“I’m looking for men who aren’t trash” what’s that mean?

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19 Dec 2018, 7:05 pm

I sit at home every night watching TV, chatting online or playing video games. i am not going to change and have accepted my position in life. i have nothing to offer and no need to go out to risk humiliation of rejection and defeat. i am too old now, maybe if i was in my 20s i may have had a better chance but not now! Giving up has always been the easiest route it reduces stress/anxiety. Talking to people that I do not know only adds to my paranoia, increases my stress/anxiety and triggers panic attacks. Social anxiety is not easy to deal with and I have found using avoidance helps cut out stress/anxiety.



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19 Dec 2018, 7:07 pm

Women go to college and graduate far more then men, this is why NYC has more women then men as more women can afford to live there then men.

Then there’s the simple math if you have 100 women, 100 men and only 80 jobs how can you expect all 100 men to have jobs?



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19 Dec 2018, 7:08 pm

Still....you're not a "lesser" man.

I NEVER use statistics when I think about finding love. And I never have previously. Even in my most desperate days.



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19 Dec 2018, 7:10 pm

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Women didn’t have to work in the 30s.
Single women did.


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19 Dec 2018, 7:11 pm

Yep. They certainly did.

And their occupational options were limited in the 1930s.



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19 Dec 2018, 7:12 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Goddamit!

I'm not a "lesser" man because I'm just a clerk.

I'm not a "lesser" man because I'm 5 foot 5.

I'm not a "lesser" man because I didn't get my drivers license until I was 37.

I'm not a "lesser" man because I'm autistic.

AND YOU'RE NOT A "LESSER" MAN, EITHER....unless you're a criminal or something....

Enough of this alpha/beta/gamma crap!! ! !


No ones ever said you are
Clerk jobs pay well thus you’re a real man.
Mean it pays enough you can live in one of the most expensive cities in the world. Most men can’t thus you have way more women then men, probably why it was easy for you to get dates and sex.
No woman would grab a guy off the bus here for sex.

Most people in NYC don’t own cars thus don’t have licenses, subway and walking is what most New Yorkers use it’s the norm.
Here you’d been deemed a loser as most everyone owns a car and drives, people
Who use the bus are shamed, insulted, called losers or worse.

There’s real men and then theirs the others
1/3 of men are real men and dateable the rest are sub human to most women. Don’t even get on their radar, don’t even exist according to a lot of them



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19 Dec 2018, 7:14 pm

You have a license, Sly. And that can't be taken away---unless you do something stupid like drive drunk or not pay child support.



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19 Dec 2018, 7:17 pm

sly279 wrote:
Women go to college and graduate far more then men, this is why NYC has more women then men as more women can afford to live there then men.

Then there’s the simple math if you have 100 women, 100 men and only 80 jobs how can you expect all 100 men to have jobs?


There is not enough low end jobs for the men to do as technology replaces manual labour roles. Men are known for being physically strong, they are not known for their intelligence. Women are more known for their intelligence than being physically strong. Women have the intelligence to study degrees and get the higher paying professional jobs that require college degrees. Fewer men are graduating from colleges and fewer men are being hired in professional jobs because they are not qualified for the jobs. Women prefer dating men that have higher paying jobs and more status. Men with no jobs are undateable. Unemployable men = undateable men!



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19 Dec 2018, 7:18 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
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Women didn’t have to work in the 30s.
Single women did.

Read a history book
Single women lived with their family until they were married off, often at 13-17 years old.
Their parents would go on their dates too. Arranged marriages were the norm.
A guy could get a wife for some pigs and money aka a dowry.
That’s why women wanted to work so bad so they could be independent and live on their own , decide who to marry on their own. Before that women weren’t allowed to work it. Very few people would hire women.
You married youn, lost half your kids and died young. 30-40 was the normal life span
Meaning you hade about 15-20 years of life after 13 to do as much as you could. I’d be near death if I was alive pre 1920s
Medical technology wasn’t anything like it was now.
I really don’t get why you’re trying to belittle women’s fight to be able to work as if it didn’t happen and no women wanted to work.



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19 Dec 2018, 7:21 pm

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You have a license, Sly. And that can't be taken away---unless you do something stupid like drive drunk or not pay child support.

Or I can’t afford it or they require people take driving test to renew.
And it’s worthless expense anyways.
It wasn’t about driving
It’s about a mans income and owning a car shows you have good income.
If two people go out together only one needs to drive. If I owned few cars and had no license I’d be dateable



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19 Dec 2018, 7:24 pm

That's the way it USUALLY was-----for a middle to upper class woman.

Women who came from working-class backgrounds usually had to work for a living before finding a husband. They had to work to support their families (mom, dad, brothers, sisters, maybe grandparents). That was pretty much taken for granted.

My mother, about 1950 or 1951, had to drop out of high school to go work for the Post Office so she can help out with her mother's bills.

Usually, though, once they got married, they had to "take care of the house." My mother got married to my father in 1953. Until about 1970, she was a housewife.

In the early 20th century, many women worked in factories. Many women went to typing school to become secretaries. In both World Wars, women had a more varied choice as to which jobs to take than during peace time.



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19 Dec 2018, 7:30 pm

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Women go to college and graduate far more then men, this is why NYC has more women then men as more women can afford to live there then men.
But why?


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19 Dec 2018, 7:34 pm

I think it's partially because boys/men get into stupid stuff like drugs and alcohol and just "hanging out"; whereas girls/woman are more serious in high school, and know they might have kids, so they don't do drugs, drink alcohol, and "hang out" as much as men do.

They keep up the academic momentum in high school, so they are more prepared for college than men sometimes.

However....there are plenty of men in college, too.



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19 Dec 2018, 7:37 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
That's the way it USUALLY was-----for a middle to upper class woman.

Women who came from working-class backgrounds usually had to work for a living before finding a husband. They had to work to support their families (mom, dad, brothers, sisters, maybe grandparents). That was pretty much taken for granted.

My mother, about 1950 or 1951, had to drop out of high school to go work for the Post Office so she can help out with her mother's bills.

Usually, though, once they got married, they had to "take care of the house." My mother got married to my father in 1953. Until about 1970, she was a housewife.

In the early 20th century, many women worked in factories. Many women went to typing school to become secretaries. In both World Wars, women had a more varied choice as to which jobs to take than during peace time.


That’s well after the women’s rights movement for women the right to work and vote.
Pre 1930s society banned women from
Working so honwiuld the have worked?
Did they work on family’s farms yes, did some work in sewing factories yes but most could t work they certainly could do much jobs except sewing and being a sectary
It was rare, he se why first wave feminism had to fight for that right.
That’s a important part of history if it wasn’t for that most women today wouldn’t be working
You can forget equal pay.
It’s the only feminism I support.
But women never adjusted to that means more men can’t work.
Women take up over half of the workforce so that leaves a lot of men out of a job non less a well paid job most women expect men to have



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19 Dec 2018, 7:39 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I think it's partially because boys/men get into stupid stuff like drugs and alcohol and just "hanging out"; whereas girls/woman are more serious in high school, and know they might have kids, so they don't do drugs, drink alcohol, and "hang out" as much as men do.

They keep up the academic momentum in high school, so they are more prepared for college than men sometimes.

However....there are plenty of men in college, too.

Women do all that just as much as men
Education system is geared towards how women learn not how men learn.
It didn’t use to be and women fell behind so it was changed now most men fall behind and most people don’t care except to b***h about how there’s no real men and how men are just stupid and lazy



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19 Dec 2018, 7:41 pm

Many women worked in the late 19th/early 20th century. Their occupational options were limited. Many HAD to work; otherwise, they and their family would starve.

Many single women also stayed in woman-only lodging housing back then---before they got married.

Women weren't "banned" from working. They were "banned" from such professional jobs as doctor and lawyer---though there were a few woman doctors even back then.