Aspie girl is afraid to meet me....help?

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10 Feb 2018, 5:03 am

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Just keep talking to her.

In this case, "familiarity" will probably not breed "contempt." After knowing you a bit better, she might soften, and agree to meet you.

Make sure you both meet in a "neutral" spot, like a restaurant in town.


She's agreed to meet me in a public places twice and bailed both times the day of.

Twice? I see no future in this.


I see a future in this; one wrought with serious anxiety and communication issues. I agree with AngelRho that you should find somebody else.

Because it's so easy to find someone else?

Because anxiety and communication issues aren't inevitable?

Because Aspie females don't have real Aspie issues so nobody needs attempt to understand them?

Because caution and hesitation are the first signs someone is an evil monster?


Bailing out on an arranged meeting at the last minute, twice, is unacceptable no matter the gender. There's anxiety and there's anxiety. At some point you have to draw a line and say, "this is the limit of my patience". I'd say this girl is doing a pretty good job at trying anybody's patience.



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10 Feb 2018, 7:31 am

It is an unacceptable behavior; especially twice. Piggy, stop trying to justify her just because she is a girl.

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10 Feb 2018, 7:53 am

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It is an unacceptable behavior; especially twice. Piggy, stop trying to justify her just because she is a girl.

I haven't defended her because she's female (and you know it) I've done so because I have in the past backed out of doing things due to panicking. Only the OP knows who's idea it was to meet up at that point and whether he pushed for it. I've never backed out of a date (yes that is rude) but I've done it to other things when I've taken on social things because I've been aware of peoples expectations and then when it's come to it, I've bottled.

I also know that I have never been asked out, been on a date, or anything along those lines without feeling there is a loud clock ticking away at me. It takes time for me to process my feeling about someone, I constantly feel pressured to make some kind of decision. When I think over my limited male/female history, I can see this has been the biggest stumbling block, or rather concrete bolder.



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10 Feb 2018, 8:02 am

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10 Feb 2018, 8:32 am

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Guys, unite!

In order to achieve what?


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10 Feb 2018, 1:58 pm

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I can't believe how many guys (not all) are telling you not to bother :( She's an Aspie female, she is going to have issues, you happen to have come across one of hers early on which might be why you have a good chance with her because a lot of NT guys would assume she's playing games, but since you understand that's extremely unlikely from an Aspie you should just be patient. The best way to get her to meet you is to take the pressure off about doing it, tell her to let you know when she's ready and keep communicating in other ways.


Because it's raising a serious red flag. If she can't even meet up with the guy when arranged, twice, then there's something pretty serious going on.

Yes, it means she's really anxious about it. I get really anxious about some things, I'm still hoping to find someone who will be understanding about those things. Don't most Aspie's get anxious about things that seem easy to normal people?


Wouldn’t yo be less anxious after talking to the guy for weeks?
I know I am. I feel like I know the lady already and so I’m far less anxious. I’m mor anxious about messing up. I’m also far less shy if I’d talked to them via text for weeks before, that’s probably why those women thought I was confident on the dates. But if I made a date with say a lady from work I’d be all shy and quiet on the date, I don’t know them as I haven’t talked to them.

Also no not all aspies get anxious. I get really super anxious about video and voice chatting, or phone calls. This aspie lady forced me into video chatting with her after two messages. It was horrible for me. But obviously she didn’t have any anxiety about it.



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10 Feb 2018, 2:22 pm

sly279 wrote:
fluffysaurus wrote:
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I can't believe how many guys (not all) are telling you not to bother :( She's an Aspie female, she is going to have issues, you happen to have come across one of hers early on which might be why you have a good chance with her because a lot of NT guys would assume she's playing games, but since you understand that's extremely unlikely from an Aspie you should just be patient. The best way to get her to meet you is to take the pressure off about doing it, tell her to let you know when she's ready and keep communicating in other ways.


Because it's raising a serious red flag. If she can't even meet up with the guy when arranged, twice, then there's something pretty serious going on.

Yes, it means she's really anxious about it. I get really anxious about some things, I'm still hoping to find someone who will be understanding about those things. Don't most Aspie's get anxious about things that seem easy to normal people?


Wouldn’t yo be less anxious after talking to the guy for weeks?
I know I am. I feel like I know the lady already and so I’m far less anxious. I’m mor anxious about messing up. I’m also far less shy if I’d talked to them via text for weeks before, that’s probably why those women thought I was confident on the dates. But if I made a date with say a lady from work I’d be all shy and quiet on the date, I don’t know them as I haven’t talked to them.

Also no not all aspies get anxious. I get really super anxious about video and voice chatting, or phone calls. This aspie lady forced me into video chatting with her after two messages. It was horrible for me. But obviously she didn’t have any anxiety about it.

I'm not sure, I might feel that I had built them up too much in my mind and worry that they were not what I had persuaded myself they were or I might feel that I would disappoint them and worry that I had not represented myself accurately enough. I think my biggest fear would be that the person didn't believe anything that I put because that is such a constant problem that I have with people. That someone I thought I had things in common with me, had just been humouring me. I get that a lot too.

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10 Feb 2018, 3:07 pm

I played online game and met there one boy. We chatted together ingame and played together. He wanted to meet me. I was worried, that i disappoint him, and then I lose him. I don't think, that i look good, i was worried, that he will not like my look. I was happy that I have friend and I didn't want to change anything. He claimed me that he love me and meeting will change nothing between us. He persuaded me over half a year, then he convinced me. I had the train for free, so I came to him. I didn't know there was anything wrong, but when I came back, he began to behave differently. He didn't write to me first, he didn't write so often, he played less. Eventually stopped playing completely. After this experience, when I found someone other in game, I had more reason to worry. He was upset at me because I didn't want to meet him and he stopped chatting with me. I wanted to fix it and decided to go to the meeting with people from this game. He didn't come, but there I met my husband.

Maybe she has bad experience or she has the same concerns as I had. For me is better, when is clear, how it will be, when some activity is scheduled, not only talking.


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10 Feb 2018, 3:42 pm

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I played online game and met there one boy. We chatted together ingame and played together. He wanted to meet me. I was worried, that i disappoint him, and then I lose him. I don't think, that i look good, i was worried, that he will not like my look. I was happy that I have friend and I didn't want to change anything. He claimed me that he love me and meeting will change nothing between us. He persuaded me over half a year, then he convinced me. I had the train for free, so I came to him. I didn't know there was anything wrong, but when I came back, he began to behave differently. He didn't write to me first, he didn't write so often, he played less. Eventually stopped playing completely. After this experience, when I found someone other in game, I had more reason to worry. He was upset at me because I didn't want to meet him and he stopped chatting with me. I wanted to fix it and decided to go to the meeting with people from this game. He didn't come, but there I met my husband.

Maybe she has bad experience or she has the same concerns as I had. For me is better, when is clear, how it will be, when some activity is scheduled, not only talking.

That happy ending came as complete surprise :D



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10 Feb 2018, 7:38 pm

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We had been a pseudo-couple for a few weeks and had communicated in every possible way other than face to face.

We were supposed to meet on Wednesday but at the last moment she bailed and now she doesn't want to be in a relationship with me.

After a while of talking she said she didn't know why she was afraid to meet me and wasn't sure if afraid was even the right word for how she felt.

Anyone have any relevant experience or insight they'd like to share?

I'm hoping to at least meet her once.


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10 Feb 2018, 8:58 pm

I agree with fluffysaurus on this one. If this is really an Aspie, they aren't trying to deceive this person, they are genuinely afraid. I'd imagine this person views this online communication as a relationship, and she's afraid if you two meet things won't work out. She'd rather hold on to this online relationship than risk it by meeting you in real life. She might not have any or many friends, so this relationship may mean a great deal to her. Meeting you would be a great risk for her, because she's built a lot of meaning from this relationship into her psyche.



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11 Feb 2018, 12:22 am

Here's what I did.....
I invited the Her and a Chaperone, She met me with one of her friends at a mall. When she was comfortable with me we split up and had our date. The friend shopped for a bit and hug out, we all met back up and life was good. If it weren't for the "chaperone" she said she never would have come to meet me. That was the most amazing relationship of my life!


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11 Feb 2018, 1:17 am

^ If she was really interested, she would have dragged a friend or a sister of hers in order to avoid being alone - most girls I met on first dates did that. And always was in a public place or mall.

Did she even suggest that to him? It seems she just bailed at last minute, twice, without suggesting any alternative way.

There’s AS, and there’s being a jerk; they are two different things.

I would say this girl is either crazy or jerk.



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11 Feb 2018, 2:57 am

^The sister/friend thing is a good idea when meeting a man, but this doesn't sound like she's concerned about him being dangerous.



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11 Feb 2018, 8:02 am

fluffy, what do you expect him to do then?

If she is really that unable to date in real life then maybe she is not functional or mature enough for the adult life.



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11 Feb 2018, 1:10 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
fluffy, what do you expect him to do then?

If she is really that unable to date in real life then maybe she is not functional or mature enough for the adult life.

They've been a couple online for a couple of weeks, that's not that long. Since she must have thought she would be able to meet him or she wouldn't previously have agreed she's unlikely to be someone who is unable to leave the house or unable to meet any knew person, more likely this was all a bit too much in one go. Let her choose when it's time, if he has the patience. If he's an impatient person it might be better if he doesn't continue, someone anxious and someone impatient would not be a good match.

The last time I went on a first date with someone who asked me out, in real life (we had met three times) I spent four hours in hysterics trying things on and thinking I looked stupid, and then turned up in jeans, trainers, and a t'shirt. On my only blind date I was a lot calmer because I had very low expectations.