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20 Sep 2018, 11:25 am

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Partly why I don't exercise at gyms even though I need to exercise is because I'll see pretty girls at them but I am deemed too "messed up" to talk to them even in a casual manner while it's ok for the jerks to approach them.
Yeah, see, the problem is you're dividing the human race into the desirable and the undesirable and approaching them differently. From your first post, you were OK with being friendly with another guy (once you knew he wasn't gay). You played games together, you chatted. So try looking past the fact that these girls at the gym are young and pretty and desirable, and try treating them like everyone else. Talk to them as if they were guys or ugly or messed up or, you know, fellow humans.
Talk to them as if they were guys? Are you kidding? Did you ever even listen to how guys talk when they think there are no women around? ...

"Hey, butthead! You gonna hog that treadmill all day?"
"Shut the f*** up! I gotta do another two miles!"
"It's gonna take you twenty miles to get rid of all that fat!"
"Too bad there's nothing you can do about all that fat between your ears!"


Really? You want him to talk to women the way guys talk to each other? He has enough problems as it is!

:roll:


Wow, we actually agree on something for a change.

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Agreed. I could not believe the things guys say to guys at a workplace. Really crude, insulting stuff. It amazes me because no women talk to others (of either gender) that way. It may differ in the military or on construction sites, but I've never worked there so I wouldn't know.


I hate "guy talk" and Bible Belt guy talk is the worst. It's usually toilet jokes, juvenile as well as penile boasting, racism, sexism, homophobia, and blatant as well as willful ignorance. My older brother and his ex-friends engaged in that crap and my mother's husband as well as his Bible Belt friends do the same. It angers me how they are the ones who got all the girlfriends as well as wives while I got left out in the cold.



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21 Sep 2018, 1:48 am

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Talk to them as if they were guys? Are you kidding? Did you ever even listen to how guys talk when they think there are no women around? ...

"Hey, butthead! You gonna hog that treadmill all day?"
"Shut the f*** up! I gotta do another two miles!"
"It's gonna take you twenty miles to get rid of all that fat!"
"Too bad there's nothing you can do about all that fat between your ears!"


Really? You want him to talk to women the way guys talk to each other? He has enough problems as it is!

:roll:


:D

You got me there...

... but that's NT guys, right? I'm guessing Mark's language would be a bit different.

(And apologies, Marknis, if I got the wrong impression from your original post about the friend not being gay. No offense intended)



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21 Sep 2018, 8:56 am

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Talk to them as if they were guys? Are you kidding? Did you ever even listen to how guys talk when they think there are no women around? ...

"Hey, butthead! You gonna hog that treadmill all day?"
"Shut the f*** up! I gotta do another two miles!"
"It's gonna take you twenty miles to get rid of all that fat!"
"Too bad there's nothing you can do about all that fat between your ears!"


Really? You want him to talk to women the way guys talk to each other? He has enough problems as it is!

:roll:
... but that's NT guys, right?
No, that's guys, with a full stop. We're all capable of using rough, rude, and crude language; and many of us consciously employ it on a daily basis just to "fit in" and avoid being marginalized as <* insert feminizing epithet here *>. I know guys with autism who language could literally make a sailor blush.


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22 Sep 2018, 1:37 am

No, I'm not accepting that, I think you're over-generalising.
Definitely Mark wouldn't talk like that. Pretty sure. He's too much of the sensitive type.



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22 Sep 2018, 2:04 am

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Talk to them as if they were guys? Are you kidding? Did you ever even listen to how guys talk when they think there are no women around? ...

"Hey, butthead! You gonna hog that treadmill all day?"
"Shut the f*** up! I gotta do another two miles!"
"It's gonna take you twenty miles to get rid of all that fat!"
"Too bad there's nothing you can do about all that fat between your ears!"


Really? You want him to talk to women the way guys talk to each other? He has enough problems as it is!

:roll:
... but that's NT guys, right?
No, that's guys, with a full stop. We're all capable of using rough, rude, and crude language; and many of us consciously employ it on a daily basis just to "fit in" and avoid being marginalized as <* insert feminizing epithet here *>. I know guys with autism who language could literally make a sailor blush.


I don't talk like that at all. I avoid being around the average males in the culture I live in and have no desire to fit in with them. Why would I after they called me "fa***t", "homo", "weirdo", "freak", and told me I was never going to "get laid"? They also love blasting Toby Keith or Kendrick Lamar depending on the demographic, playing only Call of Duty or GTA if they even play video games at all (Most of them think video games are "nerdy" or "gay"), watching movies like Friday and 8 Mile, getting drunk or strung out on smokes, getting orgasms to football games, and treating women like they are sex toys.



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22 Sep 2018, 1:00 pm

Well then, good for you! Rough language repels women -- this is not a strict rule, just enough of a tendency to make it very unlikely that any woman would be attracted to a foul-mouthed man.


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22 Sep 2018, 1:05 pm

Marknis wrote:
Fnord wrote:
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Talk to them as if they were guys? Are you kidding? Did you ever even listen to how guys talk when they think there are no women around? ...

"Hey, butthead! You gonna hog that treadmill all day?"
"Shut the f*** up! I gotta do another two miles!"
"It's gonna take you twenty miles to get rid of all that fat!"
"Too bad there's nothing you can do about all that fat between your ears!"


Really? You want him to talk to women the way guys talk to each other? He has enough problems as it is!

:roll:
... but that's NT guys, right?
No, that's guys, with a full stop. We're all capable of using rough, rude, and crude language; and many of us consciously employ it on a daily basis just to "fit in" and avoid being marginalized as <* insert feminizing epithet here *>. I know guys with autism who language could literally make a sailor blush.


I don't talk like that at all. I avoid being around the average males in the culture I live in and have no desire to fit in with them. Why would I after they called me "fa***t", "homo", "weirdo", "freak", and told me I was never going to "get laid"? They also love blasting Toby Keith or Kendrick Lamar depending on the demographic, playing only Call of Duty or GTA if they even play video games at all (Most of them think video games are "nerdy" or "gay"), watching movies like Friday and 8 Mile, getting drunk or strung out on smokes, getting orgasms to football games, and treating women like they are sex toys.

This may be a stupid question since I'm new around here and don't know your story, but why can't you leave the south?



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22 Sep 2018, 1:06 pm

^ Then how'd you get a wife. I know how foul-mouthed you Navy guys are. :wink:


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22 Sep 2018, 2:07 pm

Galeheart wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Fnord wrote:
MrsPeel wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Talk to them as if they were guys? Are you kidding? Did you ever even listen to how guys talk when they think there are no women around? ...

"Hey, butthead! You gonna hog that treadmill all day?"
"Shut the f*** up! I gotta do another two miles!"
"It's gonna take you twenty miles to get rid of all that fat!"
"Too bad there's nothing you can do about all that fat between your ears!"


Really? You want him to talk to women the way guys talk to each other? He has enough problems as it is!

:roll:
... but that's NT guys, right?
No, that's guys, with a full stop. We're all capable of using rough, rude, and crude language; and many of us consciously employ it on a daily basis just to "fit in" and avoid being marginalized as <* insert feminizing epithet here *>. I know guys with autism who language could literally make a sailor blush.


I don't talk like that at all. I avoid being around the average males in the culture I live in and have no desire to fit in with them. Why would I after they called me "fa***t", "homo", "weirdo", "freak", and told me I was never going to "get laid"? They also love blasting Toby Keith or Kendrick Lamar depending on the demographic, playing only Call of Duty or GTA if they even play video games at all (Most of them think video games are "nerdy" or "gay"), watching movies like Friday and 8 Mile, getting drunk or strung out on smokes, getting orgasms to football games, and treating women like they are sex toys.

This may be a stupid question since I'm new around here and don't know your story, but why can't you leave the south?


Low finances, overprotective and sometimes hostile family members, low self-esteem due to a past of being bullied as well as failing at what I wanted to become, no social connections beyond my area, and a depression that keeps me in a vicious cycle.

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Well then, good for you! Rough language repels women -- this is not a strict rule, just enough of a tendency to make it very unlikely that any woman would be attracted to a foul-mouthed man.


The only ones who put up with it are redneck, ghetto, and, surprisingly, Baptist women but I don't find any of those demographics attractive. There are some women in the punk and heavy metal subcultures who cuss but it's nowhere near as bad as ghetto hip-hop women who pretty much say a swear word every two words.



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22 Sep 2018, 2:26 pm

If you've been «diagnosed» (with anything), you probably qualify for so-called government-assistance, such as food-stamps, possibly social-security, etc. Surely you at least have enough $$$ to buy a tent, sleeping bag(s), blankets, that you could just move out and live on your own (whether you live in a car or pitch a tent out in the forest).

Swimming pools always have showers (and sometimes you can be lucky enough to find showers in other buildings), laundromats are commonplace (have a laundry bag), many places have Wi-Fi if you need Internet-access and own a laptop, limit your food-purchases to grocery stores (because you will surely run out of funds and starve if you're eating at fast-food or higher-tier restaurants; not to mention the fact that grocery stores have healthier choices -- just don't buy that sugary/caffeine-filled crap like Monster or other so-called energy-drinks or other forms of junk-foods), you can be more mobile to be able to move around the country and not be fixed to any one particular location, and there are plenty of libraries to visit at nearly every town across the whole entire country.

P.S.: So-called «failure» is nothing more than a figment of your imagination. They're only temporary set-backs.

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Low finances, overprotective and sometimes hostile family members, low self-esteem due to a past of being bullied as well as failing at what I wanted to become, no social connections beyond my area, and a depression that keeps me in a vicious cycle.


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22 Sep 2018, 4:19 pm

Marknis wrote:
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Fnord wrote:
MrsPeel wrote:
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Talk to them as if they were guys? Are you kidding? Did you ever even listen to how guys talk when they think there are no women around? ...

"Hey, butthead! You gonna hog that treadmill all day?"
"Shut the f*** up! I gotta do another two miles!"
"It's gonna take you twenty miles to get rid of all that fat!"
"Too bad there's nothing you can do about all that fat between your ears!"


Really? You want him to talk to women the way guys talk to each other? He has enough problems as it is!

:roll:
... but that's NT guys, right?
No, that's guys, with a full stop. We're all capable of using rough, rude, and crude language; and many of us consciously employ it on a daily basis just to "fit in" and avoid being marginalized as <* insert feminizing epithet here *>. I know guys with autism who language could literally make a sailor blush.


I don't talk like that at all. I avoid being around the average males in the culture I live in and have no desire to fit in with them. Why would I after they called me "fa***t", "homo", "weirdo", "freak", and told me I was never going to "get laid"? They also love blasting Toby Keith or Kendrick Lamar depending on the demographic, playing only Call of Duty or GTA if they even play video games at all (Most of them think video games are "nerdy" or "gay"), watching movies like Friday and 8 Mile, getting drunk or strung out on smokes, getting orgasms to football games, and treating women like they are sex toys.

This may be a stupid question since I'm new around here and don't know your story, but why can't you leave the south?


Low finances, overprotective and sometimes hostile family members, low self-esteem due to a past of being bullied as well as failing at what I wanted to become, no social connections beyond my area, and a depression that keeps me in a vicious cycle.


Ah, sorry to hear. What did you want to be? And why is your failure at that absolute?



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22 Sep 2018, 5:48 pm

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If you've been «diagnosed» (with anything), you probably qualify for so-called government-assistance, such as food-stamps, possibly social-security, etc. Surely you at least have enough $$$ to buy a tent, sleeping bag(s), blankets, that you could just move out and live on your own (whether you live in a car or pitch a tent out in the forest).

Swimming pools always have showers (and sometimes you can be lucky enough to find showers in other buildings), laundromats are commonplace (have a laundry bag), many places have Wi-Fi if you need Internet-access and own a laptop, limit your food-purchases to grocery stores (because you will surely run out of funds and starve if you're eating at fast-food or higher-tier restaurants; not to mention the fact that grocery stores have healthier choices -- just don't buy that sugary/caffeine-filled crap like Monster or other so-called energy-drinks or other forms of junk-foods), you can be more mobile to be able to move around the country and not be fixed to any one particular location, and there are plenty of libraries to visit at nearly every town across the whole entire country.

P.S.: So-called «failure» is nothing more than a figment of your imagination. They're only temporary set-backs.

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Low finances, overprotective and sometimes hostile family members, low self-esteem due to a past of being bullied as well as failing at what I wanted to become, no social connections beyond my area, and a depression that keeps me in a vicious cycle.


Wow suggesting he become homeless
I’d think the few homeless people here would suggest against that. I don’t even think you can get benefits without an address. I’ll never willing become homeless



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22 Sep 2018, 7:19 pm

^^^Also it's alot easier to get a woman when you're living in a home/house/apartment ect instead of on the streets, in a car, in a tent, or in a shelter.


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Then how'd you get a wife. I know how foul-mouthed you Navy guys are.
By treating her like a person, and not just the finest-looking and most intelligent filipina on the island! I listened to her, told her what I liked about her, and began to court her in the way that women of her culture expect (and demand) from a gentleman (and that both men and women of our culture seem to have forgotten).


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Well then, good for you! Rough language repels women -- this is not a strict rule, just enough of a tendency to make it very unlikely that any woman would be attracted to a foul-mouthed man.
The only ones who put up with it are redneck, ghetto, and, surprisingly, Baptist women but I don't find any of those demographics attractive. There are some women in the punk and heavy metal subcultures who cuss but it's nowhere near as bad as ghetto hip-hop women who pretty much say a swear word every two words.
Well, there are exceptions. But I have to tell you even those "ghetto hip-hop" women you mentioned eventually get tired of the it. The contempt and violence that is implied behind such language will eventually show through.

(How many hip-hop artists have been victims of violence? How many have been the perpetrators of violence?)

Now, I'm not saying that swearing should be abolished. Because sometimes, under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer (I'm quoting Mark Twain here). It's just that if you're out there trying to impress someone, unless their own language is on the blue side, you would be better off to refrain from even the occasional "damn".


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22 Sep 2018, 9:01 pm

So-called homelessness is but a state-of-mind; he's obviously not happy where he is NOW. I am just pointing out some «mind-expanding» concepts that he expand his potential home-territory to include the entire earth (a «God-granted» RIGHT by the way), even if he has not picked nor decided upon a specific location for settlement.

Once he can get over the basic challenges, then it becomes grounds for expansion-development, like registering with employment-agencies that have branches in every state (possibly every country) so that he can work towards a better life-style. Nobody said it would necessarily be easy but difficult does not make it impossible.

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Wow suggesting he become homeless
I’d think the few homeless people here would suggest against that. I don’t even think you can get benefits without an address. I’ll never willing become homeless


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