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14 Oct 2019, 3:34 pm

Do people look at their numbers of % in matches? I was wondering this.



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14 Oct 2019, 9:19 pm

Probably not too much, at least for guys PoV. I haven't tried Tinder yet but some friends use it. They told me they just swipe right on everyone without paying actual attention, trying for like a few hundred swipes in a week then just see who responds and then going from there. I assume there's a distance setting to limit who can appear to being people who live somewhat close by rather than 1000 miles away or on another continent.

Personally I think the raw % is likely to be lower in an app compared to meeting people IRL, although this is offset by seeing a lot of options. To me the interface of these apps and the websites can make me think "online shopping" where people are likely to get into a mindset of looking for exactly what they'd want. It's an unrealistic mindset for dating IMO since it's not like say purchasing a computer or a new car where you can customize every detail to your liking. We of course can't customize people, we can have preferences but if too specific/narrow/limiting then we just might find that no one exists who both fulfills the criteria and is interested in us. Real life requires compromise, and I think this feels more evident in face to face interactions than an app. Not to say the app is invalid but just that things will be different and feel different.

It's a bit of a strange concept to me because I don't "evaluate" for attractiveness/dating eligibility until I have reason to do so. I feel no reason to do so unless I see signs of interest from them first. And I purposely try not to be like "they need to be blonde/X" tall/do Y for a living/ be interested in Z" because life is too unpredictable.


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14 Oct 2019, 10:21 pm

SSJ4_PrestonGarvey wrote:
Probably not too much, at least for guys PoV. I haven't tried Tinder yet but some friends use it. They told me they just swipe right on everyone without paying actual attention, trying for like a few hundred swipes in a week then just see who responds and then going from there. I assume there's a distance setting to limit who can appear to being people who live somewhat close by rather than 1000 miles away or on another continent.

Personally I think the raw % is likely to be lower in an app compared to meeting people IRL, although this is offset by seeing a lot of options. To me the interface of these apps and the websites can make me think "online shopping" where people are likely to get into a mindset of looking for exactly what they'd want. It's an unrealistic mindset for dating IMO since it's not like say purchasing a computer or a new car where you can customize every detail to your liking. We of course can't customize people, we can have preferences but if too specific/narrow/limiting then we just might find that no one exists who both fulfills the criteria and is interested in us. Real life requires compromise, and I think this feels more evident in face to face interactions than an app. Not to say the app is invalid but just that things will be different and feel different.

It's a bit of a strange concept to me because I don't "evaluate" for attractiveness/dating eligibility until I have reason to do so. I feel no reason to do so unless I see signs of interest from them first. And I purposely try not to be like "they need to be blonde/X" tall/do Y for a living/ be interested in Z" because life is too unpredictable.


Do you know if Tinder a hookup site? I’m on OkCupid.



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14 Oct 2019, 11:05 pm

it's a lightweight dating app for phones. I think profiles are like 100 words or less and 1 picture. You make a profile then can try for matches. Swipe right=Interested, swipe left=Not interested. If people swipe right on yours then they show up as interested in you, if you swipe theirs right too then I think it allows chat.

I will probably use Tinder over dating sites since I hear there's problems with fake accounts, apparently some of the sites made a bunch of fake accounts to try to get more people to pay for membership. I doubt there's match percentage or interested percentage shown since it would discourage people a lot if they see low number.


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14 Oct 2019, 11:53 pm

Swiping right on all is the worst strategy and will drop your ELO quickly.
Tinder has ELO and if you swipe right all the time you are regarded as a spammer and your account gets banned.
Free accounts are shown dead/inactive accounts and swiping right on all accounts will generate no matches.
Upgrading account allow you to change regions and shows you to active accounts.
YOU ARE WASTING TIME SWIPING RIGHT ON DEAD/INACTIVE ACCOUNTS FOR 0 MATCHES FROM 200 SWIPES PER DAY.
Being more selective and upgrading account with quality high professional photos will generate more matches.



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15 Oct 2019, 12:03 am

Rainbow_Belle wrote:
Swiping right on all is the worst strategy and will drop your ELO quickly.
Tinder has ELO and if you swipe right all the time you are regarded as a spammer and your account gets banned.
Free accounts are shown dead/inactive accounts and swiping right on all accounts will generate no matches.
Upgrading account allow you to change regions and shows you to active accounts.
YOU ARE WASTING TIME SWIPING RIGHT ON DEAD/INACTIVE ACCOUNTS FOR 0 MATCHES FROM 200 SWIPES PER DAY.
Being more selective and upgrading account with quality high professional photos will generate more matches.

So that's why they penalise you for swiping right on everyone. That makes sense.



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15 Oct 2019, 1:18 am

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Rainbow_Belle wrote:
Swiping right on all is the worst strategy and will drop your ELO quickly.
Tinder has ELO and if you swipe right all the time you are regarded as a spammer and your account gets banned.
Free accounts are shown dead/inactive accounts and swiping right on all accounts will generate no matches.
Upgrading account allow you to change regions and shows you to active accounts.
YOU ARE WASTING TIME SWIPING RIGHT ON DEAD/INACTIVE ACCOUNTS FOR 0 MATCHES FROM 200 SWIPES PER DAY.
Being more selective and upgrading account with quality high professional photos will generate more matches.

So that's why they penalise you for swiping right on everyone. That makes sense.




Tinder wants you to lower your ELO and makes you buy premium.

When Tinder was first released it had a “last activity time” feature visible on each profile, so I could easily swipe left on those been inactive for so long.

But now Tinder removed this feature because it is harming their business; they even chased indie apps that do that to close them.



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15 Oct 2019, 6:35 pm

Fantastic replies, very informative! So there's basically a "Power Level" that is an aggregate score of attractiveness. The people who told me they only swipe right did say it quite some time ago like I want to say probably 2015/2016 so Tinder might've even been new still.

I'm guessing women can freely see ELO of profiles too? After all if I were to design a sort of app and "gamify" it then it makes sense to include highly detailed statistics(think NFL football player or MLB Baseball player stats). I would probably literally include the actual numbers of times the profile was swiped right or left and maybe even show examples of who last was interested/not interested. If I went all in on this approach perhaps it'd even mean Unmatching could let you write a review which is then viewable by other women who have the profile come up.


The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Rainbow_Belle wrote:
Swiping right on all is the worst strategy and will drop your ELO quickly.
Tinder has ELO and if you swipe right all the time you are regarded as a spammer and your account gets banned.
Free accounts are shown dead/inactive accounts and swiping right on all accounts will generate no matches.
Upgrading account allow you to change regions and shows you to active accounts.
YOU ARE WASTING TIME SWIPING RIGHT ON DEAD/INACTIVE ACCOUNTS FOR 0 MATCHES FROM 200 SWIPES PER DAY.
Being more selective and upgrading account with quality high professional photos will generate more matches.

So that's why they penalise you for swiping right on everyone. That makes sense.




Tinder wants you to lower your ELO and makes you buy premium.

When Tinder was first released it had a “last activity time” feature visible on each profile, so I could easily swipe left on those been inactive for so long.

But now Tinder removed this feature because it is harming their business; they even chased indie apps that do that to close them.

Makes a lot of sense. I wonder if it is even worthwhile at all for average men?

If I were to buy premium, it is then in their direct financial interest to keep success away from me. If I find a great match then I won't "need" to continue paying monthly fee. If it turns into a long term relationship then that is at least some months of not paying for premium. If it turns into marriage then that at least means quite a long time of not paying premium or maybe even never. If it's perpetually nothing for years then that can mean years of paying for Premium, which could be a lot of money if it's a lot of guys who end up in this situation and doing this.

What I am seeing here in spades is the Mobile "Free-mium" game model. Clash of Clans but it's actual dating. It will even have the gambler's dopamine rush aspect of the experience.

I see a great way to make a lot of money probably millions of dollars but what I don't see so far is something useful for a guy looking to date. Sadly this is what I see very often with this kind of stuff, great business scheme but falls apart under any analysis with any information. As a guy I just want to date, I don't hold strong opinions about casual or serious I just want to take life as it comes and do what makes sense to me.


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