6-Pack Abs

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If it has to be flawless, a simple hand test won't suffice. Some sort of experts should be involved. Maybe a certification system?

Lilya can read six-packs as good as blinds reading Braille.

Boo: Let's have dinner together tonight.

Lilya: Umm...wait...

*touching Boo's tummy.**

Lilya: Sorry, no.

Me: But I am hungry! I swear!

I guess that is a certain level of expertise.

I regret I ever said anything in this thread...

Let me see... If a tall, dark, handsome, intelligent and seemingly fit man would ask me for a dinner, I'd probably say "yes" without further investigation.

If a random guy approaches me on a dance floor and wants to suck my face off and lure me to bed, I expect him to be damn hot before I would consider some activity of the sort.

Lilya touching a guy's tummy.

Lilya: "Hmmmm....2 hours gym per day .....good swimmer.....IQ 130.....electrical engineer.....gentleman.... 100k annual. Good, I say yes."

But I am short, hairy dark, skinny and mentally ret*d.

Don't worry, Boo... We can still be buddies *Comforting hug*

No, I reject your buddy request.

Well, I'm 30, I better be mature. I guess I do have a certain experience and I can look back and see things more clearly than when I was a teen or even in my early 20s.

The last thing I want is to make this thread into some "poor me and f..k handsome men, they're all bastards" whining. After all, I'm fine: I am married to a (reasonably good looking man) who finds me attractive. So it's not like I'm trying to prove something personal here.

But I do think it's important for men to know (if they're interested in it) how women see certain things. We all know that, from the health side of the argument, it's healthy to work out. It can also be an interesting hobby or a way to build your confidence, like you said.

I just tried to point out why some women might find "6 pack guys" (or other attractive guys) intimidating. Maybe it's a similar mechanism why some men find certain highly attractive women intimidating (which results in the fact that decent guys rarely approach these women).

So I advise any decent guy who is interested in dating a nice girl and who wants to be liked for who he is, not to "advertise" his 6 pack on the first date or something. (I'm not saying anybody here does that, but there are guys who do it). Just like a woman with huge breasts shouldn't wear revealing tops if she wants to meet a guy who is interested in her personality, a 6 pack guy should keep his body as a surprise for later.

Because, seriously, only a b...h would turn down a man whose personality she likes because he has a 6 pack and she prefers men to be less muscular.

Noooooooooooooooooo................

Boo: Let's have dinner together tonight.

Lilya: Umm...wait...

*touching Boo's tummy.**

Lilya: Sorry, no.

Me: But I am hungry! I swear!

Lilya touching a guy's tummy.

Lilya: "Hmmmm....2 hours gym per day .....good swimmer.....IQ 130.....electrical engineer.....gentleman.... 100k annual. Good, I say yes."

It's ok Lilya, life isn't fair.

I have the right to reject you too.

That's very good advice and you come across as a very open minded person, I built my core and body through soccer, weightlifting, physical contact sports and yoga, I genuinely do it because it makes me feel better in myself and has lots of mental benefits but I wouldn't require my partner to have a six pack or have a low body fat ratio, I like contrast and I prefer women to be soft in contrast to me, I'm not sure how it would feel to rub my abdominal muscles against another set of abdominal muscles but I'd imagine it would feel different. I'm 6'3 and my ex girlfriend was only 5'3 and as petite as anything but it didn't matter to me, it just made me feel more protective towards her.

Of course we all have preferences, I would say that not all of us find conventional or typical to be attractive, I'm certainly someone who goes for women who don't fit the mark of typical beauty or what the media perceive to be beautiful, I couldn't care less. In fact, I could understand how some women wouldn't go for a guy that isn't as muscular as a professional bodybuilder or would be find it unattractive, less is more in some cases, It's similar for men too but if I truly fell for someone, I don't think it would matter at all.