Looks And Dating
IsabellaLinton wrote:
I haven't read this whole thread, but it seems to be a familiar theme. Correct me if I'm wrong. Is this thread saying that women, by virtue of having vaginas, can date any man they want and that they will, therefore, choose the most attractive among those hoards of potential suitors? Just checking.
No, Isabella. This thread is saying that, man or woman, if your level of physical attractiveness reaches a certain low point where no one or almost no one can be physically attracted to you, nothing else about you will be able to make up for it, generally speaking.
kraftiekortie wrote:
But why do you think you don’t have that capacity?
I’ve seen your picture. I don’t see anything “wrong” with you. You seem like some bearded guy.
I’ve seen your picture. I don’t see anything “wrong” with you. You seem like some bearded guy.
Honestly, I don't really know whether I'm in the category of being so physically unattractive that no one could want to be with me. I would go so far as to say that I suspect that probably isn't the case, at least not intrinsically.
I very much doubt that my looks have had no bearing on my lack of dating experience, though.
XFilesGeek wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
I haven't read this whole thread, but it seems to be a familiar theme. Correct me if I'm wrong. Is this thread saying that women, by virtue of having vaginas, can date any man they want and that they will, therefore, choose the most attractive among those hoards of potential suitors? Just checking.
The vibe I get from threads like this is you have average-to-below-average looking guys who are upset that they're not considered "hot," and thereby have to exert actual effort to get female attention as opposed to having women just throw themselves at them.
As the OP, I'm going to tell you that that's an unfair characterisation of this thread. The emphasis here is on the bottom percentage, as it relates to physical attractiveness, and their inability to get partners, not the top percentage and their ability to get partners. It's not even specifically about men's attractiveness to women. Women can have the same problems with men.
I have exerted plenty of effort to get a relationship, and the skewed ratio of negative experiences vs positive experiences I've had makes it very difficult to believe that I'm in the average range of looks. I'm sure it's not just looks that is the problem, but they're very clearly a contributing factor.
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
I haven't read this whole thread, but it seems to be a familiar theme. Correct me if I'm wrong. Is this thread saying that women, by virtue of having vaginas, can date any man they want and that they will, therefore, choose the most attractive among those hoards of potential suitors? Just checking.
The vibe I get from threads like this is you have average-to-below-average looking guys who are upset that they're not considered "hot," and thereby have to exert actual effort to get female attention as opposed to having women just throw themselves at them.
As the OP, I'm going to tell you that that's an unfair characterisation of this thread. The emphasis here is on the bottom percentage, as it relates to physical attractiveness, and their inability to get partners, not the top percentage and their ability to get partners. It's not even specifically about men's attractiveness to women. Women can have the same problems with men.
I have exerted plenty of effort to get a relationship, and the skewed ratio of negative experiences vs positive experiences I've had makes it very difficult to believe that I'm in the average range of looks. I'm sure it's not just looks that is the problem, but they're very clearly a contributing factor.
I'm sorry if you read it that way TGI. I wasn't trying to malign you. I know you didn't say those words or even intend that interpretation. I only asked because I'm bad at reading between the lines at overall themes, or catching general insinuation whether it's there or not. I've seen a lot of that belief in other threads and I wanted to know if there was a subtext in any of the comments here. I hadn't read the whole thread or even seen your video. I apologise if it hurt your feelings because I wasn't criticising you. There has just been a lot of rhetoric in the media and on WP about women having more authority in selecting partners than men. I don't usually get political, or get into gender discussions, so I apologise again for feeling a little touchy today.
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kraftiekortie wrote:
You overthink all this. I know from experience.
I used to do the same thing.
Then, I said “screw it.” Things got better from there.
I used to do the same thing.
Then, I said “screw it.” Things got better from there.
I pretty much view it as that I look about average. And since almost everyone falls within normal range within average I am probably not too far off the mark.
I believe looks could be a gatekeeping factor but most likely only for extreme cases. People with extremely inflated expectations will gatekeep normal looking people. Normal people may gatekeep extremely far below average looks. From what I have observed, personality, social skills and other factors matter more.
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IsabellaLinton wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
I haven't read this whole thread, but it seems to be a familiar theme. Correct me if I'm wrong. Is this thread saying that women, by virtue of having vaginas, can date any man they want and that they will, therefore, choose the most attractive among those hoards of potential suitors? Just checking.
The vibe I get from threads like this is you have average-to-below-average looking guys who are upset that they're not considered "hot," and thereby have to exert actual effort to get female attention as opposed to having women just throw themselves at them.
As the OP, I'm going to tell you that that's an unfair characterisation of this thread. The emphasis here is on the bottom percentage, as it relates to physical attractiveness, and their inability to get partners, not the top percentage and their ability to get partners. It's not even specifically about men's attractiveness to women. Women can have the same problems with men.
I have exerted plenty of effort to get a relationship, and the skewed ratio of negative experiences vs positive experiences I've had makes it very difficult to believe that I'm in the average range of looks. I'm sure it's not just looks that is the problem, but they're very clearly a contributing factor.
I'm sorry if you read it that way TGI. I wasn't trying to malign you. I know you didn't say those words or even intend that interpretation. I only asked because I'm bad at reading between the lines at overall themes, or catching general insinuation whether it's there or not. I've seen a lot of that belief in other threads and I wanted to know if there was a subtext in any of the comments here. I hadn't read the whole thread or even seen your video. I apologise if it hurt your feelings because I wasn't criticising you. There has just been a lot of rhetoric in the media and on WP about women having more authority in selecting partners than men. I don't usually get political, or get into gender discussions, so I apologise again for feeling a little touchy today.
Don't worry, Isabella, I'm not mad or hurt by anything that has been said here. The response you've quoted was for XFG. I replied to you a few comments above the one you quoted.
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
I haven't read this whole thread, but it seems to be a familiar theme. Correct me if I'm wrong. Is this thread saying that women, by virtue of having vaginas, can date any man they want and that they will, therefore, choose the most attractive among those hoards of potential suitors? Just checking.
The vibe I get from threads like this is you have average-to-below-average looking guys who are upset that they're not considered "hot," and thereby have to exert actual effort to get female attention as opposed to having women just throw themselves at them.
As the OP, I'm going to tell you that that's an unfair characterisation of this thread. The emphasis here is on the bottom percentage, as it relates to physical attractiveness, and their inability to get partners, not the top percentage and their ability to get partners. It's not even specifically about men's attractiveness to women. Women can have the same problems with men.
I have exerted plenty of effort to get a relationship, and the skewed ratio of negative experiences vs positive experiences I've had makes it very difficult to believe that I'm in the average range of looks. I'm sure it's not just looks that is the problem, but they're very clearly a contributing factor.
I'm sorry if you read it that way TGI. I wasn't trying to malign you. I know you didn't say those words or even intend that interpretation. I only asked because I'm bad at reading between the lines at overall themes, or catching general insinuation whether it's there or not. I've seen a lot of that belief in other threads and I wanted to know if there was a subtext in any of the comments here. I hadn't read the whole thread or even seen your video. I apologise if it hurt your feelings because I wasn't criticising you. There has just been a lot of rhetoric in the media and on WP about women having more authority in selecting partners than men. I don't usually get political, or get into gender discussions, so I apologise again for feeling a little touchy today.
Don't worry, Isabella, I'm not mad or hurt by anything that has been said here. The response you've quoted was for XFG. I replied to you a few comments above the one you quoted.
Thanks for understanding. It was one of those days. I'm tired of hearing rhetoric that suggests because women have a vagina, they automatically have the golden ticket to happy relationships, or picking the partner of their dreams from an unlimited playing field. It isn't that way, as I hope we all know. I didn't know if that was the subtext of this thread. In reality it is just as hard for women to find good partners as it is for men. Sorry if I derailed or jumped the gun.

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
My advice to XFG: if such threads annoy you, then you can always skip them.
Easy, no?
Easy, no?

Boo always cutting through the waffle

On a serious note NT girls looks are important in as much as your perceived value should be at least equal to theirs or slightly better. For a male there's an algorithm which is a function of your looks can be directly compensated by your financial income. For a male as your income increases your level of attractiveness can go down accordingly.

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cyberdad wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
My advice to XFG: if such threads annoy you, then you can always skip them.
Easy, no?
Easy, no?

Boo always cutting through the waffle

On a serious note NT girls looks are important in as much as your perceived value should be at least equal to theirs or slightly better. For a male there's an algorithm which is a function of your looks can be directly compensated by your financial income. For a male as your income increases your level of attractiveness can go down accordingly.

Does she sexually fantasize about him in her wet thoughts tho?
I bet not.
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
My advice to XFG: if such threads annoy you, then you can always skip them.
Easy, no?
Easy, no?

Boo always cutting through the waffle

On a serious note NT girls looks are important in as much as your perceived value should be at least equal to theirs or slightly better. For a male there's an algorithm which is a function of your looks can be directly compensated by your financial income. For a male as your income increases your level of attractiveness can go down accordingly.

Does she sexually fantasize about him in her wet thoughts tho?
I bet not.
Pretty sure Weinstein couldn't care. He wasn't desperate (as the media claim) he had young girls throwing themselves at him because he was a) filthy rich and b) famous. He got so used to having his way that he abused his power and thought if he felt like sleeping with any actress he would just take her. Hence why he got in trouble.
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