Is it possible........
I have a suspicion that someone has feelings for me, and given my low self-esteem issues, I have a hard time believing someone can find me attractive and have feelings for me and not think that I am weird.
I am unfortunately pretty weird due to my Aspergers; I suppose some people can see past this and may even like it.
Like I said, I have a suspicion. I am not feeding into it. I just want to leave this person be and not get obsessed (I have become obessed by people in the past; not many but one or two).
But if I wasn't second guessing, I'd think this person likes me. I pick up on extremely subtle things that most people may miss, due to my autism. Like micro-expressions and small behaviours and so on, and what the other person is feeling.
Is it possible that others can see us differently than how we see ourselves. Physically and as people???
I like this person as well. But it is complex. It is not a big deal right now. No conclusions to draw as such.
But I am genuinely curious about this question.
Personal experiences very welcome.
Thank you,
Cf
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I think I can see myself in your shoes, considering it sometimes happens to me.
Maybe you should give her a chance. If she really likes you for real, go for it!
If she's faking, leave her alone then.
But if you can't tell, better to ask her about it.
I don't know if it'll work but give it a shot, maybe she will like you back and all.
I think I have met some people before that saw past my Aspergers, like 2 of the employees (1 which was the assistant manager) in my local Hot Topic, whom I befriended and were really nice. Some are just bad, like when the manager of my local Best Buy sounded like it wants me dead for something I didn't even do (he even had no idea I had Aspergers, He just thought I did something bad).
I just got a little taste of that myself recently... Yes, others definitely can see us differently than we see ourselves. It's nice when they're bold enough to share their observations! I thought I was merely being modest, but a few people were kind enough to tell me that it came across as pretty bad self-depreciation. I really didn't think it that in my head... I just didn't want to be Mister Egomaniac!
There's a very, very good chance that some people (especially those who know you) will see you in a better light than you see yourself.
That's a good one for all of us to remember... Bearing in mind that the opposite can also be true.
I guess that's part of what's meant by, "Know Thyself".
I guess, in my view it's how can others not view us differently than ourselves? I've always had the habit of trying to view things from other people's perspectives, because I wonder how the world appears through different eyes. Reality is the raw data in front of us, but for each and every person it gets filtered through past experiences, emotional colorings, personal agendas, what have you. Every person is a cut gemstone, and you can only see a few facets that catch the light at one instant. So how can anyone ever see us the same, or us them? As for know thyself, that can be even more difficult sometimes perhaps because of those same filters.
As for picking up subtleties, sometimes it is glaring obvious and other times I'm oblivious. Sometimes I'm aware I'm missing something,but not what. I just feel it like an undercurrent in the water...sensed but invisible..can't put my finger on it.
I'm starting to ramble I think, but that's what your question brought to mind.
Maybe you should give her a chance. If she really likes you for real, go for it!
If she's faking, leave her alone then.
But if you can't tell, better to ask her about it.
I don't know if it'll work but give it a shot, maybe she will like you back and all.
I think I have met some people before that saw past my Aspergers, like 2 of the employees (1 which was the assistant manager) in my local Hot Topic, whom I befriended and were really nice. Some are just bad, like when the manager of my local Best Buy sounded like it wants me dead for something I didn't even do (he even had no idea I had Aspergers, He just thought I did something bad).
It's the other way around; I'm a female and this person is male.
But thank you anyway. This is not a situation where feelings will be shared either by the way; I won't approach this person.
I am just wondering if I am right that there is something going on or not for one, but also was genuinely curious about the idea that someone could like me and see me in a way that I don't see myself, or something like that.
Thank you
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Me personally - I don't handle rejection too well.
As you get older, you tend not to be as outgoing as you were when you were younger.
The probable answer would be to ask them if they would like to go out for a bite to eat or a cup of coffee or something and see if they accept or reject your offer before you lay it all out on the table in front of them.
If the answer is YES - then just take it real slow and see when it goes.
If the answer is no - then just walk away and use this as a learning experience.
If you feel weird, then chances are - they perceive you as being weird.
The only person that can control that is YOU!
Buy normal clothes, wear your hair like other people does, don't do weird things that turns other people off and don't try to be right all the time - even if you are.
Being quiet will sometimes get you more dates then being loud and outgoing. So keep your talk small and don't say anything more then you have to.
There's a very, very good chance that some people (especially those who know you) will see you in a better light than you see yourself.
That's a good one for all of us to remember... Bearing in mind that the opposite can also be true.
I guess that's part of what's meant by, "Know Thyself".
Yeah I suppose attraction is so subjective; I have my own standards about how I should or want to look, but someone might potentially be attracted to me according to their own standards/preferences I suppose, which could be different to mine in some senses.
It's hard not to be incredulous at these things, but it would seem that that is how things work between people.
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As you get older, you tend not to be as outgoing as you were when you were younger.
The probable answer would be to ask them if they would like to go out for a bite to eat or a cup of coffee or something and see if they accept or reject your offer before you lay it all out on the table in front of them.
If the answer is YES - then just take it real slow and see when it goes.
If the answer is no - then just walk away and use this as a learning experience.
If you feel weird, then chances are - they perceive you as being weird.
The only person that can control that is YOU!
Buy normal clothes, wear your hair like other people does, don't do weird things that turns other people off and don't try to be right all the time - even if you are.
Being quiet will sometimes get you more dates then being loud and outgoing. So keep your talk small and don't say anything more then you have to.
Again, thanks, but as I said above, this is absolutely not someone I am going to be asking out or something I will be pursuing in view of getting an answer. It's not like that.
I really honestly just wanted to know what people thought about picking up on subtle cues and the idea of being seen in a different way than how you see yourself, as I find the idea both boggling and intriguing in some ways.
I am able to take care of myself. And again, I am leaving this person alone. I am just curious about this question. In a general sense as well; I am interested in other people's experiences.
I don't want any dating advice at all, just to make that clear!! !! !! !! !
That wasn't the point of this post at all.
Thank you,
Cf
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As for picking up subtleties, sometimes it is glaring obvious and other times I'm oblivious. Sometimes I'm aware I'm missing something,but not what. I just feel it like an undercurrent in the water...sensed but invisible..can't put my finger on it.
I'm starting to ramble I think, but that's what your question brought to mind.
Thank you, this makes a great deal of sense indeed. The gemstone analogy.
It's interesting, because I suppose it means people may only see the positive aspects of us in some senses, and not all the negative things that have happened to us in our pasts, our mistakes, and so on. I suppose in some senses the adage of ''Playing to Your Strengths'' becomes very important at this point.
I wonder if everyone has problems with this, or if it really is just an autistic thing? It is a good excercise in imagination to bear in mind that everyone is operating within their own ''reality tunnel'' (so to speak) at all times I suppose.
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There's a very, very good chance that some people (especially those who know you) will see you in a better light than you see yourself.
That's a good one for all of us to remember... Bearing in mind that the opposite can also be true.
I guess that's part of what's meant by, "Know Thyself".
Oh don't go feeling bad now, if you do, about being self-depreciating to not be a bad person (as you saw it)
You're a very good person, though I don't know you. You can love yourself (yes really!) and have it be a good thing.
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How others view you can have nothing to do with how you see yourself.
I have a friend who cares a little too much about me(not in that way, theres a huge age gap), whenever Im feeling fine and Im happy she begins to pester me about whats wrong.
To make things even better she is like you dont need to tell me whats wrong but I know that theres something wrong ...
If you want to be sure there´s only one way to find out what he feels:
Suggest an outing(prefferably just for the two of you) and see how he reacts. Coffee, that new movie that has just been released, that thing that he has talked to you about so much...
If he : has other plans and doesnt offer a rescheduling/ doesnt ask if you would like to meet again some time after its done, chances are he is not that interested in you
"Picking up on subtle cues" is supposed to be the very thing we aspies are UN able to do. Its supposed to be a defining trait of the spectrum.
Maybe we pick up on different things. Or maybe we can pick up on the same things nts pick up on if motivated.
Ive sometimes mediated between pairs of people at work when I instantly understood what both person A and person B were saying in a dialogue, but A and B were misunderstanding each other.
But that was more verbal nuances than body language nuances I was reading.
Apparently you want to KNOW if this person is sweet on you- but are NOT interested in dating them. Thats even more complicated than trying to date them. No advice.
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Maybe you should give her a chance. If she really likes you for real, go for it!
If she's faking, leave her alone then.
But if you can't tell, better to ask her about it.
I don't know if it'll work but give it a shot, maybe she will like you back and all.
I think I have met some people before that saw past my Aspergers, like 2 of the employees (1 which was the assistant manager) in my local Hot Topic, whom I befriended and were really nice. Some are just bad, like when the manager of my local Best Buy sounded like it wants me dead for something I didn't even do (he even had no idea I had Aspergers, He just thought I did something bad).
It's the other way around; I'm a female and this person is male.
But thank you anyway. This is not a situation where feelings will be shared either by the way; I won't approach this person.
I am just wondering if I am right that there is something going on or not for one, but also was genuinely curious about the idea that someone could like me and see me in a way that I don't see myself, or something like that.
Thank you
Oh my bad! I thought it was about a girl! I should have double checked 1st...
And you're welcome. I least I tried... =)
Well do what best works for you, and good luck!
I have a friend who cares a little too much about me(not in that way, theres a huge age gap), whenever Im feeling fine and Im happy she begins to pester me about whats wrong.
To make things even better she is like you dont need to tell me whats wrong but I know that theres something wrong ...
If you want to be sure there´s only one way to find out what he feels:
Suggest an outing(prefferably just for the two of you) and see how he reacts. Coffee, that new movie that has just been released, that thing that he has talked to you about so much...
If he : has other plans and doesnt offer a rescheduling/ doesnt ask if you would like to meet again some time after its done, chances are he is not that interested in you
Again, as I said above, I am in no way intending to approach this person and it would be inappropriate to do so. I am not asking this question as a means to an end. I don't want to know for sure what he thinks, and I am not going to pursue that at all, whatsoever.
I am curious, but I am going to leave this person completely alone.
Sorry if that is confusing. I kind of regret posting this now.
I guess I had my question answered earlier; people's own experiences can shape their perceptions, and yes we can be seen with a different lense. I wasn't sure, but I am going to go with the idea that it's possible.
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Maybe we pick up on different things. Or maybe we can pick up on the same things nts pick up on if motivated.
Ive sometimes mediated between pairs of people at work when I instantly understood what both person A and person B were saying in a dialogue, but A and B were misunderstanding each other.
But that was more verbal nuances than body language nuances I was reading.
Apparently you want to KNOW if this person is sweet on you- but are NOT interested in dating them. Thats even more complicated than trying to date them. No advice.
I disagree with this. I think that autistics (some at least) can pick up on much more subtle and underlying emotional things going on than NTs. When I walk into a room, I can feel other people's emotions as if they are my own. I become overwhelmed by other people's emotions, and I am hyper-tuned into other people's emotions. That's one of the reasons I can't cope with being around other people.
Not picking up on broader social happenings is indeed a spectrum thing, and that I do struggle with. I pick up on the underlying stuff; I don't understand the obvious stuff. This paradox is well documented amongst many autists.
This doesn't mean I always get it right though. I don't think that I do, which is kind of one of the points of this post.
I am sorry to be confusing!! You're right, maybe my enquiry makes little sense to anyone but me
Thank you anyway.
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I disagree with this. I think that autistics (some at least) can pick up on much more subtle and underlying emotional things going on than NTs. When I walk into a room, I can feel other people's emotions as if they are my own. I become overwhelmed by other people's emotions, and I am hyper-tuned into other people's emotions. That's one of the reasons I can't cope with being around other people.
Not picking up on broader social happenings is indeed a spectrum thing, and that I do struggle with. I pick up on the underlying stuff; I don't understand the obvious stuff. This paradox is well documented amongst many autists.
I find this interesting. Sometimes I can pick up on things that other people don't. Random examples: This person is lying through his teeth. This person is so set on being right that they're not listening. It's almost like a broadcast sometimes. I always wonder if other people do this and it's just mundane. Sometimes I'll make a comment on what I observe and the listener seems truly surprised. I don't think it's just an autistic concept, but maybe it's processed differently?