Simps Will Ruin Dating For Everyone In 5 Years

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youtube.com/watch?v=oGDCOEa23Z0

Who exactly invented the term "simp"? Incels?

another nutter whining about not getting a date I take it? I don't really blind-click random youtube links, but I'm willing to bet that's what it is.

It's a WheatWaffles presentation.

Simping might be about as smart as throwing tips to watch real-time porn (that's effectively what it is) but - we've got hundreds if not thousands of big problems.

To the degree that WheatWaffles is well known to such a degree that Chris Williamson occasionally brings him up, notSoErudite (a center/center-left therapist involved in fact-checking both the pill-o-spheres and their knee-jerk retractors) is well aware of him - I have a fair amount of faith at this point that a 'fast asleep' public whose going to roll the car off the cliff thinking we're still living in the 1980's, while it scared me a lot more during the 2010's, seems like it's less of a thing in the 2020's.

As for dating getting fixed - we're probably going to need a few generations where close to half the men and nearly as many women don't have kids, never marry, and natural selection clears out what doesn't work.

"Simp" used to just mean a stupid person, might be short for "simple" or "simpleton". But now apparently now it's any guy who does something his female partner wants him to do, no matter what. For example "Honey, will you do the dishes?" "Okay". SIMP!

And the original meaning for "simp" is what the incels who came up with the new meaning should be called.

The "Simps" -- mentioned by the Incel who made the video -- are the Nice Guys™ who will do anything to gain a woman's attention except grow a spine and show some self-respect.

I have to disagree with the basic premise of the video, however.  It is not the "Simps" who are making dating more difficult, it is the people who know they can be picky about whom they will date -- women who only want to date wealthy businessmen, and men who only want to date fashion models.

They should lighten up.  Dating is not about scoring the top prize; it is about finding someone whom you like and who also likes you.

Clarifying overall meaning of words:

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I don't have familiarity with what seobounty.com is but it's a lengthy article on the phenomena (I'm offering it for description not persuasion of a stance).

With what I said above, in the online context, it's something like porn 2.0, where you can ask a web cam girl to do things and in turn you tip her, and there's some expectation - among some of these guys - that an actual relationship can come of it if they become devoted fans of the cam girls they take a shine to. The most known website for this kind of activity is OnlyFans, and so the terms 'simping' and 'OnlyFans' tend to go hand in hand.

It's a side-effect of people being internet / web citizens, convenience culture, etc. and since COVID lowered IRL human communication and contact it's accelerated.

I just looked up SEO Bounty:

Back in the day, we called them 'Chumps'; as in, "The gold-digger played him for a chump".

Unfortunately "Wheat Waffles," the creator of this video, has also made another video, titled "Who Cares More About Looks? Men or Women" in which he claims that when women say we value personality more than looks, we're lying. Moreover, he claims that women value looks even more than men do.

He says he bases these claims on the differing results of surveys of women's stated preferences vs. studies of women's actual actions.

Problem: The study he cited, regarding women's actual actions, had to do with women's behavior on dating apps, specifically. Problems with this:

1) Women who use dating apps are not representative of women in general. Women are much less likely than men to use dating apps.

2) Most of today's dating apps -- especially Tinder, the one used in the study -- are intrinsically looks-oriented. The first thing a user sees about potential partners is a photo. Furthermore, a potential partner's looks can be evaluated in a split-second, whereas everything else about a potential partner takes much longer to evaluate. So, even if the user sincerely considers personality to be more important than looks, the very structure of today's dating apps impels people to evaluate looks first, then everything else later.

3) Because fewer women than men use dating apps, women seeking men have a lot more choices than men seeking women. This would likely exacerbate the looks-first tendency mentioned above. It conceivably might even be true that women on dating apps judge potential partners more by looks than men on dating apps do, simply because the women on dating apps have more people to judge, hence less time in which to judge any given potential partner, hence more reason to make quick judgments, at least initially.

All of the above is far less likely to be true for women and men who meet in more old-fashioned ways, e.g. at church (where there are likely to be more women than men).

It might even be true that a woman who meets men both via dating apps and by more old-fashioned means might judge the exact same man in very different ways, and by very different criteria (at least initially), depending on the setting in which she first encounters him.