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27 Dec 2018, 1:06 pm

And sure, there are women who will marry men who have relatively less money, but only to a degree. A woman with a net worth of $200K might marry a man whose net worth is only $198K, but you will never see her with a man who is on welfare or making minimum wage.

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27 Dec 2018, 1:38 pm

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It is very unlikely that you will ever see any woman of means entering into a "rescue marriage" with a man of no means at all.

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27 Dec 2018, 2:08 pm

My wife has a net worth of about 250K. I have a net worth of less than zero. I'm in debt, though I have a pension coming to me when I retire.

Ideology is going to screw you every time. Why doesn't that "close friend" of yours introduce you to some women? Maybe some of these women have financial difficulties, too? But have jobs but are pretty and sweet women, nevertheless. They have other virtues other being rich.

With the way you're thinking, you have NO chance.

If you would dispense with that thinking, you would have more of a chance, though it would be difficult.

There are MANY people in this country who are in student loan debt. And I mean MANY. Men and women. And credit card debt. Most people just live paycheck to paycheck in the US, and in most/all countries of the world. Yes, it's because of our debt-ridden society.

No....a woman making 200K, or 198K or whatever is not likely to "rescue" someone who is unemployed. But there are many women working minimum wage jobs who would be willing to share resources with a man making minimum wage. Especially in the southern part of the US, two minimum-wage earning people can make a go of it fairly well.

How many women do you know make $200K a year?

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27 Dec 2018, 2:14 pm

sly279 wrote:

XFilesGeek wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

I'm not MOST of these things----and I've done all right :ninja:

I make way under a six-figure salary.

I don't have a "six pack."

I'm way under 6 feet tall.

I don't have a 600 horsepower car. How many people do?

I might have been more than six months out of a relationship a few times in the past.

As far as "below the belt," it's average. Maybe six inches.

I don't have a "sixth sense."

In the real world, average people hook-up with average people, and the world continues to rotate.

But to some, mostly the socially maladroit set, dating sites and trashy internet articles have become "reality." It's sad.

In the past maybe
In today’s reality most people have this or similar lists and so over half the USA population is single. Far more then in the past.
People keep hoping to find that perfect guy or perfect girl that never comes along cause they themselves aren’t perfect.

Just like people who’ve been unemployed for tens of years cause their waiting for the perfect job.

No.

I've worked many "menial" jobs, and most everybody I worked with, the men included, had relationships. And being "single" does not mean that people aren't hooking-up.

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27 Dec 2018, 2:35 pm

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No.

I've worked many "menial" jobs, and most everybody I worked with, the men included, had relationships.

Same. Some of them more than one relationship going at the same time.

I've also been around a lot of guys who don't work at all, particularly when I was a bar maid, and they were mostly

in relationships most of the time. No, they weren't good looking or rich. They were mostly in bad nick and a bad

risk, but they were also sociable.

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27 Dec 2018, 2:44 pm

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I earned that, and I spent several years with a guy who made the equivalent of $30K.
I guess I'm a loser.

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27 Dec 2018, 2:47 pm

No...you're a lady who doesn't believe the hype!! !! !! !

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27 Dec 2018, 2:47 pm

magnetowasright wrote:

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:

magnetowasright wrote:

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Then don't tell them generalisations.

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The rich often go further into debt than the "non-rich", because they feel entitled to having the best of everything. Then, their marriages implode and they get a cold, hard wake-up call about divorce costs, child support, alimony and debt repayment which often includes bankruptcy.

Generalization is usually based on something common, but what she is saying is not even common or based on any stats.

Losing money due to divorce can happen to any class.

But only to one sex.

Most often but it's not a rule. If you married and divorced a rich woman for instance, you probably wouldn't be the one losing out

And when has a rich woman ever married a poor man? Women are naturally hypergamous. It would never happen.

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Which sex is that? I've seen both partners devastated by divorce, rich and poor alike, men and women alike.

In general. But when talking strictly about financial loss, the man is always the loser and the woman is always the winner.

This is not true.

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27 Dec 2018, 2:50 pm

magnetowasright wrote:

IsabellaLinton wrote:

magnetowasright wrote:

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:

magnetowasright wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

hurtloam wrote:

Then don't tell them generalisations.

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Generalization is usually based on something common, but what she is saying is not even common or based on any stats.

Losing money due to divorce can happen to any class.

But only to one sex.

Most often but it's not a rule. If you married and divorced a rich woman for instance, you probably wouldn't be the one losing out

And when has a rich woman ever married a poor man? Women are naturally hypergamous. It would never happen.

IsabellaLinton wrote:

Which sex is that? I've seen both partners devastated by divorce, rich and poor alike, men and women alike.

In general. But when talking strictly about financial loss, the man is always the loser and the woman is always the winner.

Always? Really?
Do you know any single mothers, for example, or see how they struggle to have custody or provide for their children?

Do you know the legal costs for either parent?

That being said, I know many single fathers who have trouble providing for their children as well.

The system is terrible at collecting child support whether from mothers or fathers, or supporting children in general.

It's a lose-lose proposition to get divorced. There are no winners.

If divorce was equally damaging for all parties, then our society would not have the astronomically high divorce rate it has. And if women were not benefitting from divorce on average, the majority of divorces would not be initiated by women.

Women are fed lines by their lawyers so they will retain counsel.
They drink the kool-aid until they go up against men with more money for lawyers.
Then, they realise how foolish it has been when they get the bill.

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27 Dec 2018, 3:03 pm

magnetowasright wrote:

IsabellaLinton wrote:

magnetowasright wrote:

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:

magnetowasright wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

hurtloam wrote:

Then don't tell them generalisations.

Quote:

Generalization is usually based on something common, but what she is saying is not even common or based on any stats.

Losing money due to divorce can happen to any class.

But only to one sex.

Most often but it's not a rule. If you married and divorced a rich woman for instance, you probably wouldn't be the one losing out

And when has a rich woman ever married a poor man? Women are naturally hypergamous. It would never happen.

IsabellaLinton wrote:

Which sex is that? I've seen both partners devastated by divorce, rich and poor alike, men and women alike.

In general. But when talking strictly about financial loss, the man is always the loser and the woman is always the winner.

Some of the benefits to women are not financial. Its not getting the crap beat out of you regularly, or not having your husband bring home all kind of diseases that he picked up from the other woman. That’s why women initiate divorce.

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27 Dec 2018, 3:06 pm

AnneOleson wrote:

magnetowasright wrote:

IsabellaLinton wrote:

magnetowasright wrote:

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:

magnetowasright wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

hurtloam wrote:

Then don't tell them generalisations.

Quote:

Generalization is usually based on something common, but what she is saying is not even common or based on any stats.

Losing money due to divorce can happen to any class.

But only to one sex.

Most often but it's not a rule. If you married and divorced a rich woman for instance, you probably wouldn't be the one losing out

And when has a rich woman ever married a poor man? Women are naturally hypergamous. It would never happen.

IsabellaLinton wrote:

Which sex is that? I've seen both partners devastated by divorce, rich and poor alike, men and women alike.

In general. But when talking strictly about financial loss, the man is always the loser and the woman is always the winner.

Bless! And, likewise for the men who leave abusive women. Money is only one part of a marriage.

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27 Dec 2018, 3:28 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

I earned that, and I spent several years with a guy who made the equivalent of $30K.
I guess I'm a loser.

What are you? A brain surgeon?

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27 Dec 2018, 3:34 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

IsabellaLinton wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

I earned that, and I spent several years with a guy who made the equivalent of $30K.
I guess I'm a loser.

What are you? A brain surgeon?

No, just a communist and inverted snob I suppose.

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27 Dec 2018, 3:40 pm

What happen. I feel asleep. Are we on divorce now? Hypergamy? I can't keep up.

Well a quick Google shows women do tend to initiate divorce.

Women are usually seen as the main packhorse in the home. Who cleans the house, makes the dinner, buys the groceries, does most of the childcare, has to organise the emotional work of getting extended family together? It's exhausting. Especially if you have a spouse who doesn't want to help. Especially if you both work full time in office jobs with similar work levels and only the wife is expected to be the housewife on top of that.

When the romance has died and the man is quite comfortable in his ways and doesn't care about the little things anymore.

It's so much more freeing to be single. Not that I've had much interest, but I don't want to be someone's carer.

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27 Dec 2018, 3:54 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

IsabellaLinton wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

I earned that, and I spent several years with a guy who made the equivalent of $30K.
I guess I'm a loser.

What are you? A brain surgeon?

No, just a communist and inverted snob I suppose.

So you’re not a birdbrain after all.

Are you single? I won’t divorce you, I swear!
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27 Dec 2018, 3:59 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

IsabellaLinton wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

IsabellaLinton wrote:

Oh dear God. I'm not a commie.
This is out of hand.

Oh so you do believe in God, that means you’re no commie.

I'm an active member of the Anglican church and I give a significant amount to charity.
But, saying that, I'll be labelled worse than commie.

...

I am poor. Gimme money.

You’re middle class in USA. I’m working poor I think. Or upper poor? There’s no real subgroups for anyone below middle class.

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