of course being a stay at home mom or dad, is becoming less and less possible because more often than not you need two people bringing in income to afford the cost of living.
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I don't think you understand what underwires in bras are actually for. They are not to make breast look better, so that men will find us attractive. Underwires are for support, to stop your boobs bouncing around and getting in the way. It's actually not very comfortable to walk around without good support for your breasts.
I cannot stand underwires....I just use the cloth bras since they provide enough support, my boobs are also rather small and I am pretty skinny so underwire is probably just too much for me. I can see how it would be useful for people with much bigger boobs to have the extra support from the under-wire.
Guys might have a dangling extra limb, well us females have bouncy blobs on our chests.
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sly279 wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
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then why can't a guy who makes less move in with her and share expenses? they can't but women wont let them because they say the guy would be mooching off them. i only turned what women say around back at them.
That is what you think, and it doesn't mean that is true. Most people are ok with a responsible person who can take care of himself. Most people who are so-so financially can still find gfs though because they are decent socially and can look interesting (even most aspies or fatties), but people like us are not able.
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well my family is my roomates. safer then strangers and helps them out.
Dude don't play dumb with me and stop being so self-indulgent, you know what I mean.
I'm not playing dumb. why can't family be roomates? they pay their half I pay my half. its the same as any other roomate situation.
not from any of the women I've seen. they don't want to talk to any guy who doesnt' make enough.
Seen or interacted with? granted there are many women like that...some of them though don't seem fully aware of it, like they are conditioned to think a guy has to make a lot of money to be appealing. Like the 'Im not shallow' people who would likely break up with their boyfriend/S.O if they slip into some money/financial hardship, but they wouldn't go and say 'I only accept guys who make enough' but when it comes down to it that is what it is. I certainly don't like that mentality. Though I would say most males aren't looking for poor women on welfare to date either but due to gender role crap...I think guys certainly get more judgement for things like that than women.
there's a vast difference between refusing to date any guy who isn't wealthy versus refusing to date any guy who isn't financially stable. The latter has more to do with whether a man is responsible/disciplined enough to live within his means.
I don't necessarily think guys get more judgement than girls regarding how much they earn in GENERAL... but there are tons of guys on this forum who have a HUGE issue with the fact that women won't date them because they are objectively dead broke, unemployed and/or are still living with mummy and daddy. Those are legit deal breakers for a not insignificant fraction of adult women, myself included.
Or they hate all fun -- museums, galleries, theatre, hiking, traveling, reading, local festivals, local sports teams, comic books, pub trivia -- and don't get how sitting in their room 99% of the time, refusing to engage in any outside the home activities dooms them to no social life!
Sweetleaf wrote:
Of course people without aspergers can have other problems to, either way your average neurotypical does not struggle in the same ways your average person with aspergers does. I hate how people act like having a condition does not create any more difficulties for that person than a person without that condition.
I mean for instance it would be like like if I am talking to someone without PTSD and we conclude due to my PTSD I have an exaggerated startle response I can't control...then a loud noise goes off I jump and freeze up for like a minute and they tell me 'you're PTSD is no excuse for that kind of behavior' totally ignoring that the condition I have causes that difficulty that they don't experience. Seems like the same kind of logic is applied when people say things like 'everyone struggles' as a response to discussion of a specific struggle a certain group or individual has.
I mean for instance it would be like like if I am talking to someone without PTSD and we conclude due to my PTSD I have an exaggerated startle response I can't control...then a loud noise goes off I jump and freeze up for like a minute and they tell me 'you're PTSD is no excuse for that kind of behavior' totally ignoring that the condition I have causes that difficulty that they don't experience. Seems like the same kind of logic is applied when people say things like 'everyone struggles' as a response to discussion of a specific struggle a certain group or individual has.
Well yes harder than the average neurotypical, maybe. I just don't see why we have to say that "life is difficult for people with Aspergers", when it is for everyone.
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Crazyfool wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
So guys have trouble picking up a date....girls with their easy picking up of dates are more prone to rape, abuse, being taken advantage of for sex ect. all wonderful things the self identified 'forever alones' should be totally jealous of. Oh yeah geting unsolicitated hits on you from guys twice your age who only want sex is great....let me tell you, so much better than being single not
I mean really what do you guys think it is we chicks get so easily, and as if you can go out just dressed in normal casual comfy dress and get a date.....no women are expected to have make up on, wear an outfit that compliments their figure, or use weird undergarmet items to make your body appear more appealing as in the hour glass shape. Oh and its rude for a women to get offended by some street a** saying 'hey baby you're hot' when they are just trying to go about their buisiness......oh yes women have it so f*****g easy compared to men in all circumstances ever.
I mean really what do you guys think it is we chicks get so easily, and as if you can go out just dressed in normal casual comfy dress and get a date.....no women are expected to have make up on, wear an outfit that compliments their figure, or use weird undergarmet items to make your body appear more appealing as in the hour glass shape. Oh and its rude for a women to get offended by some street a** saying 'hey baby you're hot' when they are just trying to go about their buisiness......oh yes women have it so f*****g easy compared to men in all circumstances ever.
Ahh girls these days just think we got it so good, like we enjoy having an extra limb dangleling between our legs, balls sticking to my legs on the hot humid days...Like we can just go out and pick up girls with out being having some sense of being macho, like we think it's fun having to compete to get with a girl...Or how we gotta make the women feel so precious like there couldn't be anything more important then her in the world....ya it's so easy to be a guy lol
Cry me a river, being a girl or a guy doesn't make anything easy or hard...life is just tough for an aspie whether you're a dude or a dudette...that's up to us say what we need from the world to help change that. Don't make this into some BS gender war that it isn't...SMH
Most males I know seem to enjoy their extra limb dangling there....the other stuff I can see being obnoxious/difficult. I was however being satirical, I don't really think girls have it 'harder' i think how difficult or easy things are for someone more depends on the individual than what sex they are. That was supposed to be the point of the thread I was making a counter thread to all the 'guys have it harder' ones. Also was trying to point out females on the spectrum do have greater difficulty dating/forming relationships than neurotypical females. Granted I've written better satirical posts....my initial point seems to have come off as a bit unclear.
Oh I gotcha, I thought it was just another one of those "guys have it so easy" threads...Honestly in my opinion all of the "guy's have it so (blank)" or "girls have it so (blank)" threads are extremely irritating. Just a bunch of whining to be honest.
Sweetleaf wrote:
1401b wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
So guys have trouble picking up a date....girls with their easy picking up of dates are more prone to rape, abuse, being taken advantage of for sex ect. all wonderful things the self identified 'forever alones' should be totally jealous of. Oh yeah geting unsolicitated hits on you from guys twice your age who only want sex is great....let me tell you, so much better than being single not
I mean really what do you guys think it is we chicks get so easily, and as if you can go out just dressed in normal casual comfy dress and get a date.....no women are expected to have make up on, wear an outfit that compliments their figure, or use weird undergarmet items to make your body appear more appealing as in the hour glass shape. Oh and its rude for a women to get offended by some street a** saying 'hey baby you're hot' when they are just trying to go about their buisiness......oh yes women have it so f*****g easy compared to men in all circumstances ever.
I mean really what do you guys think it is we chicks get so easily, and as if you can go out just dressed in normal casual comfy dress and get a date.....no women are expected to have make up on, wear an outfit that compliments their figure, or use weird undergarmet items to make your body appear more appealing as in the hour glass shape. Oh and its rude for a women to get offended by some street a** saying 'hey baby you're hot' when they are just trying to go about their buisiness......oh yes women have it so f*****g easy compared to men in all circumstances ever.
This "poor me" looks exactly like a romantic gambit to find a "knight in shinning armor."
Good luck, keep your chin up because that gambit usually does work.
Another one misses the satire....lol.
I don't think anyone is missing anything... you're being sarcistic about "how grande it is to be a female"...I get that but it just sounds like you're whining
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there's a vast difference between refusing to date any guy who isn't wealthy versus refusing to date any guy who isn't financially stable. The latter has more to do with whether a man is responsible/disciplined enough to live within his means.
I don't necessarily think guys get more judgement than girls regarding how much they earn in GENERAL... but there are tons of guys on this forum who have a HUGE issue with the fact that women won't date them because they are objectively dead broke, unemployed and/or are still living with mummy and daddy. Those are legit deal breakers for a not insignificant fraction of adult women, myself included.
Or they hate all fun -- museums, galleries, theatre, hiking, traveling, reading, local festivals, local sports teams, comic books, pub trivia -- and don't get how sitting in their room 99% of the time, refusing to engage in any outside the home activities dooms them to no social life!
Are you financially stable? If you are then I can understand that you'd want your prospective date be as well, but if you are a women with no job and/or still living at home yourself, but say that is a deal breaker if a guy has the same circumstances, I think you what I like to call a gold digger. You're probably just looking for some guy to take care of you, which I think is a load of sh!t I would never ever consider dating a women like that.
Sweetleaf wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
sly279 wrote:
then why can't a guy who makes less move in with her and share expenses? they can't but women wont let them because they say the guy would be mooching off them. i only turned what women say around back at them.
That is what you think, and it doesn't mean that is true. Most people are ok with a responsible person who can take care of himself. Most people who are so-so financially can still find gfs though because they are decent socially and can look interesting (even most aspies or fatties), but people like us are not able.
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well my family is my roomates. safer then strangers and helps them out.
Dude don't play dumb with me and stop being so self-indulgent, you know what I mean.
I'm not playing dumb. why can't family be roomates? they pay their half I pay my half. its the same as any other roomate situation.
not from any of the women I've seen. they don't want to talk to any guy who doesnt' make enough.
Seen or interacted with? granted there are many women like that...some of them though don't seem fully aware of it, like they are conditioned to think a guy has to make a lot of money to be appealing. Like the 'Im not shallow' people who would likely break up with their boyfriend/S.O if they slip into some money/financial hardship, but they wouldn't go and say 'I only accept guys who make enough' but when it comes down to it that is what it is. I certainly don't like that mentality. Though I would say most males aren't looking for poor women on welfare to date either but due to gender role crap...I think guys certainly get more judgement for things like that than women.
I think a lot of guys care more about how a woman's face looks then how much she makes. mean look i see poor women demanding and sometimes getting well off guys. there must be a reason super poor women think they are able to demand guys who are way above them. and then some like 1/3 or more get them.
lots of well off or even rich guys date poor or even never had a job women.
though yes there are men from upper class who their families(usually the mom) would object to them dating a poor woman due to how it would effect their social status. but i don't care about them I deal more with the poor to mid middle class. and to those men who make enough to provide for a whole family they are find dating poor women mean they want her to just stay home and care for the kids why they are the manly provider type.
I have no doubt that lots of men do in fact care if women make more then them. that's how it was for so very long they are stuck in that mindset. I think its changing. just slowly. i hope one day all this will be gone.
now do they purposely look for poor women probably not. but if you don't' mention it and are pretty they won't ask. and by the time they find out the'll like you and it won't matter especially if they the provider manly types.
though i've seen thousands and thousands and thousands of profiles and ads. not one single woman says they are unemployed. they all have job or jobs and are super busy with thier life or in college. so either some are just lying or poor women don't' try to date. idk.
depressing though as it seems all women are super successful also the whole just find one on your level is stupid as all of them seem to be above me.
maybe there needs to be a free poor people dating site or free SSI dating site. they sure a bunch of them would still prefer to date up with guys.
as i said it hink this is very very slowly changing and that in 200 years people will all be equal i hope.
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Sweetleaf wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
sly279 wrote:
then why can't a guy who makes less move in with her and share expenses? they can't but women wont let them because they say the guy would be mooching off them. i only turned what women say around back at them.
That is what you think, and it doesn't mean that is true. Most people are ok with a responsible person who can take care of himself. Most people who are so-so financially can still find gfs though because they are decent socially and can look interesting (even most aspies or fatties), but people like us are not able.
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well my family is my roomates. safer then strangers and helps them out.
Dude don't play dumb with me and stop being so self-indulgent, you know what I mean.
I'm not playing dumb. why can't family be roomates? they pay their half I pay my half. its the same as any other roomate situation.
not from any of the women I've seen. they don't want to talk to any guy who doesnt' make enough.
Seen or interacted with? granted there are many women like that...some of them though don't seem fully aware of it, like they are conditioned to think a guy has to make a lot of money to be appealing. Like the 'Im not shallow' people who would likely break up with their boyfriend/S.O if they slip into some money/financial hardship, but they wouldn't go and say 'I only accept guys who make enough' but when it comes down to it that is what it is. I certainly don't like that mentality. Though I would say most males aren't looking for poor women on welfare to date either but due to gender role crap...I think guys certainly get more judgement for things like that than women.
there's a vast difference between refusing to date any guy who isn't wealthy versus refusing to date any guy who isn't financially stable. The latter has more to do with whether a man is responsible/disciplined enough to live within his means.
I don't necessarily think guys get more judgement than girls regarding how much they earn in GENERAL... but there are tons of guys on this forum who have a HUGE issue with the fact that women won't date them because they are objectively dead broke, unemployed and/or are still living with mummy and daddy. Those are legit deal breakers for a not insignificant fraction of adult women, myself included.
you mean um....... living off his means.
Or they hate all fun -- museums, galleries, theatre, hiking, traveling, reading, local festivals, local sports teams, comic books, pub trivia -- and don't get how sitting in their room 99% of the time, refusing to engage in any outside the home activities dooms them to no social life!
so you judge financially stable off of how much a guy makes. so shut up. the only way you could do it is by how much they make. otherwise you'd have to spend time getting to know the guy first to find out if he lifers off what he makes.
that would take time so women like you instead look at their income and reject them based off that. well that's not refusing someone who spends more then they make which would not be stable. if a guy made 50 dollars a month but lived off of that hes stable.
you're so two faced you superficial but don't want to admit it as you want people to think you're so great and nice.
reading, comic books, sports, are things one does sitting in theory room most the time. lol.
you're so two faced. you say one thing but mean and act differently.
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PillowSpider wrote:
there's a vast difference between refusing to date any guy who isn't wealthy versus refusing to date any guy who isn't financially stable. The latter has more to do with whether a man is responsible/disciplined enough to live within his means.
I don't necessarily think guys get more judgement than girls regarding how much they earn in GENERAL... but there are tons of guys on this forum who have a HUGE issue with the fact that women won't date them because they are objectively dead broke, unemployed and/or are still living with mummy and daddy. Those are legit deal breakers for a not insignificant fraction of adult women, myself included.
Or they hate all fun -- museums, galleries, theatre, hiking, traveling, reading, local festivals, local sports teams, comic books, pub trivia -- and don't get how sitting in their room 99% of the time, refusing to engage in any outside the home activities dooms them to no social life!
Are you financially stable? If you are then I can understand that you'd want your prospective date be as well, but if you are a women with no job and/or still living at home yourself, but say that is a deal breaker if a guy has the same circumstances, I think you what I like to call a gold digger. You're probably just looking for some guy to take care of you, which I think is a load of sh!t I would never ever consider dating a women like that.
see like i said in my above post financially stable is not a set standard. its just a matter of living off what you make. ie not spending more then you can afford. which most middle class people who people deem to be financially stable off of what their income is do not od. they spend more then they can afford. they buy cars, houses, boats, ATVS etc that they can't afford and make payments. they have credit debt they rotate around. yet people say look he makes 4k a month ies stable. but nope they are house of cards just waiting for one slip to fall down.
look how many financially stable people lost their homes.look at all the empty homes banks own that sit empty. cars taken back. its so funny to me. that those people are deemed financially stable meanwhile I don't buy stuff i can't afford and i'm deemed not financially stable.
she says guys have to make ____ much to be stable. but that goes against her definition of financially stable.
she wants a guy with high income she doesn't care if hes financially stable or not. but she doesn't want to look bad.
lots of poor people are financially stable. probably way more then middle class people who are again a house of cards waiting to fall down.
middle class people ask you're self this, if tomorrow you lost your job and all the money in your bank. will you still have a car and home in 30 days? or will the bank forclose when you fail to make payments the the dealer take your 50k care you can't afofrd back.
seemed like ever time i went to a certain area there were brand new mustangs and just about each time one was being repossessed. lol
sly279 wrote:
Crazyfool wrote:
PillowSpider wrote:
there's a vast difference between refusing to date any guy who isn't wealthy versus refusing to date any guy who isn't financially stable. The latter has more to do with whether a man is responsible/disciplined enough to live within his means.
I don't necessarily think guys get more judgement than girls regarding how much they earn in GENERAL... but there are tons of guys on this forum who have a HUGE issue with the fact that women won't date them because they are objectively dead broke, unemployed and/or are still living with mummy and daddy. Those are legit deal breakers for a not insignificant fraction of adult women, myself included.
Or they hate all fun -- museums, galleries, theatre, hiking, traveling, reading, local festivals, local sports teams, comic books, pub trivia -- and don't get how sitting in their room 99% of the time, refusing to engage in any outside the home activities dooms them to no social life!
Are you financially stable? If you are then I can understand that you'd want your prospective date be as well, but if you are a women with no job and/or still living at home yourself, but say that is a deal breaker if a guy has the same circumstances, I think you what I like to call a gold digger. You're probably just looking for some guy to take care of you, which I think is a load of sh!t I would never ever consider dating a women like that.
see like i said in my above post financially stable is not a set standard. its just a matter of living off what you make. ie not spending more then you can afford. which most middle class people who people deem to be financially stable off of what their income is do not od. they spend more then they can afford. they buy cars, houses, boats, ATVS etc that they can't afford and make payments. they have credit debt they rotate around. yet people say look he makes 4k a month ies stable. but nope they are house of cards just waiting for one slip to fall down.
look how many financially stable people lost their homes.look at all the empty homes banks own that sit empty. cars taken back. its so funny to me. that those people are deemed financially stable meanwhile I don't buy stuff i can't afford and i'm deemed not financially stable.
she says guys have to make ____ much to be stable. but that goes against her definition of financially stable.
she wants a guy with high income she doesn't care if hes financially stable or not. but she doesn't want to look bad.
lots of poor people are financially stable. probably way more then middle class people who are again a house of cards waiting to fall down.
middle class people ask you're self this, if tomorrow you lost your job and all the money in your bank. will you still have a car and home in 30 days? or will the bank forclose when you fail to make payments the the dealer take your 50k care you can't afofrd back.
seemed like ever time i went to a certain area there were brand new mustangs and just about each time one was being repossessed. lol
The answer is simple if she has a prerequisite for you to have money or be well off then she can bite the dust and kiss my ass. If shes not willing to take me as I come and work through the tough times together, then she aint worth my time. I've got lots of potential both as a partner and as an employee and if she can't see that I'm worth taking the chance unless I've got everything in place then she's aint even worth a fukk. I don't go shopping around for girls that have jobs and have their whole life and future in place....ever! I'm not that shallow and there's plenty of girls out there that aren't either so fukk any chick like that...pass!
Crazyfool wrote:
PillowSpider wrote:
there's a vast difference between refusing to date any guy who isn't wealthy versus refusing to date any guy who isn't financially stable. The latter has more to do with whether a man is responsible/disciplined enough to live within his means.
I don't necessarily think guys get more judgement than girls regarding how much they earn in GENERAL... but there are tons of guys on this forum who have a HUGE issue with the fact that women won't date them because they are objectively dead broke, unemployed and/or are still living with mummy and daddy. Those are legit deal breakers for a not insignificant fraction of adult women, myself included.
Or they hate all fun -- museums, galleries, theatre, hiking, traveling, reading, local festivals, local sports teams, comic books, pub trivia -- and don't get how sitting in their room 99% of the time, refusing to engage in any outside the home activities dooms them to no social life!
Are you financially stable? If you are then I can understand that you'd want your prospective date be as well, but if you are a women with no job and/or still living at home yourself, but say that is a deal breaker if a guy has the same circumstances, I think you what I like to call a gold digger. You're probably just looking for some guy to take care of you, which I think is a load of sh!t I would never ever consider dating a women like that.
Yes, of course I'm financially stable. Haven't lived at home since I was 17, no debt courtesy of scholarships for college and grad school, own my own home, have a job that pays very well, thankyouverymuch. I do not need a man to take care of me financially and am emphatically NOT a golddigger.
(My relationship philosophy is that it's unreasonable to *expect* anything of a partner that I'm unwilling to do myself).
Also, an individual who has a well-paying job but also tons of unsecured debt and zip in the way of an emergency fund cannot be considered "financially stable" -- they're one accident or layoff or illness away from financial ruin. Stability is no/minimal/ manageable debt (and ideally no unsecured debt beyond student loans), an emergency fund (ideally 3-6 mos living expenses or working towards that) and really good credit. Good credit is a proxy for impulse control. Lack of impulse control tends to manifest as bad behavior (cheating, unsecured debt, hair trigger temper, etc).
There are limited exceptions to this -- pretty much all brand new grads are one illness/injury/layoff from financial ruin, having $0 emergency fund immediately after having spent it on an emergency is normal, tons of debt & accompanying bad credit due to a prolonged illness that drained the emergency fund and whatnot.
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