DataSage’s Alpha Male Guide to Meeting Women (JULY UPDATE!!)

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WOW! I haven't had time to read all of these, but my NT point of view is there are two types of women: ones that like to be lied to (unhappy) and ones that like the truth (happy). All women, whether they are aware of it or not, have one thing in common, and that is what it takes to get them is what it takes to keep them. So don’t put out all this effort to catch a woman if you can’t continue that same effort to keep her. Be honest and if she freaks, she is unhappy. Not your problem, move on. Run.

Always give honest compliments or don’t give any at all. With all people, work, friends, etc. look them up and down and find one thing you like: shoes, a pin, a hairstyle, a color, whatever and say you like it.

Confidence is the key. Don’t be afraid of women; we don’t bite unless you ask us to. Being an NT, social graces just come naturally. When in a room full of people, just wander around, eavesdrop, and when you hear something interesting it is perfectly acceptable to add a comment to the group. If they turn to you, that is your invitation to join. If they turn back toward each other, move on. Nothing personal about you, they are just too engaged in their own little world to realize they just passed up a great opportunity to meet you. It is safest to approach girls in a group. Listen a little and add a comment and see if they engage you into their conversation.

I love this Alpha Male Guide and all men should read it. In fact, DataSage needs to expand this into 150 pages and get it published. First impression really goes a long way. Clean clothes, clean mouth, clean hands, clean hair. Second impression is crucial. Follow this guide, but tweak it to your personality. BE YOURSELF!

Listen. I know it is hard. If you missed something, just tell her you were zoning and ask her to repeat it. Stay on the topic. If she is telling you a story about a car accident, do not talk about your car collection. Ask questions. This shows interest. NEVER talk about an ex until she asks and NEVER bad mouth an ex, ever. It will make the girl think she will be the future ex you will be badmouthing.

If your date does not know anything about things you are interested in, don’t patronize her ex. “I can’t believe you never heard of/saw, etc”. Just smile and say “I’ll show you someday”. When you end up in a relationship with this person and for some reason she shares a lot of your interests but not all, give her a break. People are supposed to compliment each other and compensate for the other person’s short comings. You are supposed to work as a team but not be the exact same person.

NEVER hoot, holler, be crude, be a sloppy drunk or talk to close to her face. Let her approach your face, never get into hers. Good sign is when she leans into you. It means she likes you.

Go slow. By honest I do not mean forward. Take your time. I think with AS it just takes a little more time to process what just happened. It’s ok to go back, rethink and approach the person later. It’s ok after several dates to ask if you can kiss. No one ever really knows anyway!!

Hmm...relationships naturally lose the
edge, over time. I really doubt that anyone
could maintain the first flush of love for too
much more than a couple of years. And, that
special period where a couple is really learning
about one another requires an intensity which
probably can't be maintained for anywhere near
that long. Reality does set in, and things neglected
for love must be attended to.



Unless, of course, ANYONE would freak at
what you desire. I've found that with my
rather extreme and rarefied tastes that
'tis easier to slowly acclimate them to the
depths of my depravity, rather than dump
it all on them at once.

Ah, with so much to pick on, in only the first couple
sentences, there seems little point in reading further.

Speaking from the standpoint of someone who is a complete disaster at "first contact" with women, I don't think this is inane at all. Reviewing his pointers from time to time actually help.

Hello everyone! I've been gone for quite awhile, but I will be giving this thing an update in due time. Haven't put anything into it since the New Year, and I'd like to continue helping people and getting feedback. I really want to keep helping people with this stuff.

Cool... One question (hopefully you can cover it in your next update)...

firstly the humour bit... I have trouble judging the extent of insults as humour. I realise the most logical advice would be to just crack the jokes you like until a girl responds. And that's all well and good, but you reckon you could add an appendix (open to anyone that "gets" NT humour) with a list of appropriate and inappropriate insults for use in generating laughter?

Secondly the "act casual" part for giving off a sense of being an alpha male. Erm... I don't really relax around "the mates" (don't have that many anyhow, and even when I do I am not all that casual, and not all that relaxed. I don't know if I seem that way, but I definatelly don't feel that way.) Do you have any more specific guidlines for this area?

Thanks, theoretically I reckon the guide is pretty good. Just need to figure out these areas and I might be able to use it... thanks again DataSage.

I'm not sure if I should make a separate topic for this, but taking the advice given in this thread, is it appropriate or a good idea to try and talk to girls while I'm at the gym? Or would that be too problematic, given that I would be pretty sweaty, which might not make the greatest impression or other factors?

If you can manage it,
I don't see the harm.

Unless you expect to see
the same women elsewhere,
and feel more comfortable.

I mean, what's the worst that's
going to happen? She says, "Eww,
you stink?"

Thanks, I'd try the bars, but I don't really know which ones are the best in my area, and at college I've found it a little more complicated.

Really? Wow. I guess I'm too passive for what
you do. I just let them come to me, and school
was the best for that.

Dancing gets them to jump up and make out,
but it's not like I'm going to stop just for them,
so bars don't do much for me.

Datasage, I think your advice is very good. The way I read it, the Alpha male is trying to control the situation, not the woman. As a woman, I can truly say that sort of confidence is what I find most impressive in a man.

Really? Wow. The women that I've been
with usually HATE being dominated in
this manner. Though, none were
NT - that I know.

No, you didn't get my meaning... the women aren't being dominated. The Alpha Male takes a leading role, but it's still up to the woman if she wants to go with him.

Still seems like the kind of games which
I haven't found too much appreciation for.

Then again, I can't really read such long
posts, devoid of whitespace, so I merely
skimmed it. Perhaps there were nuances
which I missed.

I note in particular, steering the conversation,
and trying to pry personal information out of
someone. I find this a bore, and unwarranted,
until I know the person quite well. I've had VERY
similar things expressed to me, by my lovers.

Another point - teasing. I've noted women complaining
terribly about this. Some may like it, but I suspect, if
anything, one should tone DOWN the tendency to do
so. Anything which looks like it's not necessarily in
the realm of play, runs a serious chance of putting
them off - making them feel self-consious and picked
upon. Since I've never dealt with an NT female, for
any length of time, I really can't say about them ( nor
would I WANT to be able to), but those who dealt with
being harrassed like this before, really don't feel too
comfortable with it.

Walking away: conveys disinterest. Ah, sometimes
'tis fine. But some don't need that kind of blow to
their self esteem. You have to judge by the person
you're dealing with, not some silly set of rules.

Ah Calandale, we've found a point of agreement as I don't believe you can reduce human interactions to a simple set of rules which will cover all individuals and every situation.

I'm not saying I have experience picking up women at bars, I just meant that I would prefer that to other venues. The few parties I've gone to at school I've talked to girls, but I'm often not to sure whether I'm making much of an impression on them, and I eventually just leave them alone because I'm afraid of hovering and looking creepy.

I realize what you're saying.
I'm rather in awe of the confidence
that you (and most everyone else)
has. The thought of approaching someone -
especially without a good dose of liquid
courage, is entirely alien to me.