Why is it girls have an easier time getting dates than guys?
They are a tiny minority among feminists though, just like MRAs who hate women are a tiny minority among men. And you know this. It would be appreciated if you would stop representing them as the loud majority, because that is not the case. There is no Grand Feminist Agenda™ to wipe out men. Most of us just want to be considered people, just like men are--and to get legal recognition of that in the form of things like equal pay for equal work (as in laws that are actually enforced). That's really all there is to it. We're not out to get you.
This implies that you are crazy and need to see a good shrink.
It's Katy-Kay back at it Uh-Gain......
Don't even reply that just encourages *her*.
She usually never responds to me though. And I am not sure that she knows she is wrong and is just trolling, some feminists really think that way.
What the HELL does feminism (which is, for the billionth time, about equality) have to do with some girls wanting nothing to do with some guys?
Can you please explain to me how a guy "being a virgin not by choice" doesn't imply that that guy feels entitled to sex?
Sly and Spiderpig freely admit that they don't talk to to girls, do not ask girls out and haven't in YEARS... because they got rejected by some girls years ago.
They aren't trying. They're alone because they don't try.
Hell, Sly insisted that a new, pretty female coworker who said hi to him and chatted with him occasionally did so with some sort of malicious intent because she had a boyfriend. Because making idle chit-chat is evil? Because a cute, outgoing, chatty girl made a purely friendly overture is nefarious?
Sly is a tall, okay looking, college-educated white guy with an inferiority complex. He barely leaves his room, reacts badly when females try to engage him in conversation and b*****s no girls ever want him. (How would girls find him or know he exists? There are no girls in his sad little room.
Spiderpig really, truly (and it goes without saying incorrectly) believes that merely talking to a woman who isn't interested in him, in a public place, in broad daylight will get him beat up or a restraining order filed against him. He talks to no girls ever. Hasn't asked a girl out in years!
Spidey, Sly aren't trying. They are single virgins by CHOICE. Because CHOOSING not to TRY to date is a choice. They're CHOOSING to remain virgins and blaming it on the women of the world!
Lemme explain something to you and simplify things:
If you CHOOSE to ask someone out, they can CHOOSE to say "No" for Any.Reason. They. See. Fit!
In fact, they don't owe you an explanation and they sure as bloody f*cking hell don't have to justify it. Some women might say no because you're not tall enough. Dating and Sex is an area of life where people are going to judge you on things you don't have any control over. That's the ugly reality of many relationships: You often get LESS out of them than you put into them.
When I was a teenager I was constantly asking girls out in HS and getting rejected again, and again, and again, and uh-gain......
....And this continued into college. I got rejected 9 TIMES(same # of times Ferris Bueller skipped school) before I finally met my first gf.
Social stuff, be if friendship or dating, is NOT a meritocracy. It makes no difference how many times you and some others post this "think positive" self-help snakeoil BS. People hear just aren't buying it.
Entitlement means that you believe that other people are *obligated* to give you something. It isn't the same thing as simply wanting something. So this whole "you're not entitled to sex blah blah blah" is just another way of saying "know you're place and stay in it, peasant".
You kept trying, eventually found a girlfriend.
Had you stopped after rejection #5 or #8 you might still be single.
Which proves my point.
This implies that you are crazy and need to see a good shrink.
It's Katy-Kay back at it Uh-Gain......
Don't even reply that just encourages *her*.
She usually never responds to me though. And I am not sure that she knows she is wrong and is just trolling, some feminists really think that way.
What the HELL does feminism (which is, for the billionth time, about equality) have to do with some girls wanting nothing to do with some guys?
Maybe some feminists want equality but some other feminists are crazy sexists who hate men. It really annoys me that you keep pretending that these feminists are a fairy tale, we even have some here other than you.
Sly and Spiderpig freely admit that they don't talk to to girls, do not ask girls out and haven't in YEARS... because they got rejected by some girls years ago.
They aren't trying. They're alone because they don't try.
Hell, Sly insisted that a new, pretty female coworker who said hi to him and chatted with him occasionally did so with some sort of malicious intent because she had a boyfriend. Because making idle chit-chat is evil? Because a cute, outgoing, chatty girl made a purely friendly overture is nefarious?
Sly is a tall, okay looking, college-educated white guy with an inferiority complex. He barely leaves his room, reacts badly when females try to engage him in conversation and b*****s no girls ever want him. (How would girls find him or know he exists? There are no girls in his sad little room.
Spiderpig really, truly (and it goes without saying incorrectly) believes that merely talking to a woman who isn't interested in him, in a public place, in broad daylight will get him beat up or a restraining order filed against him. He talks to no girls ever. Hasn't asked a girl out in years!
Spidey, Sly aren't trying. They are single virgins by CHOICE. Because CHOOSING not to TRY to date is a choice. They're CHOOSING to remain virgins and blaming it on the women of the world!
How long will you keep abusing our patience Katy? For how long will this madness of yours still mock us? To what extent will your unbrindled audacity carry itself?
I thought that English was your first language, don't you understand it? I thought that you were a college-educated women, has such level of instruction sunk so low?
When a guy is not virgin by choice it means by definition that a guy would like to have sex but doesn't find a mate, it by no means implies that he thinks that women are not giving him something he is entitled to. You are attributing to this defitnition something that has nothing to do with it and you are using it to put down people. Are you evil or just incredibly stupid?
Please do us all a favour and go see a good shrink instead of pestering us with your insanity.
Let's chalk it up to evolution. Perhaps Sly and Spiderpig's genes aren't meant to be passed along to the next generation.
I really don't get why you see the "real" feminists as evil - the real feminists are about equality, myself included. In the US, women still earn less than men for the same work/experience (after controlling for stuff like a woman taking X years out of the workforce to care for kids).
Let's use Sly as an example: he works part-time and makes minimum wage and is mad girls with stable, well-paid jobs aren't interested in dating him. Women who aren't looking for a man to be their sugar daddy, simply for a partner who is their equal.
Why should a girl compromise when there are guys out there who DO meet the reasonable standards she sets? Standards she holds HERSELF to?
I loved that one
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You agreeing about something she said doesn't make it right.
In both my posts I wrote "some feminists", where do you see "loud majority"? I have nothing to say about the ones who don't annoy me with misandric stuff, I only rant at those who do that.
I really don't get why you see the "real" feminists as evil - the real feminists are about equality, myself included. In the US, women still earn less than men for the same work/experience (after controlling for stuff like a woman taking X years out of the workforce to care for kids).
Let's use Sly as an example: he works part-time and makes minimum wage and is mad girls with stable, well-paid jobs aren't interested in dating him. Women who aren't looking for a man to be their sugar daddy, simply for a partner who is their equal.
Why should a girl compromise when there are guys out there who DO meet the reasonable standards she sets? Standards she holds HERSELF to?
Can you please stop using fallacies to try to prove your points? You are trying to change the topic to something I'm not really interested in (Sly's love situation) and moreover in the past I already told him some of the things you say. Heck, I even said that you were right in some occasions! But here we are discussing about a definition, not about people. The expression "virgin not by choice" means that someone is a virgin because he was not able to find a partner, not a single one of the words of that expression have the slightest nuance of entitlement. AR1500 before finding a gf was not a virgin by choice, but because he was rejected. The act of being rejected doesn't mean that you think you are entitled to someone else's vagina, but merely that they don't want you as a partner. Do you finally understand?
Oh and Sly is not a virgin anyway.
You agreeing about something she said doesn't make it right.
No, her being right makes it right.
Though my agreeing with something is usually a pretty good indication that it's right.
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Of course, it's probably quite a bit more complicated than that.
You know sometimes, between the dames and the horses, I don't even know why I put my hat on.
I loved that one
I will make a full version of it maybe.
Of course, if she were right.
Such modesty.
Of course, if she were right.
Which she is, and so on and so on.
Such modesty.
Just honesty.
It's funny. Almost definitionally, Aspies are supposed to be more intelligent and 'rational'. Yet looking through this forum, time and again the reason any given male member cannot get a girlfriend is apparently either because 1) he's just too damn nice or 2) it's the feminists, churning up the natural order, turning women against men, etc etc.
Well, I say funny. I mean bleak.
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Of course, it's probably quite a bit more complicated than that.
You know sometimes, between the dames and the horses, I don't even know why I put my hat on.
Let's chalk it up to evolution. Perhaps Sly and Spiderpig's genes aren't meant to be passed along to the next generation.
I really don't get why you see the "real" feminists as evil - the real feminists are about equality, myself included. In the US, women still earn less than men for the same work/experience (after controlling for stuff like a woman taking X years out of the workforce to care for kids).
Let's use Sly as an example: he works part-time and makes minimum wage and is mad girls with stable, well-paid jobs aren't interested in dating him. Women who aren't looking for a man to be their sugar daddy, simply for a partner who is their equal.
Why should a girl compromise when there are guys out there who DO meet the reasonable standards she sets? Standards she holds HERSELF to?
You really are obsessed with Sly aren't you..........
Nevertheless, the unemployment rate for American women is less than it is for American Men. Women on average make 78% of what a man makes for the same job. So they paygap is very much symbolic because there are millions of American women, many of them single mothers, who earn enough to make ends meet and support a family as well as themselves. So economically speaking, women really don't *need* men as breadwinners any longer.
Had you stopped after rejection #5 or #8 you might still be single.
Which proves my point.
Actually NO. Because after #9 I tried meeting women through a completely different approach that did not involve asking them out IRL. I met her through a weird printed personals and placed the add in the "Other seeking" which is for platonic and not just romantic/hookup. She left a voice msg with a phone number(twas the late 90s) and I called her, we talked, and met for coffee and initially I had no clue that it would lead to something more. It wasn't until the second time I saw her when she invited me over that one thing led to another. And the add I placed has the keyword "autistic goth" in it.
So if I had kept up the previous approach of asking people out based on their appearance I'd still be single. See? MARKET YOURSELF TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE INSTEAD OF JUST CHASING AFTER PEOPLE WHO YOU LIKE THE LOOK OF! I realized the women I was asking out showed no signs of actual romantic interest in me and really didn't have enough in common with me, let alone find me attractive. Asking someone out and getting a "yes" isn't random, it's because that person is attracted to you. If you're gonna meet women the old fashioned way by asking them out then you better know how to read body language. A lot of chicks DO NOT appreciate men hitting on them when they have not given out any nonverbal cues that they're interested.
You keep saying words but not a single argumentation.
It's funny. Almost definitionally, Aspies are supposed to be more intelligent and 'rational'. Yet looking through this forum, time and again the reason any given male member cannot get a girlfriend is apparently either because 1) he's just too damn nice or 2) it's the feminists, churning up the natural order, turning women against men, etc etc.
Well, I say funny. I mean bleak.
Honesty? More like dishonesty. You two are trying to shift the topic to something I was not talking about and I even agree with you on that! But I want to believe in your honesty and think that you just didn't follow the discussion much, reread it please. Katy was accusing some guy of feeling entitled to sex just because he used the expression "virgin not by choice", which actually doesn't imply that a person feels entitled to sex. A guy who is virgin not by choice can certainly have feelings of entitlement, but they would depend more on his own douchery than on his unwanted virginity.
This implies that you are crazy and need to see a good shrink.
It's Katy-Kay back at it Uh-Gain......
Don't even reply that just encourages *her*.
She usually never responds to me though. And I am not sure that she knows she is wrong and is just trolling, some feminists really think that way.
What the HELL does feminism (which is, for the billionth time, about equality) have to do with some girls wanting nothing to do with some guys?
Maybe some feminists want equality but some other feminists are crazy sexists who hate men. It really annoys me that you keep pretending that these feminists are a fairy tale, we even have some here other than you.
Sly and Spiderpig freely admit that they don't talk to to girls, do not ask girls out and haven't in YEARS... because they got rejected by some girls years ago.
They aren't trying. They're alone because they don't try.
Hell, Sly insisted that a new, pretty female coworker who said hi to him and chatted with him occasionally did so with some sort of malicious intent because she had a boyfriend. Because making idle chit-chat is evil? Because a cute, outgoing, chatty girl made a purely friendly overture is nefarious?
Sly is a tall, okay looking, college-educated white guy with an inferiority complex. He barely leaves his room, reacts badly when females try to engage him in conversation and b*****s no girls ever want him. (How would girls find him or know he exists? There are no girls in his sad little room.
Spiderpig really, truly (and it goes without saying incorrectly) believes that merely talking to a woman who isn't interested in him, in a public place, in broad daylight will get him beat up or a restraining order filed against him. He talks to no girls ever. Hasn't asked a girl out in years!
Spidey, Sly aren't trying. They are single virgins by CHOICE. Because CHOOSING not to TRY to date is a choice. They're CHOOSING to remain virgins and blaming it on the women of the world!
How long will you keep abusing our patience Katy? For how long will this madness of yours still mock us? To what extent will your unbrindled audacity carry itself?
I thought that English was your first language, don't you understand it? I thought that you were a college-educated women, has such level of instruction sunk so low?
When a guy is not virgin by choice it means by definition that a guy would like to have sex but doesn't find a mate, it by no means implies that he thinks that women are not giving him something he is entitled to. You are attributing to this defitnition something that has nothing to do with it and you are using it to put down people. Are you evil or just incredibly stupid?
Please do us all a favour and go see a good shrink instead of pestering us with your insanity.
Let's chalk it up to evolution. Perhaps Sly and Spiderpig's genes aren't meant to be passed along to the next generation.
I really don't get why you see the "real" feminists as evil - the real feminists are about equality, myself included. In the US, women still earn less than men for the same work/experience (after controlling for stuff like a woman taking X years out of the workforce to care for kids).
Let's use Sly as an example: he works part-time and makes minimum wage and is mad girls with stable, well-paid jobs aren't interested in dating him. Women who aren't looking for a man to be their sugar daddy, simply for a partner who is their equal.
Why should a girl compromise when there are guys out there who DO meet the reasonable standards she sets? Standards she holds HERSELF to?
The amount of calousness in that post is incredibly frightening.
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I don't know why people seem to assume women are so picky about men. Maybe they are. I don't know many women so I can't say.
But I don't consider myself picky. I like men that are smart, and interesting, with a sense of humor, who are also genuinely nice.
What I dislike personality-wise is lying, rudeness, disrespect, laziness.
What I like physically is kind of hard to say. I like a guy in good shape, but not necessarily super muscular and fit. I like nice smile, and eyes.
I don't like men that are really overweight, bald, or have bad hygiene. A guy needs to take care of himself health-wise.
I don't think that's really picky. I don't need a tall guy, a really handsome guy, a rich guy, I don't care if he has a nice car.
But I don't consider myself picky. I like men that are smart, and interesting, with a sense of humor, who are also genuinely nice.
What I dislike personality-wise is lying, rudeness, disrespect, laziness.
What I like physically is kind of hard to say. I like a guy in good shape, but not necessarily super muscular and fit. I like nice smile, and eyes.
I don't like men that are really overweight, bald, or have bad hygiene. A guy needs to take care of himself health-wise.
I don't think that's really picky. I don't need a tall guy, a really handsome guy, a rich guy, I don't care if he has a nice car.
I can remember from a psychology course I took in Uni that excessive characteristics of a gender stereotypes actually deters one person from the other. My family doesn't see that as an issue that I have almost no muscles, but they agree with me that bringing down my weight should be a priority. I hope that I can slim down to 200 pounds by next summer, but with me looking for a job and expecting my first child, I have no clue if I will be able to allocate enough time for fitness. No paternal leave for unemployed men like me.
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The calorie apps and fitness apps really help me by keeping it in my mind and forcing me to track my eating habits and strength training. You'd be surprised how much easier it is once you start a habit. Even with limited time, a little effort can make a big difference.
I think so many get discouraged because it's so hard in the beginning that they give up.
But I don't consider myself picky. I like men that are smart, and interesting, with a sense of humor, who are also genuinely nice.
I guess it depends on the standard you compare your pickiness with. As far as I know, men are generally much less picky than that when it comes to whom they're sexually attracted to. Women are attractive by default; men aren't and have to earn it. The situation is probably more balanced for serious relationships, though.
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