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19 Jan 2018, 9:48 am

How can the name of a state be racist?

Kentucky might have had slavery---but it remained in the Union during the Civil War.

What I think troubled people was that the ads for Kentucky Fried Chicken tended to portray stereotypical black people.

And the fact that "fried chicken" is a stereotypical "black" food, like "blackeyed peas and collard greens."



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19 Jan 2018, 12:56 pm

I never got that stereotype,most southerners,white or black eat fried chicken,collards,cornbread and black eyes peas,watermelon etc..Though the peas people grow in the gardens are usually purple hull.I always have a collard and turnip green patch.Greens are good for you.
If you wiki KFC you will see the name change had nothing to do with racism.


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19 Jan 2018, 2:20 pm

That's because that's what the people in the South eat----but people in the North don't know about that. Instead, they assume this is what black people eat. They assume it's "soul food." Obviously, a stereotype borne of ignorance...

I do remember, in the 1980s, people being upset about how black people were portrayed in commercials for Kentucky Fried Chicken.



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19 Jan 2018, 4:29 pm

Soul food is the best.Cheap,tasty and fills you up.Nothing better than a big plate of fried catfish,hush puppies and homemade slaw.Not to forget,sweet potato pie or maybe blackberry cobbler.Big slice of onion on the side and a pickled hot pepper.It dosent get any better.Wash it down with sweet tea ,cold Co'cola or cold beer.
Season those greens with some pepper sauce and be sure there are plenty of ham hocks or pigs knuckles as my mom called them.
Maybe overly sensitive white people were offended by the commercials.Don't know why,most everybody likes good fried chicken.
The black community in the north eats soul food.My son's first job was installing hi def tv cable in Detroit at the Marriot.I was worried about what he was eating,if he was just feasting on junk.No,the kitchen staff took him under their wing and fed him pinto beans,greens and cornbread.Everything he ate at home.One of the older kitchen ladies was originally from here,so she "adopted "him.They also understand the dialect,some Northerners could not.The folks there made him feel at home and welcome,a great thing for a young man away from home on his first big job.
He was treated better in Detroit than he was when he worked in Cali.In Cali his accent was made fun of,he was called stupid becuse he was from Arkansas,and told he was automatically a racist since he was a Southerner.
When I visited Cali I experienced the same thing.


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19 Jan 2018, 4:37 pm

I like that stuff, too (except for collard greens, which I don't like).

Most of that stuff! I'd be as fat as a house if I had total access to it all the time.



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19 Jan 2018, 4:55 pm

We sweat it off in the heat.lol July on its a sauna outside.Its why we move slow.Who wants to rip around in that kind of heat.
Collards have to be greasy to be good.Fry bacon crisp,then crumble,set aside,slice collards into thin strips by rolling them up,season,cook till tender in the drippings,top with bacon,eat with cornbread.The thing with collard is store bought is usually old tough leaves.You want young tender stuff.They are sweeter after a frost.Don't bother with canned.Nasty,nasty tasting stuff.


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19 Jan 2018, 5:52 pm

Misslizard wrote:
Soul food is the best.Cheap,tasty and fills you up.Nothing better than a big plate of fried catfish,hush puppies and homemade slaw.Not to forget,sweet potato pie or maybe blackberry cobbler.Big slice of onion on the side and a pickled hot pepper.It dosent get any better.Wash it down with sweet tea ,cold Co'cola or cold beer.
Season those greens with some pepper sauce and be sure there are plenty of ham hocks or pigs knuckles as my mom called them.
Maybe overly sensitive white people were offended by the commercials.Don't know why,most everybody likes good fried chicken.
The black community in the north eats soul food.My son's first job was installing hi def tv cable in Detroit at the Marriot.I was worried about what he was eating,if he was just feasting on junk.No,the kitchen staff took him under their wing and fed him pinto beans,greens and cornbread.Everything he ate at home.One of the older kitchen ladies was originally from here,so she "adopted "him.They also understand the dialect,some Northerners could not.The folks there made him feel at home and welcome,a great thing for a young man away from home on his first big job.
He was treated better in Detroit than he was when he worked in Cali.In Cali his accent was made fun of,he was called stupid becuse he was from Arkansas,and told he was automatically a racist since he was a Southerner.
When I visited Cali I experienced the same thing.


Thats not what I think of as "soul food". Its too affluent to be called "soul food". Soul food is stuff like "chitlins" (or chitterlings). Not fried chicken, but friend neck bones, or fried chicken gizzards. No prime cuts. Just the other organs of the animal that most Americans turn the noses up at. Soul food is not blue collar food. Its way below blue collar. :D



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19 Jan 2018, 6:03 pm

Lol I cooked neck bones and rice yesterday.As for gizzards,hell yes.Fried crunchy yet chewy,you need teeth for gizzards unless you slow cook them.I can tell you how to cook a coon if you like. :D


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19 Jan 2018, 9:12 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I do remember, in the 1980s, people being upset about how black people were portrayed in commercials for Kentucky Fried Chicken.


that what started the stereotype with black American and fired chicken?

(I was born in the tail end of the 80s so i only saw movies from that era, but not commercials.)



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19 Jan 2018, 9:30 pm

In the North, black people, to at least some extent, eat the type of foods which their forebears in the South used to eat. Fried chicken, macaroni and cheese, collard greens, black-eye peas, ham hocks, grits, etc., are part of the menu. Especially with such things as pig feet, cow feet, and pigs' intestine (chitlins' or chitterlings), this food is known as "soul food."

There's an expression, "From the rootah to the tootah," which expresses the fact that some people eat the entire pig, cow, etc., rather than specialized parts of the pig or cow.

White people in the North do not tend to eat the above---except for friend chicken and macaroni and cheese. White people in the South do eat this food, however. I didn't know what "grits" are until I was in my 20's.

What I mean as far as the advertisements are concerned: they present black patrons of KFC as having toothy grins, looking like a watered-down version of minstrel characters. They also say things like "finger-lickin' good" and "mmm mmm mmm." If one would look at the ads, one would see what I mean. Not quite Aunt Jemima----but rather like her.



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19 Jan 2018, 9:36 pm

Forget Colonel Sanders,I'm going to eat at Miss Peaches.
https://youtu.be/rGrqW3nx5HM


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19 Jan 2018, 9:38 pm

KFC ads now have this new Colonel Sanders guy---a far cry from the actual Colonel Sanders!



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19 Jan 2018, 9:39 pm

8O This thread just made me subconsciously break my vegetarian streak.

But thanks for reminding me to work out I guess.


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19 Jan 2018, 10:08 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
In the North, black people, to at least some extent, eat the type of foods which their forebears in the South used to eat. Fried chicken, macaroni and cheese, collard greens, black-eye peas, ham hocks, grits, etc., are part of the menu. Especially with such things as pig feet, cow feet, and pigs' intestine (chitlins' or chitterlings), this food is known as "soul food."

There's an expression, "From the rootah to the tootah," which expresses the fact that some people eat the entire pig, cow, etc., rather than specialized parts of the pig or cow.

White people in the North do not tend to eat the above---except for friend chicken and macaroni and cheese. White people in the South do eat this food, however. I didn't know what "grits" are until I was in my 20's.

What I mean as far as the advertisements are concerned: they present black patrons of KFC as having toothy grins, looking like a watered-down version of minstrel characters. They also say things like "finger-lickin' good" and "mmm mmm mmm." If one would look at the ads, one would see what I mean. Not quite Aunt Jemima----but rather like her.



wow, part of me wants to look up those commercials while the other part is scared to...

the other thing i know early alt-right guys post alot is blacks with water melons, is that 80's too? or was that minstralism? (I got as far as late college before I became aware of that steriotype, but didn't get it)



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19 Jan 2018, 10:20 pm

Oh for christs sake,we all eat the hell out of watermelons.It was a rite of passage to steal them from fields.How it got stereotyped onto the black community I don't know,maybe becuse watermelons came from Africa.Along with the other good food ,okra and feild peas,so thank you Africa for providing me with all this jam up good food.


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19 Jan 2018, 10:37 pm

The association between watermelons and black people has been around since at least the 19th century.