Bigotry against involuntarily celibate men

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Well, it was not my intention to imply that regarding fluffy. I was talking about mainstream neurotypical women, as they are the only ones I have any realistic opportunity to meet. I did mean to include Aspie outliers like Fluffy in what I said.

Socially awkward individuals on the Spectrum are a different matter. Personally, I do not know any women that I can at least be certain are on the spectrum. The closest I can think of is someone I knew in college. She was very shy and withdrawn, and I only met her because we did work-study in the same department. We'd sometimes eat lunch together. I remember she'd often enthusiastically be telling me all about How I Met Your Mother or her favorite Star Wars novels and not much else, and I didn't know what to say back. We're still FB friends, but we never really got to actually know each other. In my experience, most of the close friends I have had in my life have been extroverts. It seems much more difficult for two introverts to just start talking to each other.

Thank you for explaining.

You might know one of us without realising, I am not shy and do not come across as socially awkward. I have

tended to get on best with confident people too. I think this is because when I say/do something they don't like

they tell me where as other people go quiet and then I don't know what went wrong

For incels, it's not about sex. It's about women.

It really is a tragedy that these men are cheering any murderer on, and that they've scapegoated women as a group to be responsible for their grievances within their sex/love lives, and are thus wishing evil to be stricken upon them. I'm torn with all this incel stuff, because as a man who has his own grievances with his inability to get into a relationship, I empathise with them and I know just how much damage it can do to you psychologically, but by the same token, I would never dream of pointing the finger at women and blaming them for my inability to get a relationship, let alone vilifying them to the point that I'm cheering on other sexually fristrated men to go murder them. This really is a messed up state of affairs with no winners

It’s a cult.

Yep. The only cult in the world within which every member desperately wants to leave

I don’t know many women in person,
I don’t have any friends especially female friends nor do I want any in person female friends.
This lady at work claims to be a undiagnosed aspie.
She’s not shy at all from what I’ve seen.

incels aren't dangerous. it's the media

10 People were killed in my city (and a couple dozen more injured) this past year by a self-proclaimed incel. Then there was the yoga studio shooter, and Elliot Rodger, and George Sodini, etc. etc. etc.

Incels can definitely be dangerous, even deadly. How many shootings/murder sprees are journalists known to have gone on?

Why would she claim to be an undiagnosed Aspie----if she isn't?

That's not something people would exactly advertise.

An apologist for gender-based terrorism, eh?

I think we are at cross wires again over the meaning of the term incel. Does it mean all involuntary celibate males or

just the the ones who hate and blame women.

I would say it’s the latter, these days.

^Was the more general meaning the original one and then it got taken over?

I'd never herd the term at all before I joined WP.

I heard of “involuntary Celibacy” before. Though rarely. Never shortened to “Incel.”

But I also first saw “incel” here. Just like I first saw “meh” here.

“Incel” in a WP context always meant those idiots who hate women and have given up on love. And who have an iron-clad ideology. And who talk about variously-colored “pills.”

The first time I heard Incel was when a young woman near my hometown was brutally murdered on the street, during her lunch hour. I had no idea what an Incel was but could only compare it to Marc Lépine and the Montréal Massacre of fourteen young female engineers in 1989. I did not know what "Incel" was short for.

WP was the first time I realised "Incel" was short for involuntarily celibate. I am involuntarily celibate. Does that make me an Incel? Far from it, because there is a connotation to the word which evokes horror. The word certainly implies rage and a desire to retaliate.