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Who_Am_I
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02 Dec 2010, 8:25 am

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Oh, thank God that someone made this thread.
It used to be worse here- in my early days in the forum, there was a guy who more than once expressed the opinion that all women deserved to be raped, and noone batted an eyelid- but when a female poster made a thread expressing frustration with men (it was entitled "I hate men", but the actual content was fairly mild) it got jumped on and locked for being sexist, and that type of thing was fairly typical of the forums at the time.

KenM...he was fun

He made the "all women are demons etc" threads. It was a different guy who I was thinking of; and his threads were earlier than the ones by KenM that I remember.

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02 Dec 2010, 8:57 am

Was the whole William Freund thing about his inability to get a date?

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02 Dec 2010, 9:30 am

I kind of object to the title of this thread. It is obviously directed at specific individuals, not just the "men here" (of which I am one).

I read this thing and keep wondering if you are referring to me, but I don't see why you would.

I certainly don't believe I am owed anything (except mutual respect) by women. My troubles with relationships are no one's fault. I am not interested in dating "out of my league".I just need to figure out how to bridge the divide created by my AS between me and a nice intelligent woman who doesn't need to be a supermodel by any stretch of the imagination.

The fact that so many posters here are women makes it a valuable resource for me and I wish the "bad apples" that are the subject of this thread would get ignored rather than showered with commentary like this.

Please consider.

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02 Dec 2010, 9:32 am

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Yes! This is a great post! Respectful, thoughtful, intelligent!

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02 Dec 2010, 9:57 am

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It's easier just to lump us all into the bad apple barrel. Cheers!

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02 Dec 2010, 10:17 am

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It's easier just to lump us all into the bad apple barrel. Cheers!

That it is. I also don't like the personal attacks against members like ToadOfSteel who has never made a single sexist post.

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02 Dec 2010, 10:44 am

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That it is. I also don't like the personal attacks against members like ToadOfSteel who has never made a single sexist post.

Seconded.

And for all those people who giggled at the cutsie video suggesting that WP guys are whiny girlie-men, here's one that's WAY closer to reality:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9S5-EB8dR8[/youtube]

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02 Dec 2010, 11:48 am

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thats not gonna happen lol

and women here rarely seem to have problems getting dates (I guess they mature faster, and generally are more aware of the world and social rules then AS men are)

It is simple biology. Women are biologically more valuable than men, so getting a date,etc is far easier. Now getting commitment,callbacks,etc... That's a larger issue.

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02 Dec 2010, 11:52 am

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That it is. I also don't like the personal attacks against members like ToadOfSteel who has never made a single sexist post.

I explained that like 5 times, jesus christ don't you people read?! :roll:

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02 Dec 2010, 11:53 am

Moog wrote:

Grisha wrote:

It's easier just to lump us all into the bad apple barrel. Cheers!

the good people should know who they are

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02 Dec 2010, 11:55 am

RICKY5 wrote:

It is simple biology. Women are biologically more valuable than men.

As in the ability to have a child? Sorry, not every woman can have children. In escence, that makes some women more valuable then other women.

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02 Dec 2010, 12:00 pm

no one is more valuable then anyone
because without a man you can't have children
(yes I know in this day and age you can work around that, but there still needs 2 to tango no matter how far)

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02 Dec 2010, 12:03 pm

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That it is. I also don't like the personal attacks against members like ToadOfSteel who has never made a single sexist post.

Is it? That's a shame. I find Henry Rollins very witty and I have enjoyed his music for decades (he almost invented L.A. punk rock) and he wrote a very entertaining book about life on the road.

But
BUT
BUT

attempting to date somebody who was that judgemental about my entertainment choices is exhausting and ultimately doomed. I did attempt, once (not Henry Rollins, of course). He would say "why do you like that?" if whatever I was reading, listening to or attending (movies, plays, concerts) didn't pass intellectual muster with him. He did this on the first 2 dates (he didn't order me out of the car and I rather doubt Rollins ever has done that either..that was just fun hyperbole). By the 3rd date I was inventing things I thought would meet his approval, with mixed success. After a few more dates I just gave up. If I want to listen to Led Zeppelin, I will damn well listen to Led Zeppelin and I don't want an artistically minded lecture on what dinosaurs they are and how (band that only 100 New Yorkers know about) is superior.

So I really hope you aren't being That Guy on dates.

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02 Dec 2010, 12:10 pm

Erisad wrote:

nthach wrote:

LittleTigger wrote:

I guess I am lucky that I was
able to just throw "love" and "dating"
out the window and go back
to play witing my hotwheels
and GI Joes and Legos.

those are far more fun than dating
and dum old poopy reships.

I like my Pokemon Platinum game
as well. It does not expect things
from me that I cant do. It just
plays.

grow the hell up. thanks.

Hey, that's uncalled for. Some people are satisfied with not venturing into the dating world. It's just not for everyone. My brother's that way too. :/

For as lame as I find Pokemon to be, you really have to dive into what makes YOU happy.

I do honestly wonder if guys and gals on here want a relationship just because they feel like they missed out on something everyone else has. I used to feel the same way.

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02 Dec 2010, 12:34 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:

Did I make that thread?

That title sounds familiar. Of course I don't remember what was said in it or what happened. I remember being frustrated about men and their sex drives and how they act. But now I am beyond that because my husband doesn't ask for it like every few days anymore or every week. I also remember being disgusted when I got told most men would not want to wait six months for sex and it sounded like to me that is all they are after so they are with the woman for it and if they don't get it, bye bye. It just made me want to make them wait that long to have it so I know they aren't using me for sex like my first ex did (I still feel that way). Then I remember getting accused of playing minds games and it's something "NTs would do" and I was like "WTF, I will not be used for sex so it's my only way to see if the man wants me for me, not for my body." Then the responses would change after that because I get told I would have to tell the guy upfront about it or else he would think I am playing mind games with him by making him.

I still think sex is over rated and still get disgusted about it when men use women as objects. It's also rare for me to run into a guy online who is icky. I just block them or ignore them.

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02 Dec 2010, 12:35 pm

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I'm not, and I don't think Henry is either, it's just a funny dialog to help people understand the difficulty some people (myself included) have in connecting with women on an intellectual level. I would never criticize someone for loving "Dancing with the Stars" or being really into watching professional sports, but I would probably silently write them off as incompatible romantically speaking. Shallow? probably, but I don't see it changing, especially at my age. Looks have little or nothing to do with it. "Sit me down, shut me up, and tell me 10 things that I don't already know..." (sigh...)

On a completely different subject, when I was a snotty punk rock kid I used to laugh at people into "dinosaur rock" that came out like, maybe 8-9 years before? I just went to the Adolescents 30-year anniversary show a couple of weeks ago, now who's the "dinosaur"? (and secretly, I've never NOT liked Led Zeppelin.)

If you'll excuse me, I have to go see what's on the History Channel right now.. . ;-)

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