Do women like or dislike effeminate men?

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I will be talking here about specific East Asian men, because I have not seen this cultural phenomenon elsewhere. There is even a word for it - bishounen. In Europe for example, bishounen would be teased and bullied for being effeminate, but it seems socially acceptable in East Asia (although I am not sure to what extent).

Some are so effeminate that they are the definition of androgyny. The least androgynous men can pass as metrosexuals.

In my opinion women are the ones who dedicate themselves to being pretty, not men; with things such as beauty products, heels and female fashion. But I am not saying that men should be dirty, unaware of how they look and smell like obese truck drivers. I think males should look clean, self-aware of how they present themselves and dress well. But it seems some East Asian men have taken this obsession with looks on a new level.

Don't women find men who look too feminine gross?

Aren't female brains wired to be attracted to masculinity just like male brains are wired to be attracted to femininity?

These East Asian men believe that being effeminate would make them even more attractive to the opposite sex. From my masculine perspective trying to look feminine as a man has the opposite of intended effect, it makes you even less attractive. The homosexuals might like that, though.

I don't think that being pretty equals looking feminine. And that the more pretty a person is, the more feminine it must look like.

By that logic most women on Earth would be beautiful, because only a minority of women are masculine. How many women I have seen who have female-shaped eyes, wider hips and notable breasts that an average woman should have, yet they didn't look beautiful.

I agree though that hypermasculine faces such as those of Dolph Lundgren are not so pretty.

Men can still look pretty and cute, but in a masculine way. We use the word handsome to describe male prettiness
instead of the word beautiful, which is reserved for women.

They are going to hang you now.

I don't think that this works for every women on this planet. There are even studies who prove the opposite, especcially in first world countries.

https://www.yourtango.com/20071356/femi ... -to-survey

Im aware that your are talking about asian men here, but I often find myself to be a little bit more effeminate than the average men in my country. I have a girlfriend...

My word. I don't even know how to respond to this...

This is a subject of contention in my head because I find masculine men attractive looks wise. The look I like often comes with totally incompatible lifestyles and I guess its how you can separate that because most people want to keep up with their 'group' socially etc.

I know someone who is eliminating everyone who is not the Korean/Japanese idol look from the running which is basically going to mean a lifetime alone here. But what I cant stand is that these people are plastic surgery copies made by music companies. If youve not looked up the before and after shots of them then its very interesting to see how that 'look' is going to be nigh on unobtainable irl. No sane person is going to pay for that if they are not doing it for a career. And if they do then they will inevitably be so self obsessed there will be no point in being in a relationship with them.

To me theres something wrong with changing your features, its a kind of lying for me anyway, and I even struggle with the make up thing lol so plastic surgery would be too much.

You may not like it, but some of those effeminate men are going to hook up with hotter women than you could ever hope for. Your opinion doesn't matter to those couples.

Here's something that may shock you: women have individual likes and dislikes, very much like men do. We don't all like and dislike the exact same things! Isn't that amazing?!

I think there's some validity to the OP's post if he's asking about western women's preferences in a general sense. No doubt individual preferences from both sexes can vary widely. However, I don't think it would be accurate to be dismissive of the question in a general sense by saying an individual woman's preference can deviate from the norm, therefore there is no generality.

Perhaps posting in a forum asking individuals if women in general like or dislike effeminate men wouldn't be as productive as researching data on what western women are attracted to in men generally. I would be shocked if there wasn't data on the subject out there.

Flip it around. Generally, men are attracted to women who are feminine rather than masculine. Certainly there are men that are attracted to more masculine/rugged women. No right or wrong whatsoever. However, just because it can be assumed that some men (a minority) are attracted to more masculine women doesn't invalidate the fact that most men are attracted to feminine women.

My last boyfriend was an effeminate man who seemed popular with humans in general. He has very long hair, smooth skin, is 5’3” tall, slender build, & is of Native American heritage, with high cheekbones, dark almond-shaped eyes, & full lips. A beautiful man.