pof is another pathetic site.

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Here's my breakdown of the main dating sites/apps.

POF - sent over 100 messages, mostly to girls in my looks league. Didn't get a single response.

Okcupid - able to get the odd date (with a lot of effort), but none of them ever want to see me again

Tinder - didn't get a single match (except for a morbidly obese girl), no matter how many times I swiped or updated my profile pics

I'm ripped and decent looking btw. Seems you need to look like an international male model get ANYTHING.

well, dating sites favor the girls, what can I say.

Or the ability to write a decent profile, respond in an engaging manner and/or message girls you have more in common with than appearance.

My criteria for dating sites is based on its ads. If there are attractive women in it, I know it's a scam.

Here's my thinking. Any dating site catering to heterosexuals is going to have more men than women, probably by a substantial multiple. If the owners are running with the goal of actually helping people find relationships, they'd be spending all their ad dollars on getting more women to sign up.

If, on the other hand, all they want is to prey on men's desperation, and up-sell as many as possible into paid accounts. You put pictures of female models in your ads and carefully never tell anyone the ratio. Offer extra services for the up-sell that convinces the guys that they're failures will somehow be fixed by going to a paid status.

Net effect: Almost no one succeeds. Men are frustrated. Women are overwhelmed and leave. You make a lot of money.

I'd love to create a sight that openly states the M/F ratio in your area, and automatically adjusts the membership rate to keep it as close to 1/1 as possible. Maybe I'll have the time some day.

Something like 1/5 to 1/3 of people meet their significant other online these days, including plenty of heterosexual people who get married. Statistically, there are lots of men who do find female partners online. If you think the upsells are a ripoff, stick to the free sites.

If you've had your profile posted for ages, taking it down and taking a 3-6 month break from online dating can often work wonders... as the proverbial pond will have time to replenish. It also stops you getting burned out on dating. When you do put your (free) profile back up, revamp it and add some new photos.

Dating sites publishing their male-female ACTIVE user stats is a good idea... but I disagree with the 1:1 ratio requirement. The more ACTIVE users there are, the better the odds of everyone finding a partner get.

I also think a lot of the profiles on any site are from not-so-active daters -- like, they'll keep the profile public, half heartedly log in every week or month or so but only rarely send or respond to messages.

Online doesn't only mean dating sites tho does it, I imagine most people that meet people "online" probably mean facebook or some other social networking site or any number or places before dating sites.

POF is a bait site really. Any time a site starts sending you email about 'so many people 'liked' you but you have to pay to see who it was' it's a scam. Most of the times those 'likes' are the company itself 'pinging' the client base that has been inactive for a month or so to bring them back and try to lure them to pay.

OKC is the only site I've actually met and talked to women. Of course, zero luck but still the site is not a scam. No need to pay for their service either.

Yeah I noticed that. Thanks! I was wondering why I got liked 7 times.

I've had plenty of dates from both POF + OKC, and met my current boyfriend on POF, using only the free part. Ditto the boyfriend , also using only free part.

If you're not paying for premium features, I don't see how either POF or OKC could scam anyone.

A girl who goes on one date with an OKC/POF/any guy and "disappears" doesn't make her a liar. It makes her a girl who didn't like you enough to warrant a second date... hardly the crime of the century!

That's lamp post logic. Even if 100% of newly involved couples met online, it doesn't tell you the number who tried and failed.

I still maintain a site that tries to keep an even ratio is one that's clearly trying to help its patrons.

The women don't get spammed in their first hour online. The men have a chance of being seen in the crowd.

I think you're thinking of ashleymadison. There were some real women, but a lot of them were fake accounts, or dead accounts that were taken over to make it look like they were still active.

Okc does that too heck they did it first, pof copied them. I remember when both started doing the whole you have to pay to see who likes you. More recent they copied tinder so their system of liking people is the same. Swipe right to like left to dislike really more impersonal then their old system was.

That was my idea with getting on one....basically just to put myself out there in case someone took a liking or interest to what they saw. Its much harder for me to 'put myself out there' IRL so figured it was worth a shot. But I never really saw the dating site as like the end all be all of finding a relationship just figured there was a chance something might come out of it.

I met my 3 girlfriends on forums. The 2nd & current were on this one.

Yes those are important things....I mean I could be wrong but with my profile I really only responded to messages where the guy tried striking up conversation with me and talked about maybe something in common or just some detail about themselves. The short 'hey your cute' or 'hey whats up/hows it going' type ones i mostly didn't bother with cause for one don't really know what to respond to those when it comes from someone I've never met...also the whole point for me meeting someone online is to determine if we want to meet in person I don't want to play a bunch of small talk games over the internet.

But yeah I was certainly really only intrested in guys where i could see in their message or from their profile we had interests and such in common....too me that was even more important than physical looks I mean yeah if an attractive guy messeged me and I had nothing in common I could care less how attractive they are, much rather talk to someone I have something in common with who doesn't fit my pre-determined image of what an attractive male looks like.

You fail to factor in the homosexual population though, at least on OKcupid there is the option to set your profile to homosexual...in which case you'd be looking for people of the same sex. if there is a 1:1 ratio for males and females that is assuming one female for every male on the site and vice versa.....a gay population on the site could certainly skew that as well.