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18 Feb 2016, 3:19 pm

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Dude, he's simply picking up on a trend he observed. I was just inferring a possible reason for it.

Obviously it's not going to ring true 100% of the time, and it may be more the case where he is than where you are, but to dismiss a pattern as silly without providing evidence to contradict it is silly in itself.

Yeah I bet in his area poor girls are bad and wealthy girls are good.


I'd be curious to know why he says they are undesirable...before I can have much opinion on if its a shallow reason like wanting to gain social status by getting a richer girlfriend or simply that hes not finding any interesting women in his area that are in his economic class. Since it does make a bit of a different

Either way if one is pursuing people of a higher economic class, they are going to have lesser chances than within their own, statistically speaking I imagine.


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18 Feb 2016, 3:26 pm

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Dude, he's simply picking up on a trend he observed. I was just inferring a possible reason for it.

Obviously it's not going to ring true 100% of the time, and it may be more the case where he is than where you are, but to dismiss a pattern as silly without providing evidence to contradict it is silly in itself.

Yeah I bet in his area poor girls are bad and wealthy girls are good.


I'd be curious to know why he says they are undesirable...before I can have much opinion on if its a shallow reason like wanting to gain social status by getting a richer girlfriend or simply that hes not finding any interesting women in his area that are in his economic class. Since it does make a bit of a different

Either way if one is pursuing people of a higher economic class, they are going to have lesser chances than within their own, statistically speaking I imagine.

Idk why he said it, but as I said it sounds shallow to me, at least in the way he worded it.



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18 Feb 2016, 3:34 pm

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The world isn't set up by anyone, and you can live without money just fine in a deserted island provided you grow your own food and make all the tools you need. Money exists precisely because specializing and trading is more efficient, so those who do it tend to win. The fact that a modern society can have moochers like myself parasitizing it is a testament to its success---in a Stone Age economy, there'd be no room for us and we'd be long dead.


I didn't say it was set up by anyone specific, just that the way it is currently you cannot very well live in society without any money or without relying on people with money...since damn near everything is a product that must be bought.

Also how would you get to the deserted island? where would you get seeds to grow the food...would a typical person that's been living in a society where money is the means to survival actually know how to make all the tools they need, harvest the food and do all the things they need to survive without money on said deserted island?

And I probably could probably fare alright in a stone age economy....why do you figure you'd be long dead?


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18 Feb 2016, 3:45 pm

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Also, if we...

But we don't.

We also don't live in a world where everyone realistically has the potential to earn infinite money. Also at one time when it was backed by gold or whatever it was a finite resource. Its just that since the digital age now its not backed by anything except debt but nothing solid but still can cause inflation and behave as though it is backed by something. Also the worlds wealth is skewed most of it is in the hands of the wealthy........So for most people (aside from those living cut off from civilization societies which not even sure if there are any such groups anymore) money is a means of survival and to the end of purchasing resources and things you want, not something they can use to make all their dreams come true.

For people with tons and tons of money, maybe they are able to see it in itself as the thing that provides them the happiness.


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18 Feb 2016, 3:55 pm

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If your girlfriend isn't the love of your life, why is she your girlfriend in the first place?
I wasn't able to find a girl who was absolutely perfect. Who can?


Since when does the love of your life = absolutely perfect? There is no such thing as an absolutely perfect human to begin with. Its someone you care deeply and intimately about who you couldn't bear the thought of being without. I mean you'll end up moving on from every girl you date always looking for someone more perfect and never be satisfied at your current rate.


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18 Feb 2016, 3:57 pm

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I'm pretty sure that, if the social pressure to be monogamous ever vanishes completely, many more men will be unable to find a partner, as the vast majority of women will stick to the few most desirable men. And this is the way things ought to be---noöne has any business telling anyone else whom they should choose as a partner.


Based on how pissed off women get about being cheated on, I have a hard time believing that the majority would be cool with polygamy...since that would require sharing, women don't like to share with other women for the most part.


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18 Feb 2016, 11:21 pm

it came as a shock to me, and it still is, but one of my aunts, my moms youngest sister, told me she was single throughout all of her teens and 20's, didn't really get her first real boyfriend until sometime in her 30's, it was more shocking to hear from a woman, since women seem less likely than men to end up single that long.



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19 Feb 2016, 2:15 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
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I'm pretty sure that, if the social pressure to be monogamous ever vanishes completely, many more men will be unable to find a partner, as the vast majority of women will stick to the few most desirable men. And this is the way things ought to be---noöne has any business telling anyone else whom they should choose as a partner.


Based on how pissed off women get about being cheated on, I have a hard time believing that the majority would be cool with polygamy...since that would require sharing, women don't like to share with other women for the most part.

Based on how many women cheat it would seem to balance out. Plus women being upset when cheated on were raised in monogamous society forced by law. If it became legal and accepted they'd probably be ok sharing. I think given a climbing male unemployment and increasing demands by women, one mand multiple women relationships are unavoidable. Women will adapt as they have in the past. The men will die off. Either that or our negative population will continue to go negative until it reaches a point of no return and hundred years from now America will bee a very different nation. Heck western civilization in all is in a negative population spiral. Poeople aren't dating, aren't having kids, and if do are having too few. Some nations 50% or more of the population is single. This won't end well. At least with 1 man multiple women. The population wil grow, all be it there be an problem eventually as so many future population will be closely related and eventually unable to fine matches, but that take multiple generations to become a problem.



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19 Feb 2016, 7:27 pm

There are plenty of women who are perfectly okay with sharing men, including men they're married or otherwise committed to -- they're called swingers and it's called "the lifestyle"). No legal changes are required.

A quick Google search turns up lots of articles in fact-checked publications about polyamoryrous couples.

I don't think sly's into open relationships or polyamory. He's just sad that the girls he wants to date aren't interested in dating him -- and that many of the girls he's shown interest in have degrees and good jobs and not unreasonably expect to date guys who are equally well set up in adulthood.

15% of Americans being poor enough to qualify for food stamps certainly suggests that Sly has plenty of broke girls to choose from.



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20 Feb 2016, 1:36 am

But a good chunk of that 15% probably have degrees, too, so, according to your points, they should be expected to turn up their little, pretty noses at him as well.


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20 Feb 2016, 1:55 am

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But a good chunk of that 15% probably have degrees, too, so, according to your points, they should be expected to turn up their little, pretty noses at him as well.

I thought Sly had a degree too, doesn't he?
Btw how dumb is it for a person with a degree to only want to date people with degrees? It just shows that having a degree doesn't make you an intelligent or mature person by default. Just look at Katy!



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20 Feb 2016, 3:18 am

Peacesells wrote:
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But a good chunk of that 15% probably have degrees, too, so, according to your points, they should be expected to turn up their little, pretty noses at him as well.

I thought Sly had a degree too, doesn't he?
Btw how dumb is it for a person with a degree to only want to date people with degrees? It just shows that having a degree doesn't make you an intelligent or mature person by default. Just look at Katy!

In a field I can't work in, so it doesn't count I guess. The general idea of women desiring s guy with a degree is degree= high paying job=lots of money. That's the whole reason to go to college, the whole people who don't go to college get paid half as much as people who went to college lie they tell high schoolers here. They fail to tell them 1/3 or more of people who go to college won't ever use their degrees. There's also a lot of degrees that would never lead to a job.

I'd rather not tell people I went to college or got a degree it always leads to "why aren't you working in that field making good money?" I don't even remember most if any of what I learned as its been 4 years of not using it and it was information overload and hope you remember 1/4 of what we taught you. College degrees it's a bit scam by the schools. They keep raising costs to increase profits too, all while refusing pay raises to teachers my, working most of them part time to avoid ten year, getting government grants to build fancy new buildings at no cost to themselves and receiving huge lumps of money from corporations. it's another housing bubble. The education bubble. Lol



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20 Feb 2016, 3:33 am

Some people go to college to study something they like for its own sake, or because they like the field enough to work in it even if it doesn't pay higher than something they could do without their degree.

I was actually sort of encouraged to be one of them.


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20 Feb 2016, 3:57 am

"what can you offer? what can they?" I hear that question a lot... I don't know how to answer it? are we talking monetary value of some sort? emotional stability? no one is truly 100% emotionally stable, and as for monetary value, if that is all their interested in I personally would rather stay single. what exactly am I looking for? are we talking looks? are we talking intelligence? the list goes on! better yet, aside from the obvious male part that screams for attention from the opposite sex, what do we have to gain aside from a few hours of pleasure, and a (possibly) lifelong companion whom you will most likely argue and bicker with over even the small things like toilet paper. is it so you are not alone? isn't that what friends are for? is the only reason we try so hard to go for each other is just because we want something that seems attainable until you realize you had it?


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20 Feb 2016, 5:16 am

sly279 wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
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But a good chunk of that 15% probably have degrees, too, so, according to your points, they should be expected to turn up their little, pretty noses at him as well.

I thought Sly had a degree too, doesn't he?
Btw how dumb is it for a person with a degree to only want to date people with degrees? It just shows that having a degree doesn't make you an intelligent or mature person by default. Just look at Katy!

In a field I can't work in, so it doesn't count I guess. The general idea of women desiring s guy with a degree is degree= high paying job=lots of money. That's the whole reason to go to college, the whole people who don't go to college get paid half as much as people who went to college lie they tell high schoolers here. They fail to tell them 1/3 or more of people who go to college won't ever use their degrees. There's also a lot of degrees that would never lead to a job.

I'd rather not tell people I went to college or got a degree it always leads to "why aren't you working in that field making good money?" I don't even remember most if any of what I learned as its been 4 years of not using it and it was information overload and hope you remember 1/4 of what we taught you. College degrees it's a bit scam by the schools. They keep raising costs to increase profits too, all while refusing pay raises to teachers my, working most of them part time to avoid ten year, getting government grants to build fancy new buildings at no cost to themselves and receiving huge lumps of money from corporations. it's another housing bubble. The education bubble. Lol

I agree with Spiderpig that knowledge shouldn't be sought because of money or to get women, but hey if people want to do it it's ok. Apart from this you should be proud of what you accomplished, some people like me wouldn't be able to do it.

Anyway, why can't you work in that field?



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20 Feb 2016, 6:52 am

dont be sad bro you will get your sweet heart ...