How do I kill my love for someone?

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12 Dec 2015, 6:08 am

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I know some of you people think I'm sick in the head but I cannot stop to think about this girl who was in my class two years ago. I asked her out at the time online but she only replied 5-6 months later with a simple "No." I was really pissed at her for a while but then my anger came to dust.

I check her facebook page almost daily to check if she has new pictures; She's so beautiful. But the problem is I'm out of her "social cast". Because she's pretty, she gets all the attention from douchebags, normal guys and others alike. Why would she like someone like me? I'm skinny as a holocaust survivor don't know how to manipulate girls like every other guy does.

How do I stop to love her?



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12 Dec 2015, 6:29 am

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Are you supposed to believe physical beauty is all that matters before you get "older"? That's yet another thing I find odd about normal people. I never thought beauty was the most important quality in anybody. In fact, this is one of the reasons I felt oh so much mature than my peers as a teenager, but now I think this was an illusion caused by my inability to fathom the complexity of a normal, healthy, non-autistic human mind. I was much too quick to dismiss beauty and its own complexity. There must be a reason I've never found attractive any woman I perceived as mean-spirited or a potential bully, even when I was aware social standards dictated I should, and I definitely should desire them much more than the nerdy or otherwise presumably unremarkable types I really liked.

As a result, I'm still discovering bits and pieces of what constitutes female beauty and getting fascinated by it all the time, in a "this is a small sample of what you'd have gotten to enjoy when you were young if only you'd been worthy" fashion.


What a strange post. BTW, what is attractive does not differ based on neurotype, rather both neurodiverse and neurotypical guys of all ages prefer women around 20. But then the neurotypical mind has it's own judgement what types of women are potential mates, and that differs from how the neurodiverse mind works. Still, as a neurodiverse there is no reason why you should try to learn the neurotypical way of finding mates. That would make absolutely no sense at all.



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12 Dec 2015, 2:59 pm

You can't force it really, it just takes time. Keep yourself as busy as possible and don't spend any time looking at her facebook. As long as you keep her out of your mind the feelings will begin to fade.



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13 Dec 2015, 7:35 am

Some people really fall for others they can't have. I hear it's sometimes why women are attracted to men already in relationships, though that's obviously not always the case.

Getting rid of your infatuation? My approach would be to logically, systematically destroy any reason as to why I should continue this infatuation. For example, I showed my interest, she explicitly said she wasn't interested. That's a large reason to stop being infatuated. Going off of this, I would tell myself, whenever the feeling flared up again, that there is not any hope for this to work because she is not interested.

Failing that, try and think of behaviors of hers that wouldn't work in certain situations. She showed up late to class? Would you trust her to go on a trip with you? Would she be late picking your kids up from school a lot? Things like that. Let the possible little things get to you.

Either way, good luck.


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13 Dec 2015, 8:44 am

You have to distract yourself and find someone new. This girl attracts those jerk like types because maybe she likes them? And if that is the case then that is her problem and her type is distasteful. Stop looking at her Facebook page. This is actually a positive to not having social media. The process of getting over someone may be quicker.



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13 Dec 2015, 9:08 am

Immerse yourself in your interests.



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14 Dec 2015, 12:30 am

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DailyPoutine1 wrote:
Even if I started to right now, I haven't intentionally talked to any in the four last years. I don't think I can change how I am.


*sigh*

At 15, you are still changing, and very rapidly at that. The whole YOU is changing, and you are in for even more rapid change and internal chaos in the upcoming decade, when much of your development will happen. Where you are at now does not dictate where you will be in your mid-twenties, when your growth and neurological development will reach a stability you have yet to experience in your young life.

What you can do, now, to help shape those changes more to your liking, is change your source of inputs, change how you talk about yourself, and change your narrative (how you explain and describe incidents in your life).

Look back at every single event in your life that you now see as evidence of failure, and look for the success embedded within it, that you currently are in the habit of dismissing or ignoring.

For example:

You had a heart-stoppingly bad crush on a beautiful, popular girl in your school, and you asked her out instead of allowing your fear of rejection to stop you. Your current interpretation of this event is focused entirely on the end result (she turned you down) and thus you are missing a key element of the experience, which is that you manned up and risked rejection in order to achieve a goal. You would be shocked to discover how common it is to chicken out and do the opposite, at *any* stage of development. Fully grown, successful adults struggle with this, and it is many times harder for adolescents, but you went ahead and did it.

I could go on, and on, and on, because in every event you have reported as a failure, or as evidence that you're doomed to a life of losing, I see courage, insight, and resilience.

And you know what? That goes for so many others here, who I see struggling because they interpret each undesired outcome as proof that they are a failure, without looking into the experience further to see where they made progress.


Quoted for absolute truth, this needs to be repeated.

As for more practical advice, I went through something similar in college. In my head it became a downward spiral of "I care about this person but it's not reciprocal" and "I'm unlovable because of AS". For a while I became desperate, asking out any single girls I could find. In hindsight one of them actually said yes but I was not right in the head and took it as something done out of pity. Eventually I became so bitter that I burned most of my bridges and went full blown MGTOW for a while.

What really helped was making new friends and getting away from situations that reminded me of that. After about a year or so I had more or less forgotten what she looked like, much less anything I felt for her in particular. The other half... took longer, but the last bit of working my way out of that rut involved joining this site here. It's a slow, hard path, but you'll be stronger for it. Also if you're feeling really down on yourself I would strongly urge you to go marathon Gurren Lagann if you haven't seen it... watching that with my newer friends had started the whole turnaround.

So, TL;DR do everything you can to not see this girl (yes, including pictures) or even think about romance for a while. Try and make some friends and have fun. And hey, you're 15, right? You'll be graduating high school in a year or two, possibly going off to college. If you do go to college, especially if you live in dorms, there will be people your age everywhere, easily within walking distance, that you will have some things in common with, so it's quite easy to make some very close friendships. Roughly half of these people will be female, and especially once they're past freshman year they'll be more mature anyway.



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14 Dec 2015, 10:47 am

I hate to says this, but it's best to postpone dating until you are an independent adult. That way dating won't get in the way of your future.



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14 Dec 2015, 5:31 pm

Then you might as well postpone everything not strictly needed to become an independent adult till you're one. No friends, no going out, no hobbies, no learning anything you won't use in your job. Besides, since you're going to be isolated and not even try to date, you don't need to take care of your physical shape. This way, nothing will get in the way of your future. Why eliminate only the threat posed by dating when you can get rid of 'em all?

And, of course, once you're finally an independent adult, you'll want to keep this non-lifestyle, so nothing gets in the way of your job.

I'm quite sensitive about this, because it's sort of the story of my life. The difference is I got desperate and ruined everything when I tried in vain to get permission to date from my parents. Nothing will ever make up to me for the loss of my teenage years and young adulthood without as much as a chance to approach a girl. I wish I could have tried, even if I'd have been rejected.


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15 Dec 2015, 3:09 am

Spiderpig wrote:
Then you might as well postpone everything not strictly needed to become an independent adult till you're one. No friends, no going out, no hobbies, no learning anything you won't use in your job. Besides, since you're going to be isolated and not even try to date, you don't need to take care of your physical shape. This way, nothing will get in the way of your future. Why eliminate only the threat posed by dating when you can get rid of 'em all?


Agreed. I think that was really bad advice. Besides, being interested in girls is like an innate need, so if you neglect that chances are you won't be able to hyperfocus on your interest and education either.

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I'm quite sensitive about this, because it's sort of the story of my life. The difference is I got desperate and ruined everything when I tried in vain to get permission to date from my parents. Nothing will ever make up to me for the loss of my teenage years and young adulthood without as much as a chance to approach a girl. I wish I could have tried, even if I'd have been rejected.


Agreed again. You should have.



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15 Dec 2015, 3:32 am

Exactly. It is healthy to be exposed to the opposite sex as a teenager and attempt to form social relationships with them.

If anything it is necessary for healthy relationships.

You've got to make mistakes, and you've got to learn from them, but you won't unless you try in the first place.

Even if you never got a girlfriend throughout high school at least you'd develop the social skills to be friends with a woman, something many aspie males here may be incapable of.

It is only a problem if it distracts the teen too much from their responsibilities.

That's true for anything, really. As a teen, adult, or child.

So as long as having friends/a girlfriend/maintaining your physical health/hobbies and interests/etc. isn't obsessive to the point that it interferes with your lifestyle, what's the problem?

I've currently got my second girlfriend, started dating her shortly before turning 17. I did this because of significant trial and error over my high school years, not shyly backing away and isolating myself in a dark little corner to spend my days depressed and on WP. Something a fair amount of us may resort to to feel better about life.



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15 Dec 2015, 3:48 am

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Then you might as well postpone everything not strictly needed to become an independent adult till you're one. No friends, no going out, no hobbies, no learning anything you won't use in your job. Besides, since you're going to be isolated and not even try to date, you don't need to take care of your physical shape. This way, nothing will get in the way of your future. Why eliminate only the threat posed by dating when you can get rid of 'em all?

And, of course, once you're finally an independent adult, you'll want to keep this non-lifestyle, so nothing gets in the way of your job.

I'm quite sensitive about this, because it's sort of the story of my life. The difference is I got desperate and ruined everything when I tried in vain to get permission to date from my parents. Nothing will ever make up to me for the loss of my teenage years and young adulthood without as much as a chance to approach a girl. I wish I could have tried, even if I'd have been rejected.

From your other posts it seems you actually encourage postponing dating until one is independent. MonsterCrack received the same advice from Fnord. If you're an aspie, socializing takes too much energy so it's best to just not bother with it until you have a house and a job. Besides, when you're independent, your parents can't tell you what to do and you don't have to ask them to give you money. Of course, you don't have to keep a "non-lifestyle". Work out, take care of your appearance, play video games and read books. Just don't do anything that is not strictly necessary and consumes too much energy/time.
Spiderpig, I'm curious about something. How old are you?



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15 Dec 2015, 1:26 pm

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From your other posts it seems you actually encourage postponing dating until one is independent. MonsterCrack received the same advice from Fnord. If you're an aspie, socializing takes too much energy so it's best to just not bother with it until you have a house and a job.


Being interested in a compatible girl doesn't take much energy at all, rather may even give a positive energy outcome. It seems you are confusing learning NT social rules with being interested in girls. If not anything else, it's necessary to learn how to find compatible girls, and the sooner you start with that the better. Making mistakes in selecting the wrong girls while still in school is much less problematic than doing it later when people start getting more serious.

Besides, my opinion is that NT dating is never a good idea, so there is no reason to ever starting with that. :mrgreen:



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15 Dec 2015, 5:44 pm

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I hate to says this, but it's best to postpone dating until you are an independent adult. That way dating won't get in the way of your future.


Don't get a life until you get a life?

That doesnt work.



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15 Dec 2015, 6:09 pm

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Spiderpig wrote:
Then you might as well postpone everything not strictly needed to become an independent adult till you're one. No friends, no going out, no hobbies, no learning anything you won't use in your job. Besides, since you're going to be isolated and not even try to date, you don't need to take care of your physical shape. This way, nothing will get in the way of your future. Why eliminate only the threat posed by dating when you can get rid of 'em all?

And, of course, once you're finally an independent adult, you'll want to keep this non-lifestyle, so nothing gets in the way of your job.

I'm quite sensitive about this, because it's sort of the story of my life. The difference is I got desperate and ruined everything when I tried in vain to get permission to date from my parents. Nothing will ever make up to me for the loss of my teenage years and young adulthood without as much as a chance to approach a girl. I wish I could have tried, even if I'd have been rejected.

From your other posts it seems you actually encourage postponing dating until one is independent. MonsterCrack received the same advice from Fnord. If you're an aspie, socializing takes too much energy so it's best to just not bother with it until you have a house and a job. Besides, when you're independent, your parents can't tell you what to do and you don't have to ask them to give you money. Of course, you don't have to keep a "non-lifestyle". Work out, take care of your appearance, play video games and read books. Just don't do anything that is not strictly necessary and consumes too much energy/time.
Spiderpig, I'm curious about something. How old are you?


Time-consuming? Yes. Unnecessary? Not at all.

Imho, it is just one method of developing social skills.

There is theoretical studying social skills and then there is practically applying it in real life situations. Guess which one was always my preferred method.

You could say hobbies/interests are just as unnecessary and time-consuming. Constructive hobbies (writing, building, creating, etc.) might not be because they help you develop a skill, but passive hobbies (tv, video games, etc.) aren't necessarily useful in the 'real world' at all.



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17 Dec 2015, 5:01 pm

You have to balance everything.