minervx wrote:
One thing, in dating, and in general, is that people respect challenge.
This is why the "nice guy" who gives the girl flowers, compliments her all the time and calls her up whenever she posts an upsetting facebook status gets in the friend-zone.
Relationships are supposed to be 50-50, and if you give the other person all the power, they lose respect for you. They either leave/ignore you or they use you.
You don't have to be a jerk, but you can't be desperate. You can't be too accommodating, live around their schedule, or be willing to make huge changes just to impress that other person.
You can't suffocate them with attention or affection. Give the other person just enough to keep them wanting more. No woman feels special knowing that she is being treated like a queen, when you two barely know each other. Only because she is a woman and she's talking to you.
People like challenges. What is too easily attained isn't valued. But if something is harder to obtain; it is worth a little more. This doesn't mean play hard to get by artificially making yourself unavailable. By challenge I mean, through your intellect, wit and humor. Challenge her to reciprocate. It means living your life normally and making the other person something on the side, rather than a top priority, until you two are exclusive.
Bottom line:
Your philosophy should not be "I'd be really lucky if she talked to me or went out with me."
It should be "I'm a person with a lot to offer. I've met a lot of great beautiful women before. I'm able to meet plenty of great women again too. But for now, maybe I could give this one person a chance to see how it works out".
I mainly agree with this, but not entirely for those reasons. Being excessively submissive creeps me out in a way consistent with this post. But part of the reason I don't like it when people try to hard is if somebody never criticises me, I can't take any of their compliments seriously. For me to appreciate it when they say something nice, I need some evidence that they actually meant it, which requires proof they can also criticise when they mean it.