I don't want to date poor people

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^ He's Peter Pan.

Something like 75% of US adults don't have a four-year college degree and 15% of Americans are poor enough to qualify for food stamps at any given time. Way more than 25% of US adults are in relationships at any given time. Half US households earn less than $56k, the median household income. By the numbers, there are plenty of US adults who are poor, working class or lower middle class and are in relationships, since far less than 75% of adults are single at any given time.

What constitutes a good income varies considerably from person to person - $35k a year goes much further in, say, Grand Forks than Manhattan.

also, how do you know your income is what's holding you back from dating? Unless you include your income on your dating profile, how would girls you've never met know it?

Did you see Pauline's Hanson's aweful, zenophobic, classist speach?


What, does she want school leavers to wait a couple more years before they get a payment? It would be fine if they got a job straight away (much easier said than done) but while they're looking for work, how will it impact their finances?

It's like she (and other politicians) want to cut off the parenting payment when you turn 16, expect you to go through 2 years of school with no payment to you or your parents and then go through one or two more years after school because she doesn't want "school leavers going immediately onto welfair".

Does she want them immediately going into poverty? Does she think they'll all find a job five minutes after they start looking for one?

It's not like they just give welfair to anyone who says they don't like working. They're required to look for a job afterall. I'm sure she has an easier time finding work than your average 18 year old school leaver. She's up in her ivory tower. She went to university back when it was free. What does she know about what it's like to come of age in a lower class family?

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True but statistics can be misleading. 75% of US adults covers all adult age groups in the US. Everyone from 18 to 88.

Decades ago, when old people were college age, only a small percentage of people went to a four-year college. Maybe 10% or 15%.

Nowadays, a lot of college age people are in college. Maybe 50% or 60%. The 25% would be an average between old people (fewer degrees) and young people (more degrees).

Presumable a young man in his 20s like Sly would want to date a girl in her 20s. If you only count people aged 20-29, I'll bed a lot more than 25% would either be in college or already have a four-year college degree.

You make it sound like four-year degrees are rare. They are among the general population, counting all age groups. Among young twentyagers they are commonplace.

There are neighborhoods today which have 50-60% Bachelor's rates. I've also seen neighborhood where there's about a 12% rate.

The 25% nationwide figure has been around for a long time, since at least the 1980s.

Before World War II, the rate was less than 10%. It rose quite sharply between the late 1940's and 1970s. Then it levelled off.

You'd be surprised: 15% of the nation's adult population didn't even COMPLETE HIGH SCHOOL.

Does that mean the level hasn't changed since the 80s or does that mean the survey was done in the 80s and people are still referencing it?

It really hasn't changed since the 1980s, or perhaps even the 1970s.

Even nowadays a survey of all living adults would still include people who college age before that time. Restricting the survey to young adults may still yield a different result.

On the other hand, perhaps the 75% who don't have degrees includes many college dropouts.

Absolutely.

But a college dropout didn't get his/her degree.

ANYBODY who is a high school graduate, or has an equivalency diploma, can get into community colleges. Community college credits count the same as "regular" college credits.

I know lol

It would explain why there are so many in college yet not that many graduates.

I hate it when people say undergrads aren't real students or you can't have a real career without grad school.

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On average, I would say it takes people 5-6 years to graduate, if they graduate.

Kids in nursery school are "real students."

Not surprised.

I'm not fully 'in-the-know' on her but I know she made some sort of xenophobic comment about Muslims and Halal packs or whatever.

But either way, she's not the first to say something like this and this isn't the worst.

In the past I remember hearing of Tony Abbott suggesting to delay the Youth Allowance minimum age to age 25.

Earlier in the year there was a lot of news of a new cashless Centrelink card that's been proposed by Mr. Sh•tbúll, which limits 80% of the person's income to only selected things such as food, etc. and the card can not be used to buy alcohol, cigarettes, etc.

It has already been trialled in a few small towns.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nationa ... 298c43c248

All your criticisms of these botched ideas I agree with.

Besides, the statistics say 25% of people on Newstart have a disability of some kind, yet due to being ineligible for disability on account of the stricter criteria, must seek work.

I'm still not even technically on it myself.

Anyway, statistically in Australia and many other places, young people are in the vulnerable category regarding poverty, along with the homeless, elderly, disabled, etc.

And yeah, you're right about the university attendance rates, along with older people altering statistics for a lot of things.

I've heard stories of men 18-30 who's doctor wouldn't allow them testosterone boosters because they had 'the average amount'.

But the 'average' amount for someone 40+, not a young person. Test levels decrease with age, and peak about 18-20.

Of course people shouldn't be excluded, but there should be some surveys that are more specific and cover a more restrictive range of people.

We see this a lot already - many surveys will separate the answers into age, gender, etc. but not all do this.

Mature-aged students are a minority (old stats, but still partially relevant: http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected] ... enDocument) probably because many adults over 35 didn't have to attend university to get their current job, and are successfully maintaining it and their position is stable.

I don't know if the OP was a troll or being serious, but certainly female hypergamy is a real thing. It's becoming apparent now that more females are higher earners and can't "lower themselves" to dating someone who earns less than them. I find it quite amusing to watch!

Not all of them. I know as many girls as guys on minimum wage or unemployed.

One girl I met through a dating site told me she doesn't want to go for Masters education because she is afraid that would make her much pickier and therefore end up single.

As if her hypergamy is encoded in her genes and functions something like: "If I get Masters, then I must marry a Phd! If I earn 20k then I must marry 40K, if I earn 40K I must marry 100k!! If I become millionaire then I must marry a billionaire!"

Women date up . I seen tons of min wage women but they won't date anyone who earns min wage they want middle class 20-25 an hour