Coping after end of long distance relationship

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27 Apr 2023, 10:52 am

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This woman spent her entire adult life with somebody who utterly controlled her. She probably came to view him as an authority figure and imagines being punished for "cheating" on him. Is she permanently damaged? I wouldn't know, but it would seem simply leaving her alone isn't the best plan. Perhaps you need to be assertive in some way. If you could find some sort of counseling and talk about your situation as that of a couple facing difficulties that might help get her past this.

I'll admit that's sort of vague but it would seem taking some sort of action, fighting for the relationship, might be better than simply giving up.


That’s why I’m so conflicted - it’s something I’d be willing to fight for, but I have to respect her wishes on this if this is something she feels she needs to work on without me by her side - I don’t want to be pushy or anything.

However, I am feeling a lot more hatred towards her ex for messing her up so badly she felt she wasn’t ready for our relationship.


I know you don't want to hear it, but you must accept that there's a possibility that she realized she's just not that into you, that after spending five days together she concluded that she did not want a long term relationship. So she has let you down, after the two of you departed, with the it's not you it's me speech.

If you don't let her go you will never move on. And if she comes back, good for you.

You have already demonstrated that you are good enough man to attract a good woman. Be confident you can do it again.


I know you’re trying to help, but I feel that’s not the case - if that is how she felt she would have told me rather than lying and coming up with a reason like that. She was arguably more tearful than I was during our last phone call, and if what you’re hypothesising was true, then she would have figured that out after one of the weekends we spent together.

The issue isn’t my confidence in attracting a good woman - it’s whether or not that person will be good enough for me.


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28 Apr 2023, 1:20 am

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Dating can be very confusing, that is for sure.


Understatement of the year right there.



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28 Apr 2023, 2:09 am

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The issue isn’t my confidence in attracting a good woman - it’s whether or not that person will be good enough for me.


You are way ahead of most of us guys on this forum. Many of us are more worried about attracting a woman who things we are good enough for her!



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28 Apr 2023, 6:36 am

Shouldn't the issue be whether you're compatible, instead of if someone is "good enough" for the other person?

Are we all demi-gods?


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28 Apr 2023, 7:36 am

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Shouldn't the issue be whether you're compatible, instead of if someone is "good enough" for the other person?

Are we all demi-gods?


That's the thing - it's about whether or not another person fits my criteria for what I'm after which I don't feel is unreasonable (someone I get along well with/vibe with and have things in common with who is accepting/understanding of the difficulties I face due to my diagnosis, has similar values and ethics to myself, and accepts my lifestyle choices of being vegetarian and not drinking alcohol). Right now I'm just afraid of not finding someone who makes me as happy as she did.



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28 Apr 2023, 7:46 am

I am surprised it took this long for this thread to get to this point.



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28 Apr 2023, 10:02 am

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I am surprised it took this long for this thread to get to this point.


What point is that?



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28 Apr 2023, 10:17 am

Nothing. I wholeheartedly endorse your efforts to find a good woman.



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28 Apr 2023, 11:26 am

I wouldn’t say I’m at that stage yet. Sure, some people can just jump from relationship to relationship, but it hasn’t even been two weeks yet and given how strong my feelings are, they don’t just go away like that. It’s not going to be a linear process but I have to move on fully before even trying to date someone else (although I don’t want to try and force it once that happens and want things to happen naturally).



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28 Apr 2023, 10:07 pm

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That's the thing - it's about whether or not another person fits my criteria for what I'm after which I don't feel is unreasonable (someone I get along well with/vibe with and have things in common with who is accepting/understanding of the difficulties I face due to my diagnosis, has similar values and ethics to myself, and accepts my lifestyle choices of being vegetarian and not drinking alcohol). Right now I'm just afraid of not finding someone who makes me as happy as she did.


That is a good point. I think many of us are rather incompatible with much of the population due to our disorder. That seems to be a characteristic of Asperger's-we just don't fit in too well.



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29 Apr 2023, 2:39 am

I think it’s just a case of reframing your way of thinking - I think it’s possible for things to work out if the other person is willing to understand the difficulties and issues that come from being autistic or neurodivergent, but the willingness is the key part and it has to work both ways in some respects as you need to put that into perspective.

The hard thing here is there were never any issues in the relationship linked to the autism (as she said I don’t need to change who I am) or anything to do with me - she just needs to work on herself to unravel all the baggage and damage inflicted on her by this a***hole.



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29 Apr 2023, 7:26 am

Well the important thing now is you must stay in contact with her. Assuming what you said in your OP is basically true and not just your unique perspective on the situation, she will want to talk sooner or later and who else would she want to talk to besides you?

If she's like most cisgender heterosexual women her age, she'll get randy sooner or later. Why would she have sex with somebody else if you're available?


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29 Apr 2023, 7:58 am

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Well the important thing now is you must stay in contact with her. Assuming what you said in your OP is basically true and not just your unique perspective on the situation, she will want to talk sooner or later and who else would she want to talk to besides you?

If she's like most cisgender heterosexual women her age, she'll get randy sooner or later. Why would she have sex with somebody else if you're available?


I get that, but as I’ve said - she feels she isn’t ready for a relationship because of this baggage, and because of the long distance things got a lot more passionate whereas if we lived closer we could have taken things at a slower pace she was more comfortable with. She doesn’t want to promise that we'll get back together and didn’t want to hold me back (which I assume means she doesn’t want me waiting around for whenever she feels ready to be with someone and miss out on someone else), and I feel like if I message her trying to initiate a friendship after a little under two weeks, it’ll give off the impression that the relationship didn’t mean much to me.

That’s true, but I also know that she’s not really promiscuous and wouldn’t sleep with anyone she doesn’t have strong feelings for. She was fully intending on staying single before meeting me and was caught off guard by how much she fell for me.



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29 Apr 2023, 10:01 am

One way for me to interpret what you just said is, any attempt on your part to contact her will trigger her. Which would only make sense if she had some reason to feel threatened by you. Meaning that she doesn't even consider you a friend let alone a boyfriend. I find this hard to believe, TBH this could be called autistic overthinking.

2 weeks is not too soon to reach out. You give the impression that you don't really ever expect to see or speak with her again anyway. So the worst that could happen is she ignores you. The more optimistic scenario is that she doesn't.


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29 Apr 2023, 11:54 am

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One way for me to interpret what you just said is, any attempt on your part to contact her will trigger her. Which would only make sense if she had some reason to feel threatened by you. Meaning that she doesn't even consider you a friend let alone a boyfriend. I find this hard to believe, TBH this could be called autistic overthinking.

2 weeks is not too soon to reach out. You give the impression that you don't really ever expect to see or speak with her again anyway. So the worst that could happen is she ignores you. The more optimistic scenario is that she doesn't.


That’s not what I mean at all. What I mean is she said she wants to be friends, but without the expectation of getting back together hanging over it as that’s not something she wants to promise. I do want friendship, so I’ll be reaching out once I feel I’ve moved on enough to have that friendship. Maybe we'll get back together one day, but I’m happy to be her friend at the very least if that doesn’t happen.

By that, I meant she'll interpret me messaging as me having moved on already which isn’t the impression I want to give. I fully intend on reaching out once I know I’m ready to do so.



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30 Apr 2023, 12:08 am

Guardian452 wrote:
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One way for me to interpret what you just said is, any attempt on your part to contact her will trigger her. Which would only make sense if she had some reason to feel threatened by you. Meaning that she doesn't even consider you a friend let alone a boyfriend. I find this hard to believe, TBH this could be called autistic overthinking.

2 weeks is not too soon to reach out. You give the impression that you don't really ever expect to see or speak with her again anyway. So the worst that could happen is she ignores you. The more optimistic scenario is that she doesn't.


That’s not what I mean at all. What I mean is she said she wants to be friends, but without the expectation of getting back together hanging over it as that’s not something she wants to promise. I do want friendship, so I’ll be reaching out once I feel I’ve moved on enough to have that friendship. Maybe we'll get back together one day, but I’m happy to be her friend at the very least if that doesn’t happen.

By that, I meant she'll interpret me messaging as me having moved on already which isn’t the impression I want to give. I fully intend on reaching out once I know I’m ready to do so.


I admire your principles in this relationship. I think you are making the best decision. By waiting for your emotions and feelings for her to pass into friendship, you have the best chance for the best possible outcome. It doesn’t guarantee she will ever be willing to get back together or even be life long friends but if any of these are possible you will have proven yourself worthy of them.