I cannot believe I haven't had sex yet!

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Recent threads and posts suggest that she may not be pursuing the right men. If there aren’t nice guys around right now, she might want to wait until there are.

It is hard to find actual decent guys around here because I live in a rural area and don't have a car

This is part of why I am going to Day Program

Are you kidding me?? Did you read the bit about ex-con or not? The level of risk is clearly excessive.

You know, if you put yourself inside a rocket and blast the rocket towards the sun, there is a chance that you will survive. Do you think it is wise to try this?

I've heard that multiple times from girls (not women). Then I point at a guy and say, "What about him?"
"No, not him. I don't like him. He's not attractive."
Then I point at another guy. "Alright, what about him?"
"No, not him either."
"Okay, how about that guy over there?"
"Nahh, I don't like clean-shaven guys. They look baby-faced."
"What about John?"
"Hahaha, what? You're joking right? John's a nerd."

And the excuses continue endlessly until I point at a potential wife-beater, and then suddenly the answer changes to, "Oh yeah, he looks kinda hot. I wonder what his name is."

It is NOT an excuse, it's the cold hard truth

Let's not deter the thread into a MGTOW one, please.

I can’t say that I actively pursued my abusive ex and rejected other guys. He was just very manipulative and pursued me when I was very vulnerable. I had no idea about that stuff and I doubt the OP does, either. Hopefully, feedback she’s received will be useful.

Even if there are no other options, being single is better than being with someone who’s unworthy.

BF1 - The first and only guy I dated pre-marriage. It started as friends. Everyone thought he liked my friend and not me. Maybe he did. She had another boyfriend so we morphed into dating. I married him. We got divorced.

BF2 - I must admit I kind of pursued him. He pulled away at the start and I tried again. HUGE MISTAKE. Terrible person. I think I must have been on crack or something, not to see the signs. I was vulnerable and looking for love / companionship etc as a very young single mum in my 20's.

BF3 - Had been friends for quite a while but we were both always in a relationship. Finally I was single and I can't remember how it turned romantic but he kissed me at work and I thought that was hot. Our breakup nearly killed me.

MR - Met as strangers by chance. Started dating. No "friendship stage" despite it growing into an amazing friendship / relationship at the same time.

That makes no sense. MGTOW is prejudiced against women. I didn't criticize women. In fact, I explicitly wrote "not women".

So much YES.

Girls are women

I think adolescents don’t always make the most mature relationship choices due to naïveté and poor impulse control which may make them more susceptible to abuse.

Last edited by TwilightPrincess on 10 Aug 2023, 4:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.

No. Girls are under age 18, whereas women are 18+. I made this abundantly clear because I wrote "girls (not women)".

If girls are women, then what do you think of sex with a 10yo woman?? That makes no sense.

If I started a new thread for the purpose of debating the hypothesis that "Girls (<18) often make poor relationship choices", then I guarantee that I would win this debate, and anyone who disagrees with me would end up with egg on their face.

If I would start such a thread with that hypothesis, I would also mention that boys (<18) often make poor relationship choices too, not only girls.

I think people of all ages can make good choices or bad choices. It isn't necessarily dependent on age. Some young people make great choices, like my mum who chose my dad when she was 16. They were married almost 50 years, and happily so. Sometimes young people pick well because the right person happens to be right there in front of them, or because it's the luck of the draw.

Lots of adults or middle aged people make bad choices. It's not because they want bad-boys or beauty queens. It's often because relationships become comfortable early on and people don't know how to get out of them, or they become co-dependent with someone who isn't great for them. Sometimes there are kids involved. Sometimes there are love-bombers and people who hoodwink others.

It's all a crap shoot most of the time. We choose people to fill our needs at that time, but our needs change.

I would like to agree with you, but I cannot comment on people 18+, because if I do, I risk being accused of misogyny, therefore I won't comment on 18+.