To all Aspie men who are angry with women.

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31 Aug 2007, 5:51 am

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The point I am trying to make is that there are some women you would reject, based on personality or appearance, no matter how much they wanted to be with you; just as many women would reject you for the similar reasons.

What really upsets me is that many of the men here condemn all women based on a few bad experiences. How do you know that all women are as you perceive them to be? Have you met all women?

I have terrible experiences with men, and I am not even dating. Every time I go out, I am perpetually sexually harassed by idiots, exclusively of the male gender.

Based on such experiences, I could quite easily make the statement that all men are perverts; just as some people here say that all women are b*****s. However, I won't do that, as I it would be a vast assumption. I strongly suggest that you allow the female gender the same respect; the respect that they are all individuals and should not be pre-judged.

I am also asking you to consider the possibility that these women do not actually set out to hurt you; that they are just obeying their emotional reactions.


Definately you have a valid point.

Guys, if you don't understand, put a fake profile on a dating site that you're a woman. Check the messages you recieve.

And also, whilst imo it's far from the nature of a man with Asperger's syndrome to idiotically sexually harass anyone, it's helpful to actually set in your mind that women do not actually set out to hurt you (even though some do).

If you start for the non-idiotic women, you'll notice them and realise that whilst they're can be hard to find, perhaps that's because of the NT men. Maybe you'll understand the pressures caused to women by the idiotic hunks of meat out there and understand the lack of desire women have for men who seem weak. It's hard to be positive with so many idiotic people around, but i find it's the only way to be. Otherwise they always seem to win, particularily in social situations.



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31 Aug 2007, 6:00 am

All men ARE perverts though. :P



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31 Aug 2007, 7:55 am

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I still stand by my theory - although I would like to point out that the "overweight, unattractive girl" statement shouldn't be taken literally. Some of you wouldn't judge by appearances and would be happy with her. And, of course, taking into accounts personal taste, some of you would find her attractive.

The point I am trying to make is that there are some women you would reject, based on personality or appearance, no matter how much they wanted to be with you; just as many women would reject you for the similar reasons.

What really upsets me is that many of the men here condemn all women based on a few bad experiences. How do you know that all women are as you perceive them to be? Have you met all women?

I have terrible experiences with men, and I am not even dating. Every time I go out, I am perpetually sexually harassed by idiots, exclusively of the male gender.

Based on such experiences, I could quite easily make the statement that all men are perverts; just as some people here say that all women are b*****s. However, I won't do that, as I it would be a vast assumption. I strongly suggest that you allow the female gender the same respect; the respect that they are all individuals and should not be pre-judged.

I am also asking you to consider the possibility that these women do not actually set out to hurt you; that they are just obeying their emotional reactions.


Who here condemns all women to be like that if they've had bad experiences with someone? But I still stand by what I said as well - some people are just jerks who try to manipulate whatever the case.
That is not a reflection on the guy - so if the guy isn't smooth in relationships, then what are you saying that it's warranted that the girl he's with treats him poorly? That's what I seem to get from your first post.
Perhaps your analysis rings true in the case of certain people, but I can definately say that - my ex is a b****. :/


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31 Aug 2007, 8:46 am

I think stuff like this is just as bad. Far too much generalisation going on.



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31 Aug 2007, 11:00 am

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I have terrible experiences with men, and I am not even dating. Every time I go out, I am perpetually sexually harassed by idiots, exclusively of the male gender.


you said before :



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The way that women treat you is more a reflection on yourself than on the gender itself; just as the way that men treat me says more about me than the male gender.


So we can conclude : that the way that guys treat you is more a reflection on yourself than on the gender itself , just as the way that men treat you says more about you than the male gender . So since you date maniac idiot perverts who harass you perpetually then that means that you are a sexual pervert too ?



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31 Aug 2007, 11:04 am

Dont be silly, Its not the girls that make me angry, its the people who always go
that the mistake is in me the problem is with me

Yea im not good enough, i dont look good enough, i dont even know the meaning of charm, i dont make myself happy how could i expect to make someone else, i dont have the slightest clue of confidence in me, and of course in the end im just as an arrogant butt as anyone and probably would act the same way with someone like me.. yea yea i know

Im not angry with women im angry with people that keep on telling me to feel guilty about being a reject or something

Like i should feel guilty about feeling guilty now? Feel bad about feeling bad about myself? ...

Whateverlike im just making myself all worked up again..



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31 Aug 2007, 11:20 am

I think that Aridarr is the one who's angry on a whole gender .



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31 Aug 2007, 12:11 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
I think that Aridarr is the one who's angry on a whole gender .


Agreed.

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Think about it; if you met an overweight, unattractive girl, you would treat her badly in comparison to a beautiful supermodel type.


LOL! Thanx for the generalization. :?

First of all, supermodels are ugly twigs who are -3 dress size, and they think they're all that. I don't talk to supermodels, I'm afraid of them.

I don't treat anyone badly, whether their overweight or unnatractive or not.



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31 Aug 2007, 12:17 pm

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I've seen women turn weakling men into nothing but childish pets shared amongst a harem,


Huh?

I don't know what you are talking about, but, on the surface, being a weakling man who is shared amongst a harem like a childish pet doesn't sound like a bad outcome to me. Indeed, being a weakling pet shared amongst a harem has been a secret fantasy of mine.



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31 Aug 2007, 12:24 pm

Aridarr wrote:
all men are perverts.


All men are perverts. A chemical called testosterone makes us that way. I know I'm a pervert, but I don't harass women in any way, shape or form.

I use internet porn for all my perverted needs.



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31 Aug 2007, 1:34 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
I think that Aridarr is the one who's angry on a whole gender .


I hate to be so assumptive, but based on your last comment, you seem rather angry, sweetie.


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I have terrible experiences with men, and I am not even dating. Every time I go out, I am perpetually sexually harassed by idiots, exclusively of the male gender.


you said before :


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The way that women treat you is more a reflection on yourself than on the gender itself; just as the way that men treat me says more about me than the male gender.


So we can conclude : that the way that guys treat you is more a reflection on yourself than on the gender itself , just as the way that men treat you says more about you than the male gender . So since you date maniac idiot perverts who harass you perpetually then that means that you are a sexual pervert too ?


If you had taken the time to read what I had said instead of jumping to unsavory conclusions, you would know that I am not dating.

The men who harrass me in the street are strangers who I do my best to avoid, and with whom I have no personal connection.

What I meant when I made the comment about the fact that the way men treat me says more about me than the male gender is that I am, unfortunately, the kind of girl who incites sexually-fuelled stupidity in most men.

In other words; I'm gorgeous, sweet and naive. Men think they can take advantage of me.

Anyway, I'm not attacking men, and certainly not Aspie men. If you had read my messages fully, you would see that I am trying to help them.

I am trying to show them that they are not being singled out or victimized in any way; and that there is no reason for them to become bitter or angry towards the opposite sex, an attitude that would only serve to cause them further pain.

If anything makes me angry, it is the sheer sexism of the attitudes of some of the men here.(notice - I say some, not all. I know as a fact that many of you are sensible people.)

Why is it so hard for you to accept that women have their own emotional needs; that they have as much a right to reject you if they see fit as you have to reject a woman you dislike?

I'm not trying to be hurtful; I am giving you the facts.

Look, nobody deserves rejection, but it is something we all have to live with.

It is pointless to hold grudges against those who reject you; they are simply acting in accordance with their emotions and desires; not out of malice. Romance isn't something that can be forced. It involves accepting the wishes of another, as well as fullfilling your own. And, sometimes you just have to accept that the person you are attached to emotionally doesn't reciprocate; not because they consciously decide not to, but as the relationship doesn't feel right to them.

Nobody can choose who they love or like, nor who they hate or dislike.

Emotions know no logic, or fairness.

Edit: Another thing; did any of you notice the title of this thread? The points I am making here are directed solely at Aspie men who hold unhealthy grudges against women.

I did not, at any point, claim that all men or even that all Aspie men are misogynists; just that there are at least a few who are, some of which come here.

And yes, they do exist here. I happened to know one here once, a man who expressed the opinion that all women deserve to be raped.

This thread was intended to educate people like him.



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31 Aug 2007, 2:26 pm

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I hate to be so assumptive, but based on your last comment, you seem rather angry, sweetie.


Can you quote this comment ,sweetie ? Because i have no idea about which comment you are talking about .


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It is pointless to hold grudges against those who reject you; they are simply acting in accordance with their emotions and desires; not out of malice. Romance isn't something that can be forced. It involves accepting the wishes of another, as well as fullfilling your own. And, sometimes you just have to accept that the person you are attached to emotionally doesn't reciprocate; not because they consciously decide not to, but as the relationship doesn't feel right to them.



I have no grudge against any one who rejected me , I hold only some grudge against a girl that met her thro a local's forum meeting and i met her for real for several times . This girl showed too much affection and too much caring during 4 months and I fell for her in return . Even her sister posted a thread on this local forum 'if you win 2 tickets , who would you pick from this forum to go with?' and her reply was : prince (my nick there) .
It's only later that I found out that she was dating my friend (who was also a member in this local forum) for 2 months out of these 4 months ( she declared it later) . So I can say that my grudge is justified in this case since I was obviously emotionally abused .



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31 Aug 2007, 2:30 pm

Ah well why didn't you say so then :)
I understand now. Wow someone thinks that all women deserve to be raped?
lol sorry about my snappy reaction btw, I thought you were saying that whatever a girl does to a guy is a reflection on him - this caused me to get all defensive... p.s. it was my ex who wronged me though.


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31 Aug 2007, 2:38 pm

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Whenever any of you makes the claim that all girls/women are like this, or that, you are utterly wrong.

Would you be willing to say the same about women claiming men are like this, or that?


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31 Aug 2007, 2:39 pm

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The way that women treat you is more a reflection on yourself than on the gender itself; just as the way that men treat me says more about me than the male gender.

Sorry guys; it's not them; it's you.

No, not necessarily.

It may be us, or it may be them.


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31 Aug 2007, 2:49 pm

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All men ARE perverts though. :P


(Women just hide it better. ...But that strange buzzing sound usually gives them away.)


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