Why are some females so nasty?

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I am curious to why some (quite a few, actually) females seem so nasty. I suppose people call it bitchy. And I mean in a general sense, as well. Not just when it comes to dating an that. It always seems to me like, if you get into a general disagreement with another guy, it feels like the verbal equivialent of getting punched in the chest. If you get into a disagreement with a women or something, then they're not content with just the usual. They get the knives out, like they're intent on not just harming you, but gauging your eyes out.

I seem to remember getting a lot more crap from girls at school than the boys. I didn't even talk to the girls at school or go near them, yet some of them really had it in for me. If you seemed wierd to other people, then they sure as hell were going to make an issue out of it.

It's also troublesome, in the fact that all the guys try and come along to 'rescue' the women or whatever and back them up, if you get into a disagreement. I had some woman trying to rip me apart the otherday, for something that didn't even concern her. I called her a cam whore, which was an accurate assessment of her, and everything went nuclear.

I know of some women who aren't like that, but I am unsure of whether that's simply because I only speak to them on a professional level. For all I know, they might be exactly the same as these others if I were to encounter them elsewhere. Being at war with an entire gender doesn't feel a good position to be in. Especially when you consider the odds. I would need to have access to the entire nuclear arsenal of the USA to stand a chance.

It's actually harder than I thought it would be to live in complete seclusion from the rest of the world. The list of people types I need to avoid grows longer all the time.

I've tried my best to make this seem not completely sexist to some people.

I definitely notice this in the dating world - as far as I can tell it's an American thing. Most American women are spoiled, narcisissitc b*****s who won't even look at a guy unless he has 6-pack abs, a high-paying job, great looks or perfect social skills. I'm guessing it has a lot to do with how they're raised - ie the "princess syndrome."

I have a nasty streak a mile wide and three miles long, and I don't like it. Thing is, I'm aware of it, and I have been since I can remember. It's difficult to fight at points, especially during certain times of the month, but I still recognize it.

With that insight, and all the women I've known, I'd say it's in-built and innate. Women have their own tier of hierarchy, for the most part, and they way it's handled is different than the way it is for men. We're 'underhanded,' I guess you could say, as opposed to the more visual, brutish displays in which men are more likely to partake. Quite simply, I'm sure it reflects biology, and the fact women have to be more careful in general, have less physical impact, yet remain as near the top as they can for resources. That's just the first thing that comes to mind.

Then, of course, there's the whole issue of having to be pickier about mates and the like. Now, I've not really witnessed what you described, but it would seem that women who want higher positions would pick on what they perceive to be the weakest males, of course all the while backed by their jocks or other higher ranking men. It's a way to diffuse their own hierarchical insecurities.

I have a hard time intuitively grasping hierarchies, and so I have noticed that, although I have the drive to be aggressive and underhandedly nasty, it comes out differently than it does for other women. I tend also to be more honest. But I remember going through this stuff at school, and it did occasionally seep in intuitively as well, probably thanks to otherwise intact social intuition. I learned quickly what it was all about just to keep my head above water.

All that aside, though, if you're outright insulting women, you're going to get it right back in your face. Whether or not the woman you called a 'camwhore' is or not, the word is still insulting and you're going to get a barrage of insults and defensiveness back at you. Can you really blame her? I would handle it differently myself, in a much more subtle manner, but when I get that from guys there's no doubt I have a negative reaction. You should probably try to understand this part of it, because you may be invoking the nastier side of women regardless due to your lack of understanding and resultant faux pas.

It's gonna sound sexist, but I think it has a lot to do with hormones. That and some people just use others as outlets for their frustration, of course guys can get hormones too.

Not to change the subject, but it's sort of on topic, anyway. Toad, first off, nice signature. Second, you've had that Eve icon for a while, which is funny because everyone who sees that movie and knows me says she's me. I have to agree. It fits with the topic because she's a rather moody, cold and calculating b***h at first, then remains moody, but has a heart of gold.

Some women are like this, hardened by life and how their personalities let them experience the world. Either way, women are a handful, and I'll be the first to admit it, and I really don't think it's a cultural thing at all.

I suppose, then, it is the right idea to avoid women like the plague, then. It's the final nail in the coffin of the idea of ever having a girl friend, but no one would take me the way I am, so that doesn't really matter.

Why are some females nasty?

Because they can be.

Honestly, though, HAL, the way you talk makes me wonder how you present yourself to people in the first place. Now, I don't think you're trying to do anything wrong at all, but before you go blaming the women (even if I don't agree with their behaviour), it's best to get as accurate and clear a picture as you can of yourself, and then the other side of the issue -- in this case, women.

You could avoid them, or you could learn. If you have any women friends or colleagues with which you have good rapport, maybe ask them some frank questions about the way you come across, and tell them the problem you have. I do know there are women and other people out there who would understand your predicament, and I can't see it going wrong if you ask with complete honesty. I know I, for one, would certainly be willing to help you out there, if I were there.

but they're made of "Sugar, spice& everything nice" ?

Women have always either treated me like crap or seen me as "just a friend." Though there was one time at work a married woman wanted me - she was quite good looking but I'm not going there. When I wouldn't do it she hit me so hard I had a bruise on my arm for like 3 weeks. She quit the job like a month later.

I wish I knew the answer on why girls could be so nasty but I have no answers. Of course out of every 20 or so girls there's at least one decent one. You just have to be very careful with girls. I have a mental radar where I can tell right away if a girl is bad or not.

Well, that's hitting on one problem, then; you're dealing with monkey social structure, here, and if you're in the background, you're a zeta. That means if you come out and stand your ground on anything, it's as if you're challenging that known status. Now, I'm not saying that's definitely what's going on with you, but I've seen this myself, with myself. People don't like it. What I've learned is that I'd much rather be more in the middle or foreground and myself than in the background being walked on. Submissive lifestyles are generally only desired when someone has been conditioned to like them.

As for calling her a cam whore, it only fights fire with fire. She may have been in the wrong, but the best thing to do is to keep your cool and not fight back, as far as I've ever learned. That tends to be ten times more effective in a lot of cases.