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Codyrules37
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05 Oct 2013, 6:47 pm

especially if ur wife is fat or ugly



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05 Oct 2013, 6:48 pm

Codyrules37 wrote:
especially if ur wife is fat or ugly


What is it you're trying to contribute?



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05 Oct 2013, 6:50 pm

what im trying to say is that maybe a man is more likely to cheat if he has a high sex drive and his wife is unattractive. Such as being really obese.

thats all I got



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06 Oct 2013, 11:41 am

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Also, a word (or several) about "fulfilling needs".
The problem is that these aren't needs, they're dissatisfactions. .


Spoken like someone who doesn't truly have a grasp on how a lack of affection or physical contact can psychologically AND physically impact a person who does. I hate to fall back on those baby studies that people love to refer to, but they are accurate for a reason. Failure to thrive is real and its real for a reason. Depression due to loneliness is real and its real for a reason. Being denied contact by the person you crave it from most is a cruel, cruel reality and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. To belittle its necessity based on your own needs is .....well, jacked.

By strictest definition people don't "need" any thing beyond food, water and shelter in extreme temperatures. However, I'm betting you would say you have NEED of a job. Sure that can provide those things, but so do other avenues. I'm betting you would say you have NEED of a great many things that don't meet the requirements of the textbook definition of it. The key here is DEEMED NECESSITY and that's going to be different for every individual. Who am I or you or anyone else to tell someone what they do not NEED?



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06 Oct 2013, 11:45 am

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I highly doubt that "75%" statistic, particularly without seeing a source. The most trustworthy source I've seen says that 10% of married people will cheat at some point, but even that is not considered to be a reliable number.

To the topic, once you agree to marriage, you commit yourself to monogamy. The only exception is if the two of you agreed to other arrangements prior to tying the knot. To say that you want an open marriage after the fact is to not only go back on your word, but to break a solemn vow.


There are other "vows" that are part of that ceremony. They get broken all the time, especially in these relationships.

And again, I'm no advocate for open marriage. I couldn't do it, personally. I'm just saying, there is a flaw in the logic that the NT is wrong for seeking to fulfill their needs outside the marriage when there is no mention of the Aspi being just as wrong for not honoring the other vows taken. Cherish, honor and keep? I can tell you I don't feel ANY of that the vast majority of the time. Why is it the "forsaking all others" is the only one that gets held up as the deal breaker?



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06 Oct 2013, 5:22 pm

Quadmom wrote:
tarantella64 wrote:
Also, a word (or several) about "fulfilling needs".
The problem is that these aren't needs, they're dissatisfactions. .


Spoken like someone who doesn't truly have a grasp on how a lack of affection or physical contact can psychologically AND physically impact a person who does. I hate to fall back on those baby studies that people love to refer to, but they are accurate for a reason. Failure to thrive is real and its real for a reason. Depression due to loneliness is real and its real for a reason. Being denied contact by the person you crave it from most is a cruel, cruel reality and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. To belittle its necessity based on your own needs is .....well, jacked.

By strictest definition people don't "need" any thing beyond food, water and shelter in extreme temperatures. However, I'm betting you would say you have NEED of a job. Sure that can provide those things, but so do other avenues. I'm betting you would say you have NEED of a great many things that don't meet the requirements of the textbook definition of it. The key here is DEEMED NECESSITY and that's going to be different for every individual. Who am I or you or anyone else to tell someone what they do not NEED?


Agreed. Not long ago, I left someone I care about very much for her good more than for my own. I feel it's only fair for me to be in a relationship with another aspie or, as the case might be, an introvert who is really good at reading me.