Are terrorists are driven by sexual frustration?

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22 Sep 2010, 3:27 pm

its all just speculation, and as we all know, speculation can oftentimes cause..... chaos.


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22 Sep 2010, 3:29 pm

DemonAbyss10 wrote:
its all just speculation, and as we all know, speculation can oftentimes cause..... chaos.


"chaos"........that is an interesting word.



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22 Sep 2010, 3:47 pm

do you have any legitimate sources for that idea at all?


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22 Sep 2010, 3:51 pm

Who isn't driven by sexual frustration at some level?



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22 Sep 2010, 3:51 pm

I once saw a picture of a Playboy model next to a woman in full burqa. It was captioned: no wonder those guys are always angry.

Anyway, terrorism is a little more complex than this, although I suspect that sexual frustration does play a part in it.

Most of those young men have gone to religious schools. They have no formal education, no future, no prospects, nothing to live for, no clue in the world other than what came from the religious texts and the mouth of their priest. Add the lies they've been spoon-fed about the good life in afterlife, and why not blow themselves up? I cant' decide whether this is sad or just pathetic.



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22 Sep 2010, 3:54 pm

Shadwell wrote:
Who isn't driven by sexual frustration at some level?


No one should have to be, its just so morally and ethically corrupt. Sex is the biggest thing that a person needs in order to get self growth and progression. When its not there or it is being deliberately denied, then I can fully support whatever the person does next in order to help themselves.



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22 Sep 2010, 4:00 pm

i think most of the motivation behind terrorism is political, but the assurance of gifts in the afterlife can't hurt the recruitment levels.

perusing the internet, it appears that many muslim people have arranged marriages, so sexual frustration is not likely as a cause...

plus, many terrorists are married.


[EDIT: why isn't this thread in PPR? it's not really about L&D]


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22 Sep 2010, 4:04 pm

What George Bush and Dick Cheney, are not getting any these days?



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22 Sep 2010, 4:07 pm

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What George Bush and Dick Cheney, are not getting any these days?
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22 Sep 2010, 4:09 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
do you have any legitimate sources for that idea at all?


http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles ... ure?page=2

I don't know is Psychology Today a "legitimate" source? That's debatable.

Anyways. I am not saying I agree.



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22 Sep 2010, 4:15 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
i_wanna_blue wrote:
What George Bush and Dick Cheney, are not getting any these days?
i. love. THIS. ANSWER!! !!



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22 Sep 2010, 4:23 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
i think most of the motivation behind terrorism is political, but the assurance of gifts in the afterlife can't hurt the recruitment levels.

The leaders, the people pulling the strings such as Bin Laden, sure it is political for them. But what drives the masses of young men willing to die for the leaders? They are the instrument of terrorism. See my earlier post.

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perusing the internet, it appears that many muslim people have arranged marriages, so sexual frustration is not likely as a cause...

plus, many terrorists are married.


Meh. Getting mediocre missionary three times a year doesn't count. What they need is a really good BJ.



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22 Sep 2010, 4:28 pm

Dilbert wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
i think most of the motivation behind terrorism is political, but the assurance of gifts in the afterlife can't hurt the recruitment levels.

The leaders, the people pulling the strings such as Bin Laden, sure it is political for them. But what drives the masses of young men willing to die for the leaders? They are the instrument of terrorism. See my earlier post.

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perusing the internet, it appears that many muslim people have arranged marriages, so sexual frustration is not likely as a cause...

plus, many terrorists are married.


Meh. Getting mediocre missionary three times a year doesn't count. What they need is a really good BJ.
considering that 'missionary is so named because of christian repression (though missionaries probably did not actually promote the position), i'd say that this argument does not fly. they may be getting amazing sex indeed in the marital bedroom(s) (remember many of them are polygamist)... really, you have no basis for assumption there.

but definitely their heaven sounds like more fun that the christian heaven. so how come there are so many christian terrorists?


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22 Sep 2010, 4:29 pm

The low-level suicide bombers might succumb to the lure of the 72 virgins. These are usually just kids who have crappy lives and have nothing better to do with them. Fill thier heads wih purpose and they're ready to go.

That doesn't explain the higher-ups though. These guys are often married, well educated, and have spent time in western culture with liberated sex lives. Thier devotion runs much deeper than youthful angst.



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22 Sep 2010, 4:55 pm

JohnisBlind wrote:
http://www.gerkhin.com/2010/01/sexual-frustration-fuels-acts-of-hatred/
http://www.abytheliberal.com/sex-and-se ... t-islamism
http://kalimna.blogspot.com/2007/07/sex ... islam.html
http://www.beaumonde.net/sex_and_terrorist.shtml

Is this just a way of villainizing men who can't get laid? Or is there truth to these claims?


Seems to only apply to 'islamic' males. Doesn't apply to communist/anarchist "terrorists" and insurgents through history, especially the European ones. Also doesn't apply to secular nationalist arabs and socialist arabs and iranians etc before the fundamentalists took over.

EDIT: what about female suicide bombers? (as seen in Chechnya and Palestine?). Are they any different in motivation?

deadeyexx wrote:
That doesn't explain the higher-ups though. These guys are often married, well educated, and have spent time in western culture with liberated sex lives. Thier devotion runs much deeper than youthful angst.


They use Islam as a cover for their grievances which is stuff you would see from leftist insurgents if that was the 1950s-80s (manipulation of nations, foreign policy, imperialism, etc etc). If they lived earlier they WOULD have likely ended up becoming communists or nationalists. Now they use islam as a banner due to the so-called "destruction" of communism as a "legitimate ideology".


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