Do people really believe that confidence, social skills,...

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...good hygiene, a positive attitude and a great sense of humour (as a guy) is enough to make you seriously attractive to the majority of women?

Like it's all about what you do, but not how you look?

Discuss.

No, I don't believe that. Don't get me wrong, though. They do help a fair bit.

I run the risk of including myself in this category, but Quasimodo could have Einstein's brain, James Bond's charm, and Jay Z's lifestyle. There's one problem with this - he's still Quasimodo, so he's still single.

I sadly see many threads (including my own)where the author is willing to address almost everything except for one thing - the possibility that the person writing it might actually be ugly or not attractive to people in their province, and attempting to work on that might improve their chances. This isn't of course, something I'm terribly approving of but sadly it is the world we live in. I could be found attractive somewhere else but I may in my own town be considered a poor selection.

Uprising, just eat Twinkies. Those will help shield you when the apocalypse comes.

"Rate-me" sites are actually a good indicator of how attractive you are to people if you get enough votes, yet when you get like seriously poor scores, it's like a permanent slap in the face + a bad fame.

Yeah, I found this to be true. There used to be a site called hotornot, is there still something like that now? I found back when I used to use it in 2000 standards were nowhere near as picky as now, so I was getting 7-8's.

But what if the apocalypse is actually me?

Edit: Lol, the twinkie-generated fat is gonna be a nice protective layer of shield no bullet will ever get through, I agree, immortality it gives.

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Lol, not surprising as I've also noticed that the issue of being unattractive as a guy being so "devastating" and the whole mass hysteria about it, the whole focus on it, is quite a recent thing.

Regardless, those qualities certainly improve your chances by a significant margin. And as for attractiveness, most people fall somewhere in the middle. They aren't Brad Pitt or Heidi Klum, but they also aren't the creature from "Alien". Attractiveness isn't entirely fixed either, there are steps one can take to improve their attractiveness, and for the vast majority they can improve it enough to be considered attractive, at least by a portion of the population. And with relationships, all it takes is one person.

People of average attractiveness are not going to be attractive to the 'majority' of folk of the opposite (or same) sex. No matter how great their personality.

People of average attractiveness will often have great success though.

I hate to say this, but some of it is 'x' factor. I'm definitely in the average category in looks. I'm funny, smart, reasonable hygiene. But some days I'm ON IT. No question I can pull a bloke in a night club. (I'm old, too - 43 and overweight) and some days, meh, not so much. I do have a lot of presence though which some men can find really attractive.

People of average attractiveness are not going to be attractive to the 'majority' of folk of the opposite (or same) sex. No matter how great their personality.

People of average attractiveness will often have great success though.

I hate to say this, but some of it is 'x' factor. I'm definitely in the average category in looks. I'm funny, smart, reasonable hygiene. But some days I'm ON IT. No question I can pull a bloke in a night club. (I'm old, too - 43 and overweight) and some days, meh, not so much. I do have a lot of presence though which some men can find really attractive.

Well, Stephen hawking has a wife and he's not that more handsome than Quasimodo.

But again, he's also an extreme case of intelligence, most humans aren't.

Extreme case of bank-account also.

you people make me so cross sometimes. Stephen Hawking wasn't always wheelchair bound. In fact, at University he coxed for his College at Oxford and looked quite cute in a geeky sort of way.

Here you go: http://www.theweek.co.uk/pictures/30087 ... 0/page/1/0

But he got married after getting his health collapse.

^ not for the first time either

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1291122/thumb ... cebook.jpg

don't make me do all the googling, there is a massive wiki page on stephen, read it, also he is from a different generation, don't forget that

It helps.

The shy, unconfident guy who hasn't bathed in a week probably isn't going to beat out anyone.