Are more women than not willing to date Gastons

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05 May 2012, 12:41 am

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no, the women are pretty different in personality and appearance, but if it is skin tone that makes them similar we can compare... Halle Berry and Angelina Jolie.


I will agree that there's some degree of variation in who can be considered glamourous. But it seems undoubtable that certain people and characteristics have to be excluded so that the idea of 'glamour' can exist.

Also people who are within the realm of 'being glamourous' seem to mostly be individuals spotted by 'the industry' and given public personas that match current trends. I'm imagining Rihanna and Nikki Minaj in particular here. Two black Caribbean women with caucasian wigs, practised American accents etc. Michael Jackson is another one. In most cases I think, the more famous a person is, the more they need a persona manufactured towards current ideals of glamour and attractiveness.

excluding some people from the idea of glamour doesn't mean that there is a universal ideal.


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05 May 2012, 1:07 am

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Gaston from Beauty and the Beast that is. Basically men who mock the intelligence of others and are inconsiderate, self-centered, condescending, conceited, hypocritical, and egotistical! And are there few women who are as courageous as Belle in rejecting Gaston and his kind? If so, it'd make me hate life even more! It also shows that nice guys do finish last.


Do you think Gaston was a "nice guy?"

I didn't like how the story ended with the Beast turning into Brad Pitt. Turns my stomach into 2 4 6. I prefer the Beast as the Beast. Having him turn pretty made him worthy? For me, it ruined the story. The movie was sickening how they made that moment so glorious.

I gravitate toward non-blonde men with facial hair. Kindness, intelligence and honesty are high priorities for me. It's probably why I'm still single.


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05 May 2012, 1:22 am

I kind of find this one to be an odd example. The Beast as a nice guy? From what I remember of that movie the Beast was kind of a prick, too. Hell, the way I remember it Belle was almost the poster girl for Stockholm syndrome.

If I remember right the Beast kidnapped her dad and Belle agreed to exchange herself for her dad essentially becoming the Beast's prisoner. How f*****g romantic.

He was pretty verbally abusive to Belle, too. But Belle went Stockholm syndrome and convinced herself that just because the Beast was a verbally abusive douche who kidnapped her didn't mean that he wasn't a nice guy deep down.

Then when he loses his fur and horns everything was happily ever after. See girls! Belle's patience paid off, just keep putting up with your man's s**t until he turns into a prince.


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05 May 2012, 1:25 am

oddly this movie is the favourite of the current super ego b***h I've been dealing with.. She's got daddy issues out the wazoo and only hooks up with guys who stroke her ego like some anime meme's harbles.


She consistently goes after 'beasts' and tries to 'fix' them all the while using everyone else to boost her own atrociously poor self esteem.



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05 May 2012, 2:27 am

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I kind of find this one to be an odd example. The Beast as a nice guy? From what I remember of that movie the Beast was kind of a prick, too. Hell, the way I remember it Belle was almost the poster girl for Stockholm syndrome.

If I remember right the Beast kidnapped her dad and Belle agreed to exchange herself for her dad essentially becoming the Beast's prisoner. How f***ing romantic.

He was pretty verbally abusive to Belle, too. But Belle went Stockholm syndrome and convinced herself that just because the Beast was a verbally abusive douche who kidnapped her didn't mean that he wasn't a nice guy deep down.

Then when he loses his fur and horns everything was happily ever after. See girls! Belle's patience paid off, just keep putting up with your man's sh** until he turns into a prince.


Yeah but beast bought her dinner and gave her presents. That was like, totally nice and she was obligated to give him a chance, otherwise she would have put him in the friend zone and used him as an emotional tampon while she sat on a pile of all the books he gave her (because he's so nice) and ate bonbons out of talking dishes.

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Gaston from Beauty and the Beast that is. Basically men who mock the intelligence of others and are inconsiderate, self-centered, condescending, conceited, hypocritical, and egotistical! And are there few women who are as courageous as Belle in rejecting Gaston and his kind? If so, it'd make me hate life even more! It also shows that nice guys do finish last.


Do you think Gaston was a "nice guy?"

I didn't like how the story ended with the Beast turning into Brad Pitt. Turns my stomach into 2 4 6. I prefer the Beast as the Beast. Having him turn pretty made him worthy? For me, it ruined the story. The movie was sickening how they made that moment so glorious.

I gravitate toward non-blonde men with facial hair. Kindness, intelligence and honesty are high priorities for me. It's probably why I'm still single.


I agree. It kinda takes the wind out of a story about what's on the inside being important's sails if at the end everyone is made externally beautiful. I think a better example for the OP would have been Shrek.

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oddly this movie is the favourite of the current super ego b***h I've been dealing with.. She's got daddy issues out the wazoo and only hooks up with guys who stroke her ego like some anime meme's harbles.


She consistently goes after 'beasts' and tries to 'fix' them all the while using everyone else to boost her own atrociously poor self esteem.


I'm sorry you hate so many of the women you spend time around. It must really suck. It is tough to watch people be self-destructive.
Thanks for the update.


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05 May 2012, 2:33 am

Self destructive?

How would you like having your affections taken advantage of so the other person could make their Ex jealous? thats what she did to me. She used me to get her beast back. She uses people like kleenex. My only regret is I didn't see it for what it was.


I hate her with the fury of a thousand suns.



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05 May 2012, 3:59 am

Yes, the behavior you described does sound self destructive. Staying in bad relationships (romantic & friendly) typically isn't self preserving.


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05 May 2012, 4:04 am

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Yes, the behavior you described does sound self destructive. Staying in bad relationships (romantic & friendly) typically isn't self preserving.


I didn't stay in it. I got out of it as fast as I could as soon as I realized what was going on.



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05 May 2012, 4:10 am

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Yes, the behavior you described does sound self destructive. Staying in bad relationships (romantic & friendly) typically isn't self preserving.


I didn't stay in it. I got out of it as fast as I could as soon as I realized what was going on.


not you, her


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05 May 2012, 4:25 am

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Yes, the behavior you described does sound self destructive. Staying in bad relationships (romantic & friendly) typically isn't self preserving.


I didn't stay in it. I got out of it as fast as I could as soon as I realized what was going on.


not you, her


oh, She is a sociopath who needs constant re-affirmation of her fragile Ego, as soon as I quit giving it to her she dropped me like a bad habit.



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05 May 2012, 5:48 am

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oh, She is a sociopath who needs constant re-affirmation of her fragile Ego, as soon as I quit giving it to her she dropped me like a bad habit.


ok cool, refocusing


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05 May 2012, 6:15 am

rabbittss wrote:
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Yes, the behavior you described does sound self destructive. Staying in bad relationships (romantic & friendly) typically isn't self preserving.


I didn't stay in it. I got out of it as fast as I could as soon as I realized what was going on.


Good. Don't let anyone manipulate you with sh't like that. Next time someone tries to use you for emotional toilet paper, tell them that the only common denominator when guys "use" her is her. That's a low blow to her ego, while still being true.


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