No prospect of future GF = Get a prostitute instead?
Erisad wrote:
Then how can you possibly pay a hooker and still respect women? You can't. You're saying, "hey, I only want you for sex because I don't value you as a human being based on your profession and genetalia. Here's the money to make sure that you leave after we're done."
It really isn't that hard.
When you pay a guy for food at a fast-food place, do you think "hey, I only want you for cashier services, because I don't value you as a human being based on your profession. Here's the money to make sure you don't follow me after we're done"? Or is it more like "here's some money for food." "OK, here's your change, and I'll get that right out for you."
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So your vagina won't get stretched over time? Drat. Hope I don't marry a man that's phallically endowed. >.<
I'm not the most knowledgeable person about vaginas (I don't have one for one thing), but babies do come out of them. I don't think any size penis is going to break it or anything.
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Not in the way he said it. He said that getting slu*ty friends are better than prostitutes because not only do they give you sex but you don't have to pay them. That's even worse. Lying and pretending to be friends with someone just because they are likely to put out is cruel. "No, I never really appreciated your friendship at all. I just wanted to do you. Now that it's done, never call me again." :/
He said "just get a few slu*ty friends", he said nothing about lying or pretend friendship.
I'm also pretty sure that friends-with-benefits would fit his scenario better than one-night-stands.
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...are some men really that crippled without sex? It's like they're worried that their dicks will fall off. They should save their hooker money and give it to a psychologist instead. :/
Male sex drives are frequently pretty strong and insistent. You don't really seem to get that.
There's nothing wrong with not getting that (I don't get how some females can pretend sex doesn't exist), just understand that the people that are different from you are different.
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RICKY5 wrote:
Erisad wrote:
RICKY5 wrote:
Erisad wrote:
RICKY5 wrote:
Erisad wrote:
RICKY5 wrote:
The way I see it is that it's a great way to get rid of the anxiety of being a virgin and getting rid of that feeling of being "left out" since you are often f***ing girls who look just like the ones who rejected or "friendzoned" you when you were younger.
However, you'll just find out that you're left out in a different way. You'd be the only one who hasn't had sex with a girl without paying her immediately afterwards[/b]. Frankly, I think turning to a prostitute is pathetic and sad. I would have more respect for a guy that's a virgin waiting for a good relationship to happen than a guy who paid a hooker just so[ he wouldn't be picked on for being a virgin. :/
I never really felt "left out" afterwards since the guys I saw around me often were not particularly happy with the ups and downs of their relationships, so having one never really appealed to me after I lost my virginity.
KInda helps when you are banging girls far hotter than your acquaintances girlfriends could hope to be.
I like the regularity and affection I get "paying for it" as opposed to the ups, downs, and sideways that come with girlfriends.
Virgins who wait do just that. Nothing ever happens when you wait. For most guys, instincts tell them to go out and get laid. If instincts are not satisfied they get redirected into places less than optimal.
Wow, you are a piece of work aren't you? I can't tell if you're trolling or are really that big of a misogynist. :/
Not necessarily. They can redirect that energy into their career or a hobby. It doesn't have to be some other form of deviancy. :/
SImply pointing out how so many of the male virgins on this board beat themselves up about this.
And they don't have to. Sex is so overrated I don't understand people's fascination with it. I guess it's different for guys. :/
It is very different for guys.
Indeed. Girls don't get erectile dyfunction from excessively prolonged virginity.
swbluto wrote:
Indeed. Girls don't get erectile dyfunction from excessively prolonged virginity.
what is your source that this happens to men?
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Ancalagon wrote:
When you pay a guy for food at a fast-food place, do you think "hey, I only want you for cashier services, because I don't value you as a human being based on your profession. Here's the money to make sure you don't follow me after we're done"? Or is it more like "here's some money for food." "OK, here's your change, and I'll get that right out for you."
No, because a cashier isn't expected to sell his body for money. While being a fast food cashier sucks (I was one) I don't think it is even comparable to a prostitute. You aren't raping the cashier, just asking him to get some food for you.
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I'm not the most knowledgeable person about vaginas (I don't have one for one thing), but babies do come out of them. I don't think any size penis is going to break it or anything.
I don't know. I've heard of women who had to go to the hospital and have stitches put in after being raped or having sex with someone who had a big one. And women tend to need some repair after having a child. You think a vag will just go back to normal after squeezing a baby out without any trouble? Hell no.
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He said "just get a few slu*ty friends", he said nothing about lying or pretend friendship.
I'm also pretty sure that friends-with-benefits would fit his scenario better than one-night-stands.
I'm also pretty sure that friends-with-benefits would fit his scenario better than one-night-stands.
Well, I see it as someone who is making friends with these girls just because they look easy. That's not cool. Unless you genuinely like them as friends first and it's a mutual agreement, then it's fine. So yeah a friends with benefits thing. Also, a girl doesn't have to be a slut to agree to be friends with benefits.
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Male sex drives are frequently pretty strong and insistent. You don't really seem to get that.
There's nothing wrong with not getting that (I don't get how some females can pretend sex doesn't exist), just understand that the people that are different from you are different.
There's nothing wrong with not getting that (I don't get how some females can pretend sex doesn't exist), just understand that the people that are different from you are different.
It's easy. Imagine being objectified since puberty and never being taken seriously by men at work or other places just for being born female. Then if you want sex, you're a whore and if you don't want it you're an ice cold prude. And a woman can't be out alone at night for fear that some psychopath will rape her and scar her for life. With all the double standards and risks it carries, it's no wonder there are so many women who don't like sex. Not to mention a lot of us can't orgasm from intercourse (and a small number have never orgasmed at all, like me) so why would we do something that doesn't generally feel good? Also it takes a lot of trust to allow a man to sleep with us and just demanding it for money as if you were buying a DVD is insulting.
swbluto - Yeah but you guys can just take a pill to get it back up again. If a woman can't orgasm, there's no convenient pill for her to take. We need therapy, special lotions and for everything to be just right and just maybe it'll happen. Try having genitalia that is as difficult to figure out as a rubix cube. :/
Erisad wrote:
mv wrote:
And Erisad, please do not lump all women into your giant "girls don't like sex" umbrella. I happen to LOVE it, and so does just about everyone I know, unless they're lying for some strange reason. When you get over your initial reactions to it and/or find a good partner, you may, too.
Take it from me, an old lady compared to most of you, who's been around the block a few times.
Take it from me, an old lady compared to most of you, who's been around the block a few times.
Trust me, I'm not the only girl that doesn't like it. And girls don't seem to be as distraught when they're a virgin in their mid-twenties. Something about being rammed in your nethers over and over sounds extremely painful and not fun. Besides, we have all the downsides of sex when things don't go smoothly. We can get ripped down there if he's too big, we can get pregnant and get mistaken for a prostitute if you just so happen to have multiple partners in the same way a guy would. How is a woman supposed to enjoy herself if all the risk is on her? :/
Nerve endings. That's how.
You can't even masturbate well enough to give yourself pleasure; how do you expect a poor guy to know how to make you feel good?
I'm one of the (apparently) vanishingly rare females who enjoy sex. Perhaps I and those like me should start a club.
And I think I see Ricky5's point about all the ups and downs of relationships; it seems to me that all he's saying is that prostitutes provide some sort of consistency/reliability/predictability. What's so evil about wanting to know what to expect? I strongly disagree with the idea that all women can give is sex (we're actually very similar to people), but I completely understand wanting to know what to expect from someone.
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Erisad wrote:
mv wrote:
And Erisad, please do not lump all women into your giant "girls don't like sex" umbrella. I happen to LOVE it, and so does just about everyone I know, unless they're lying for some strange reason. When you get over your initial reactions to it and/or find a good partner, you may, too.
Take it from me, an old lady compared to most of you, who's been around the block a few times.
Take it from me, an old lady compared to most of you, who's been around the block a few times.
Trust me, I'm not the only girl that doesn't like it. And girls don't seem to be as distraught when they're a virgin in their mid-twenties. Something about being rammed in your nethers over and over sounds extremely painful and not fun. Besides, we have all the downsides of sex when things don't go smoothly. We can get ripped down there if he's too big, we can get pregnant and get mistaken for a prostitute if you just so happen to have multiple partners in the same way a guy would. How is a woman supposed to enjoy herself if all the risk is on her? :/
Nerve endings. That's how.
You can't even masturbate well enough to give yourself pleasure; how do you expect a poor guy to know how to make you feel good?
I'm one of the (apparently) vanishingly rare females who enjoy sex. Perhaps I and those like me should start a club.
And I think I see Ricky5's point about all the ups and downs of relationships; it seems to me that all he's saying is that prostitutes provide some sort of consistency/reliability/predictability. What's so evil about wanting to know what to expect? I strongly disagree with the idea that all women can give is sex (we're actually very similar to people), but I completely understand wanting to know what to expect from someone.
If they're so focused on sex, I would think that they would have it all figured out unless they're only focusing on their own pleasure. Now there's so much pressure on the woman to orgasm that if she can't, there's something wrong with her. At least I'm an awesome faker, otherwise it would never be overwith.
Nothing I guess, unless your partner is going through a rough time and just isn't in the mood and you freak out on them for not wanting to have sex when you want to. How could a woman dare to defy a man's desire? Wouldn't having sex at regular intervals all the time would make it less interesting after a while. "It's Wednesday at 8 o' clock, okay time for sex again!"
hyperlexian wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Indeed. Girls don't get erectile dyfunction from excessively prolonged virginity.
what is your source that this happens to men?
Didn't you know that men who have had prolonged virginity for about 100 years and more are likely to have a dysfunctional penis?
And yes, girls don't ever get penile dysfunction.
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blunnet wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Indeed. Girls don't get erectile dyfunction from excessively prolonged virginity.
what is your source that this happens to men?
Didn't you know that men who have had prolonged virginity for about 100 years and more are likely to have a dysfunctional penis?
How many people live over a hundred years, let alone stay celibate the entire time? Seems rather unlikely. Some source material would be appreciated.
Erisad wrote:
How many people live over a hundred years, let alone stay celibate the entire time? Seems rather unlikely. Some source material would be appreciated.
Isn't it a bit obvious?
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let alone stay celibate the entire time?
Seriously, you seem to be implying that a man can't stay celibate the entire time, do you think so?
blunnet wrote:
Erisad wrote:
How many people live over a hundred years, let alone stay celibate the entire time? Seems rather unlikely. Some source material would be appreciated.
Isn't it a bit obvious?
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let alone stay celibate the entire time?
Seriously, you seem to be implying that a man can't stay celibate the entire time, do you think so?
This thread seems to be made on that theory, doesn't it? :/
blunnet wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Indeed. Girls don't get erectile dyfunction from excessively prolonged virginity.
what is your source that this happens to men?
Didn't you know that men who have had prolonged virginity for about 100 years and more are likely to have a dysfunctional penis?
And yes, girls don't ever get penile dysfunction.
you're joking, right? just checking.
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Who_Am_I wrote:
And I think I see Ricky5's point about all the ups and downs of relationships; it seems to me that all he's saying is that prostitutes provide some sort of consistency/reliability/predictability. What's so evil about wanting to know what to expect? I strongly disagree with the idea that all women can give is sex (we're actually very similar to people), but I completely understand wanting to know what to expect from someone.
That is exactly my point. I really don't care one bit about the ups and downs BS.
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Erisad wrote:
This thread seems to be made on that theory, doesn't it? :/
Not really, because not every lonely man or virgin man is going to visit a prostitute. And the OP asked a question about what others think would be the most "reasonable" thing to do.
True but I've been told a couple times in this thread that sex is really important for guys and their drives are really strong and must be satisfied or something horrible will happen. So apparently remaining celibate would seem to kill some of these men or make them go insane. The most reasonable thing to do is not see the prostitute because you'd be supporting sex trafficking which isn't cool. But apparently a lot of the men in here don't seem to care about that. If they can get no strings attached sex for cash, why should they care that they're pretty much raping the prostitute? :/
RICKY5 wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
And I think I see Ricky5's point about all the ups and downs of relationships; it seems to me that all he's saying is that prostitutes provide some sort of consistency/reliability/predictability. What's so evil about wanting to know what to expect? I strongly disagree with the idea that all women can give is sex (we're actually very similar to people), but I completely understand wanting to know what to expect from someone.
That is exactly my point. I really don't care one bit about the ups and downs BS.
Really? You make it seem like women are worth nothing to you unless they're having sex with you. How dare they have feelings that inconvenience your boner? :/