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I think that you should make an effort to post about other things.
Dwelling in one topic creates connections in your brain where you just automatically go to those thoughts.
If you start making an effort to discuss other things that interest you it will help you think about more positive things.
Start a thread about something you really enjoy. Maybe about artists you really admire.
I agree. You should make posts about things that make you happy.
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Plugged in my electric guitar and played on some songs I more or less know completely. There’s more songs I wish I knew but I can’t play a guitar solo to save my life and it’s frustrating getting more complex songs under my fingers. The songs I can play don’t have guitar solos and have rhythms that are easy for me to get down. When I can’t play a solo in a song or a song that is harder to get under my fingers, it makes me feel like I suck and that maybe I am not meant to play the guitar. If I played for an audience, I would probably get boo’ed.
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That's basically where I got with playing guitar. I can play some Slayer and Converge songs, that's about at the limit of my technical ability. But, being a musician means more than just merely being technically proficient on an instrument. Darkthrone have released several genre defining classic albums while never really demonstrating more technical ability than a novice might have. Nirvana redefined the sound of rock music for a generation while never really exceeding that level of technical ability.
Instead of letting your level of technical ability defeat you, think of what you can do: those are the tools you've got in your toolbox, use them to the best of your abilities to create something instead of getting fixated on how you'd like to be able to sweep pick** or whatever.
People more skilled at guitar than either of us get booed. People less skilled than either of us have made audiences love them. Performing is about more than just one's ability to play the song correctly. If you're concerned about how an audience might react, you can always work as a studio project and only release recorded stuff. Trent Reznor was a janitor at a recording studio before NIN took off, it wasn't until after it was starting to gain momentum that a live band was put together to perform the songs.
If you're worried you're lacking as a musician, focusing on other related skills like composition or mixing/engineering/producing can help make you more capable of getting your ideas out and expressed as intended.
**I can't sweep pick and I doubt I'll ever manage to learn how to.
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I'm going to offer some possibly weird advice, but here it is.....
I like to read dating advice and I recently stumbled across a subreddit called "Dating over thirty" and I noticed there are a lot of women on there who are struggling to find happy relationships.
Since you are also in your thirties you could try going over the to offer sympathy and cheer them on, make a few friends, which could possibly lead to more eventually. It is not a hookup site, it is a lot like this forum where people ask for advice or commiserate relationship woes.
If you do go over there, i very strongly suggest that you try to make posts to encourage and be friendly.
Before you submit a post, read it back to yourself and imagine how you would feel if someone sent you such a post. Would you feel warm towards the person because of their kindness? If not, edit it, and read it back to yourself again.
I'm glad you are finding comfort and renewed interests in the quarantine. I wish you all the best
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I like to read dating advice and I recently stumbled across a subreddit called "Dating over thirty" and I noticed there are a lot of women on there who are struggling to find happy relationships.
Since you are also in your thirties you could try going over the to offer sympathy and cheer them on, make a few friends, which could possibly lead to more eventually. It is not a hookup site, it is a lot like this forum where people ask for advice or commiserate relationship woes.
If you do go over there, i very strongly suggest that you try to make posts to encourage and be friendly.
Before you submit a post, read it back to yourself and imagine how you would feel if someone sent you such a post. Would you feel warm towards the person because of their kindness? If not, edit it, and read it back to yourself again.
I'm glad you are finding comfort and renewed interests in the quarantine. I wish you all the best
That's a good insight/advice and observation about the need to present positive. People get consumed by their own struggles and it's easy to lose sight of how this can come out in a toxic way. No matter how hard one's struggle is, if all the people around you hear are how hopeless it is and how defeated you are, it's going to be hard on them. Presenting positively helps your interactions not become toxic, even if it's not a 100% honest assessment of the situation. Society expects one to preserve a degree of face, so you're not allowed to concede being entirely defeated. But if you haven't conceded it, it hasn't actually happened yet.
Further, neither state is permanent. You're not alone, you're alone for now. I wasn't with someone, I was with someone for the time being. And then I wasn't, but that won't last forever either, maybe. The next person might not last forever, making peace with the fact that this stuff is rarely permanent will probably help with putting being unpartnered in perspective.
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ERRRR...so move out of your goddamn moms house. Sorry but it is what I have felt like saying for a while and even if you disagree I am going to say it...you need to get out of your moms house and make your own life you will be so much happier if you do.
Quit living like a slave, I have told you leave your mom and anytime I bring it up you ignore the comment and just respond to other people who haven't said you should leave your moms house. LIke you asked me not to disregard responding to your posts so I tried to do that and then the second in a post I suggested you leave your moms house its like you did a 180 and started ignoring every one of my posts and only respond to people who don't yet know that you prefer to stay at your moms house and face abuse rahther than even so much as looking into a different living situation. LIke I have told you time and time and time again that you have options to get away from your overbearing mother but you'd rather ignore it all and act like all you have on this site are your 'detractors' I have tried so long to try and be helpful but you ignore it all. So what is the goddamn point? I'f you would just rather remain miserable in your moms basement there isn't anything I can do. I have tried to talk with you about gettting out of your moms house but whenvver it is brought up you just change the subject. So fine if you want to live with your mom controlling your money which she has no right to do than fine. But you have every right to challenge it so its kinda messed up you don't even try and just willfully let your mother get away with everything. LIke at some point you may need to take a stand...
Like I am sorry if you are so unhappy where you are than move out...or at least attempt. I have tried giving advice and have given all I have all I have left is...MOVE THE HELL OUT OF YOUR MOMS HOUSE!, like I am sorry but you have to at some point you are sick of her overbearing attitude and move out. None of us here can force you to have that moment all we can do is recommend you stop living in a situation where your mom controls you and you have not motivation whatsoever to challenge it. You're 30 years old surely that is old enough to tell your mom to f**k off if she is holding you back. I am sorry man but you gotta learn to tell people to f**k off when they are abusing you, it does no good to just sit there and take it.
I mean I am sorry I have tried to give helpful advice time and time again and it just get ignored so there just is not anything else I can really suggest.I mean move out or make peace with the situation other than that I don't know anymore.
And quite frankly at the moment you should be concerned about staying safe for coronavirus, not focusing on getting a gf. Like hey I don't want to see you waste your whole life. like do some stuff you enjoy try to find community certainly don't end yourself but realize some of the rest of us are going through rough times as well. LIke I am out of work and well I kind of needed my income but s**t happened so now I have to just try and plan ahead. Can't just be like woe is me the economy is f****d...still gotta try and make rent and such. And also f**k the goddamn economy..we need a new system anyways.
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Hi.
I’ve read a few of your threads in the months since I joined this forum and I felt maybe with this one still being active, maybe I can give some advice.
Just for background, I’ve never had a boyfriend (except a pretend one when I was 12). ALL my siblings have had relationships. My own twin has had several. My older siblings are now married with children. I feel (sometimes) like I’ll die old and alone. Why did I start with this? To avoid any arguments that I don’t know what it’s like and I’m just speaking from a place of entitled ignorance.
Short answer: honestly, back burner relationships like was mentioned from the start of this thread and work on yourself. Your head’s not in the right place and speaking from a female perspective, it’s not attractive. (Not you, these ideas and the rut you’ve gotten yourself into).
Long answer: it sounds like you think that all your depression and negative feelings will disappear once you get a girlfriend. If this isn’t your actual belief then I’m sorry, but that’s the impression I’ve gotten from reading your threads. That won’t happen. You’ll get a girlfriend and still have all these negative feelings. Constantly trying to play catch up with your siblings, feeling like you need to be doing something else instead of stopping to just enjoy the ride etc. That’s one of the reasons I say work on yourself. Get all of that sorted and make peace BEFORE chasing girls. When asked what you had to offer, you said you were calm and emotionally something (I can’t remember the word, sorry!) You sound the exact opposite when you obsess about getting a girlfriend. Right now you’re pinning your happiness and how well adjusted you are on another human being. Going into a relationship like that isn’t fair to the girl. You’re already asking a lot while saying what you have to give in return is being calm.
Which....here me out, I’m not shallow, I’m a realist...calm can’t get you groceries at the store. You can be emotionally savvy all you’d like, that won’t lay the fiscal foundation for independence and growing into a future together. It’s romantic to say “love will conquer all and she should love me for me even when I go into the red” BUT, foreclosure, bankruptcy, homeless shelters, they’re all real and all more likely when you don’t have a good foundation. You said you’ll move out if you find the right girl. Most girls, especially as they get older, are looking for someone who is established or on the way to being established. Lots of guys say they don’t want a single mom because she has baggage (emotional and otherwise). That’s the kind of baggage you’re currently dragging around and is another reason to work on yourself first. Make yourself appealing. EVERYONE does. It’s just life. When you want the job, you make a fancy resume and you sell yourself in the interview. When you date or are looking to date, it’s the same principle and even then it depends on your approach and social skills (yet another argument for working on yourself first).
And no, I’m not saying change yourself to become someone else for others or start lying to be more appealing. I’m saying find what you’re good at and start milking it. Put your best food forward and try not to worry about failing. Everyone fails. And before you say you live in the Bible Belt and nothing you like is liked by those around you so it’s hopeless, you’re not a tree. If you don’t like where your are, then move.
I get it, you can’t think of anything else. You’re angry other people have found love. Your life is ending and it’s all consuming. I’ve read all that. Yes. Now it’s time to do something about it—and don’t do it to get a girlfriend. Improving yourself is meant to make YOU happy. Make you more confident. Start small. Maybe set little goals for yourself. Don’t go into every encounter thinking it MUST work. You joined bible study to socialise when that’s not what bible study is for. Then you got mad it didn’t work. You complain about the women in your area and how you DEFINITELY aren’t attracted to them, but get down that none of them are into you in return. You say people at parks are socializing and happy and you’re creepy. Most likely already arrived together and planned the outing. It seems you're quick to grab on to negative explanations and internalise them. Even with the guitar. You said you could play several songs but the moment you found one you couldn’t, you told yourself you sucked. It’s that sort of negative thinking that makes me think you wouldn’t be any happier in a relationship and why I sincerely think some time adjusting the way you think and behave (rather than hiding behind excuses about why you can’t change and how it’s everyone else’s fault) could do you as a person some good in the long run. And trust me, when you’re happy and comfy with you, others take notice. Others start to want to be around you. Jokes come easier. Laughing at yourself becomes easier. And relationships of all kinds become easier.
This is just my two cents. You can keep complaining about the same things or you can start working on you, change your situation, then see where it takes you. Think of it as the long road to getting a girlfriend. One that immensely benefits you first.
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I have terrible dreams all the time, but I mean they aren't real....so no reason to be stuck on it.
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If some of his negative feelings arise from a perpetual lack of a romantic partner, getting a romantic partner will probably quash those particular negative feelings. Likewise, if he improves his life circumstances but doesn't get a girlfriend, some of the negative feelings about his life circumstances will be quashed, but not those that arise from not being able to get a girlfriend.
Getting a girlfriend isn't going to solve all your problems, but it will solve the problem of not having a girlfriend, which seems to be a pretty significant problem for Marknis.
I agree with you here that Marknis would be better off improving his circumstances before he worries too much about trying to date, given that women are more likely to be turned off by than accommodating of his current circumstances. Unfortunately, Marknis doesn't appear to be very receptive to the idea of self-improvement as a means of increasing his dating prospects.
I wouldn't agree that he's pinning his happiness on another human being. He's pinning his happiness on the idea of getting into a romantic relationship, which most people do to some extent. He might come across as a bit more extreme than most in the way he's doing it, but that would be at least in part because his desire for a romantic partner has been unmet for a longer period of time than most.
The man who hasn't eaten in 7 hours may be hungry, but the man who hasn't eaten in 7 days will be ravenous. The difference will be noticeable.
Agreed.
Yep, imo this is one of the areas that Marknis needs to work on in order to have any reasonable chance of getting a relationship.
No, I think it's generally because they have no interest in raising another man's child, and perhaps want a family of their own.
If one of the most important elements to your happiness is getting a girlfriend, and improving yourself makes it so that you can get a girlfriend, doing it to get a girlfriend and doing it to make yourself happy are one in the same.
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No, I think it's generally because they have no interest in raising another man's child, and perhaps want a family of their own.
If someone already has a kid, that's a pretty strong indicator they're willing to have kids, not that men are immune to stupid, self-defeating behaviours.
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"Many of us like to ask ourselves, What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide?' The answer is, you're doing it. Right now." —Former U.S. Airman (Air Force) Aaron Bushnell
No, I think it's generally because they have no interest in raising another man's child, and perhaps want a family of their own.
If someone already has a kid, that's a pretty strong indicator they're willing to have kids, not that men are immune to stupid, self-defeating behaviours.
That could be true, but it could also be the case that for her, the kids she already has are enough.
In any case, I think the main issue that some men have with dating single mothers is the first thing I said.
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No, I think it's generally because they have no interest in raising another man's child, and perhaps want a family of their own.
If someone already has a kid, that's a pretty strong indicator they're willing to have kids, not that men are immune to stupid, self-defeating behaviours.
That could be true, but it could also be the case that for her, the kids she already has are enough.
In any case, I think the main issue that some men have with dating single mothers is the first thing I said.
It's probably not a bad thing if it keeps the sort of man-children who would make that their deal-breaker from reproducing.
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Sorry about my earlier rant...I admit I was a little drunk when I posted it. But I just read it now and I agree with what I posted over-all. I apologize for the ranty way in which I posted it however. But yeah I really am kinda at a loss I've tried to help as much as I can over a forum but just kinda seems like it's been a wasted effort. Like I really do wish you the best in life but...you have to take charge of your life none of us here can do that for you.
Also, I realize you didn't ignore my entire post before that last one here, just completely and totally ignored the bit about moving out and then just went on to post of totally unrelated things, and say some more about the 'detractors' and quite frankly, I have not seen any comments where people seem to hope you the worst and don't want you to have a girlfriend. Honestly as far as this website I have seen you accuse people of that, but I haven't really seen anyone actually do that. I am not here 24/7 so I don't see everything but yeah not convinced you have as many detractors here on this site as you say...I have a feeling some of those 'detractors' are well meaning people who's advice you simply don't like.
Also apparently you can play at least a couple songs on a guitar...I thought I wanted to play bass for a while even had a bass guitar and an amp, never even learned a song. So I mean its like you even have things you can do but you don't even acknowledge it, you have skills some of us here don't even have. I mean be proud of yourself once in a while. You even drive, you do realize many of us here don't have a car or drive right? I don't even have a drivers license I have a permit.
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Also, I realize you didn't ignore my entire post before that last one here, just completely and totally ignored the bit about moving out and then just went on to post of totally unrelated things, and say some more about the 'detractors' and quite frankly, I have not seen any comments where people seem to hope you the worst and don't want you to have a girlfriend. Honestly as far as this website I have seen you accuse people of that, but I haven't really seen anyone actually do that. I am not here 24/7 so I don't see everything but yeah not convinced you have as many detractors here on this site as you say...I have a feeling some of those 'detractors' are well meaning people who's advice you simply don't like.
Also apparently you can play at least a couple songs on a guitar...I thought I wanted to play bass for a while even had a bass guitar and an amp, never even learned a song. So I mean its like you even have things you can do but you don't even acknowledge it, you have skills some of us here don't even have. I mean be proud of yourself once in a while. You even drive, you do realize many of us here don't have a car or drive right? I don't even have a drivers license I have a permit.
I accept your apology. I meant to reply earlier but I don’t really do well with long posts. It doesn’t help that I just have so much overwhelming my mind lately and I don’t want to burden those who I am good terms with as well. Not being able to do things like socialize because of the damn coronavirus going on is also making me stressed out.
I really wish I could move out but the process sounds daunting. My finances are low, I’ve never paid bills before, I don’t know where I would live or if it would be in a good area, I might have to give up certain hobbies, and my mind gets ensnared by bad future thoughts. It’s like I have all these psychological barriers in my mind and I want to break them down but don’t have the tools to do so. I had a very shielded upbringing and the long-term effects are very strong.
I can’t say the names of those I am on bad terms with or I will get banned. I will say so far this year they have left me alone and I want it to stay that way.
Why haven’t you gotten a license yet? My biggest stumbling block in that regard was the difficulty in parallel parking. Is is the same for you?
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