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Have you experienced similar? (only answer if you are male)
yes 12%  12%  [ 8 ]
no 88%  88%  [ 57 ]
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06 Feb 2014, 4:31 am

Oh lol, that's ok. I figured you decided not to. I understand. Its not a big deal to me but I know it is to you so no worries.

as for surprise element, that is quite interesting. I hate surprises. Figures.



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06 Feb 2014, 4:33 am

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I will never for the life of me understand why people don't think to themselves that if they are turned on by forcing themselves on someone or by suffering of someone that obviously points out to a very messed up mentality and they should stay the heck away from other people. Before we all got civlised as f**k, we used to put down unsafe or feeble members of the tribe. We still do actually, some places still have death sentence and sometimes euthanasia is practiced legally when vegetative state is all that persists. Imagine if we had someone rounding up and putting down everyone who was into sado masochism, though, it would get rid of half the population, maybe? It always profoundly disturbs me when i see someone enjoying the suffering of others, not necessarily in a sexual context. I have experienced it by proxy and know it is like a drug addiction
the only way is to stop permanently forever and never ever let yourself slip once.

I have tried the hands tied to the bed thing couple of times as well as spanking, it made me feel abused/ like I was abusing someone which i suppose is the point but i didn't enjoy it. My partner at the time seemed scarily joyful about the prospect of me restrained and helpless. I didn't care for that at all.


Oh, well then. If you tried it once and it made you feel abused and victimized then it's obviously evil and we should all be rounded up and killed. WTF????? I personally like being thrown down on the bed and held down while a man who knows what the hell he's doing goes to town there. It's actually a kind of nice feeling, because I don't do the whole violent takedown scene with it. I like being tied up. Or held down. And I'm sure you want to say how messed up in the head I am over that, but you know what? Go ahead and say it, I don't give a good goddamn. So you just want everybody else to have boring sex lives now? Because you don't like it any other way? So tell us then Yoda, having sex how do it we do? Cause you OBVIOUSLY know all about it, and what is and isn't healthy. Come on, Dr Ruth, balls up and tell two consenting people what they can and can't do in the bedroom.

You actually just proposed killing people who like sex in a different way than you do. Read up, you'll see what you did there. Are you by any chance Southern Baptist, cause thats how a whole lot of them feel about gay people.


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06 Feb 2014, 6:40 am

MadeUnderground wrote:
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I find the whole bdsm disgusting and it was invented to appease those with violent/forced/rape fantasies in a consent way, slight spanking doesn't count.


Does simple restrain count? Like, one person being tied to the bed, or handcuffed, or ducttaped or whatever somehow restrained to the bed, or table.. or couch.. or whatever.

Does that count as BDSM?

I've always been confused where the line of some kinky play crosses over to the BDSM area...


Basically yes but only very mild at this stage, real further bdsm involves pain, real pain.



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06 Feb 2014, 7:11 am

Whatever consenting adults get up to in their sex lives is entirely up to them. It takes a considerable effort of communication, trust and vulnerability to express what you may sexually desire. If you enjoy bdsm and engage in it consentingly then have fun go wild, have a blast! It is when the element of consent is removed from the dynamic, then it is damaging and can leave life long damaging issues for the victim. There is a huge difference in talking openly with people you trust about kinks you might like to explore, and calculating the most effective way of removing any possibility of consent by planning to rape someone.


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06 Feb 2014, 7:23 am

OliveOilMom wrote:
leafplant wrote:
I will never for the life of me understand why people don't think to themselves that if they are turned on by forcing themselves on someone or by suffering of someone that obviously points out to a very messed up mentality and they should stay the heck away from other people. Before we all got civlised as f**k, we used to put down unsafe or feeble members of the tribe. We still do actually, some places still have death sentence and sometimes euthanasia is practiced legally when vegetative state is all that persists. Imagine if we had someone rounding up and putting down everyone who was into sado masochism, though, it would get rid of half the population, maybe? It always profoundly disturbs me when i see someone enjoying the suffering of others, not necessarily in a sexual context. I have experienced it by proxy and know it is like a drug addiction
the only way is to stop permanently forever and never ever let yourself slip once.

I have tried the hands tied to the bed thing couple of times as well as spanking, it made me feel abused/ like I was abusing someone which i suppose is the point but i didn't enjoy it. My partner at the time seemed scarily joyful about the prospect of me restrained and helpless. I didn't care for that at all.


Oh, well then. If you tried it once and it made you feel abused and victimized then it's obviously evil and we should all be rounded up and killed. WTF????? I personally like being thrown down on the bed and held down while a man who knows what the hell he's doing goes to town there. It's actually a kind of nice feeling, because I don't do the whole violent takedown scene with it. I like being tied up. Or held down. And I'm sure you want to say how messed up in the head I am over that, but you know what? Go ahead and say it, I don't give a good goddamn. So you just want everybody else to have boring sex lives now? Because you don't like it any other way? So tell us then Yoda, having sex how do it we do? Cause you OBVIOUSLY know all about it, and what is and isn't healthy. Come on, Dr Ruth, balls up and tell two consenting people what they can and can't do in the bedroom.

You actually just proposed killing people who like sex in a different way than you do. Read up, you'll see what you did there. Are you by any chance Southern Baptist, cause thats how a whole lot of them feel about gay people.


yeah, look at that, we have different opinions about stuff.



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06 Feb 2014, 10:34 am

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God forbid people with OCD tell their thoughts here. I've had thoughts of brutally murdering someone. I've had thoughts about rape, raping people, molesting children, and others. Yet, I find these things horrible, similarly to how the OP finds rape horrible. Now, I've never calculated the risks of doing such a crime as the OP did, true. However, I DO know of people with OCD who were terrified of killing someone. These would be people they loved. I even knew a person with OCD who had obsessive thoughts about grabbing the knife, how they could do it, if they would get caught, etc. Naturally, this person was scared of themselves. They eventually never left their room for years until they received help.

As someone with OCD, aspects of this sound very familiar too me. I would never share any of these thoughts with others unless I was truly worried I would act on them and I know I won't.



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06 Feb 2014, 10:39 am

salamandaqwerty wrote:
Whatever consenting adults get up to in their sex lives is entirely up to them. It takes a considerable effort of communication, trust and vulnerability to express what you may sexually desire. If you enjoy bdsm and engage in it consentingly then have fun go wild, have a blast! It is when the element of consent is removed from the dynamic, then it is damaging and can leave life long damaging issues for the victim. There is a huge difference in talking openly with people you trust about kinks you might like to explore, and calculating the most effective way of removing any possibility of consent by planning to rape someone.
This^^^

I get some of the appeal of BDSM but not enough to really embrace it. The occasional whips and chains are ok but I'm a gentle person by nature.



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06 Feb 2014, 3:52 pm

I'm not quite sure why you've made this thread if you don't experience the issue anymore. You say that since you've had sex, the previous urges have ceased to occur. I'm sceptical of your claim and think that you've probably made this thread because you still have those urges and want some affirmation that it is indeed, not normal. That,. or you want negative attention for thoughts you have or have had in the past. If you were a genuine person, remorseful for their thoughts, you wouldn't be posting it here without a hint of shame. I think I agree with other posters in this thread in that you need to see someone regarding this issue. Especially worrying is the fact that you imply you only didn't rape on various occasions because of the risk of being caught.



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06 Feb 2014, 4:03 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
I'm not quite sure why you've made this thread if you don't experience the issue anymore. You say that since you've had sex, the previous urges have ceased to occur. I'm sceptical of your claim and think that you've probably made this thread because you still have those urges and want some affirmation that it is indeed, not normal. That,. or you want negative attention for thoughts you have or have had in the past. If you were a genuine person, remorseful for their thoughts, you wouldn't be posting it here without a hint of shame. I think I agree with other posters in this thread in that you need to see someone regarding this issue. Especially worrying is the fact that you imply you only didn't rape on various occasions because of the risk of being caught.


Good points.

It happens that people post answers only by reading the first post by the OP.
You don't need to read every post but check the pages and see if the OP has more posts that may change the flow of conversation and insight to the issue at hand.

Read his post on page 6 as well.


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06 Feb 2014, 4:23 pm

God thought of torturing all humans in cosmically unimaginably cruel ways in a ring of eternal death and fire, including wiping us from ever existing, for all eternity. It doesn't mean he did, he forgives evil people every day. Having thoughts of doing something very wrong is something we all do sooner or later, everyone. Posting this on a forum without seeming regretful enough to some 'Judge Dredd of the Internet' is something no one should have to give a rat's behind about, or put up with for that matter. You people are alarmed, that's normal, WTH do you think he posted here? Sometimes people actually think admitting things is the only way to relieve guilt, lighten the f**k up. Saying you wanted to do wrong and inexcusable things in the past, never did them, and changed from your ways shouldn't be a reason for people to tell you to get help like you are an untouchable atrocity of biology. Holy crap....


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06 Feb 2014, 4:41 pm

In light of your post on page 6, you don't need help Nordmann, you need to feel guilty, and be yelled at by angry fathers till you cry.
People who don't want or ask for help and say bs like 'they are curious' need to be scared straight, or get no such forgiveness.
There isn't a seat in a shrink's office for people who refuse to be helped. Shrinks don't need to put up with that load of garbage.
If you use raping drunk and helpless women being commonplace as an excuse not to feel guilty, you don't care, you don't.
How can you even say that? And feeling guilty doesn't make you weak at all, it shows remorse and at least a higher respect for women than the kind of man you mentioned. Nor is the rape of a man any less of an atrocity. Don't get help, actually know what the heck your saying before acting like it is ok.


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06 Feb 2014, 5:22 pm

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In light of your post on page 6, you don't need help Nordmann, you need to feel guilty, and be yelled at by angry fathers till you cry.
People who don't want or ask for help and say bs like 'they are curious' need to be scared straight, or get no such forgiveness.
There isn't a seat in a shrink's office for people who refuse to be helped. Shrinks don't need to put up with that load of garbage.
If you use raping drunk and helpless women being commonplace as an excuse not to feel guilty, you don't care, you don't.
How can you even say that? And feeling guilty doesn't make you weak at all, it shows remorse and at least a higher respect for women than the kind of man you mentioned. Nor is the rape of a man any less of an atrocity. Don't get help, actually know what the heck your saying before acting like it is ok.


He did mention he's stupid.

I thought he was a genuine dude and viewed him as brave for posting before I saw his post on page 6.

It's very sad, he seems very apathetic and saying "I know I'm stupid" witch in Scandinavia has the meaning of "I don't care what you say, but I know there is something wrong with me/or that I have done something wrong. But I just want to continue the discussion/move forward/whatever...."

In Swedish it's "Jag vet jag är dum..." = "I know I'm in the wrong but can we please just move on and concentrate on what we're doing because I don't want to talk about me."
(He's Norwegian by the way.)


It's a way of trying to re-direct the attention back to the topic but I think he forgot what place he came to. Now we're digging into his "soul" and I thing he's losing interest because it's not what he wants to talk about.

He wants to talk about his Rape-Mode, but we're talking about him. And I'm guessing he doesn't like that kind of attention.



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06 Feb 2014, 6:14 pm

SoulcakeDuck wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
In light of your post on page 6, you don't need help Nordmann, you need to feel guilty, and be yelled at by angry fathers till you cry.
People who don't want or ask for help and say bs like 'they are curious' need to be scared straight, or get no such forgiveness.
There isn't a seat in a shrink's office for people who refuse to be helped. Shrinks don't need to put up with that load of garbage.
If you use raping drunk and helpless women being commonplace as an excuse not to feel guilty, you don't care, you don't.
How can you even say that? And feeling guilty doesn't make you weak at all, it shows remorse and at least a higher respect for women than the kind of man you mentioned. Nor is the rape of a man any less of an atrocity. Don't get help, actually know what the heck your saying before acting like it is ok.


He did mention he's stupid.

I thought he was a genuine dude and viewed him as brave for posting before I saw his post on page 6.

It's very sad, he seems very apathetic and saying "I know I'm stupid" witch in Scandinavia has the meaning of "I don't care what you say, but I know there is something wrong with me/or that I have done something wrong. But I just want to continue the discussion/move forward/whatever...."

In Swedish it's "Jag vet jag är dum..." = "I know I'm in the wrong but can we please just move on and concentrate on what we're doing because I don't want to talk about me."
(He's Norwegian by the way.)


It's a way of trying to re-direct the attention back to the topic but I think he forgot what place he came to. Now we're digging into his "soul" and I thing he's losing interest because it's not what he wants to talk about.

He wants to talk about his Rape-Mode, but we're talking about him. And I'm guessing he doesn't like that kind of attention.



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I like your signature Apple. Very bulls eye.
People who are into anime are often cool as sh** and smart.




[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYaXwv1peeQ[/youtube]


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06 Feb 2014, 7:08 pm

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safeword
A word serving as a prearranged and unambiguous signal to end an activity, such as between a dominant and submissive sexual couple


8O That's new to me, like the dominant doesn't know when to stop by his/her own?

Her: Fried ch.... fried chic...

Him suffocating her: I can't hear you b***h! Speak up!! MUhahaha!

Her: Frie.... (dies)


Because the sub might want to stop LONG before they're close to dying from it, and this is a way to say 'no' beyond just saying 'no'...(so that saying things like no, please stop, you're hurting me, etc can all be part of the play)
Besides, if the safeword is unable to be uttered, it's not safe BDSM.


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06 Feb 2014, 7:28 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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A word serving as a prearranged and unambiguous signal to end an activity, such as between a dominant and submissive sexual couple


8O That's new to me, like the dominant doesn't know when to stop by his/her own?

Her: Fried ch.... fried chic...

Him suffocating her: I can't hear you b***h! Speak up!! MUhahaha!

Her: Frie.... (dies)


Even though I feel bad for laughing at these dark humor jokes, I enjoy them.

Whyyy booo, whyyy???


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06 Feb 2014, 7:37 pm

appletheclown wrote:
SoulcakeDuck wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
In light of your post on page 6, you don't need help Nordmann, you need to feel guilty, and be yelled at by angry fathers till you cry.
People who don't want or ask for help and say bs like 'they are curious' need to be scared straight, or get no such forgiveness.
There isn't a seat in a shrink's office for people who refuse to be helped. Shrinks don't need to put up with that load of garbage.
If you use raping drunk and helpless women being commonplace as an excuse not to feel guilty, you don't care, you don't.
How can you even say that? And feeling guilty doesn't make you weak at all, it shows remorse and at least a higher respect for women than the kind of man you mentioned. Nor is the rape of a man any less of an atrocity. Don't get help, actually know what the heck your saying before acting like it is ok.


He did mention he's stupid.

I thought he was a genuine dude and viewed him as brave for posting before I saw his post on page 6.

It's very sad, he seems very apathetic and saying "I know I'm stupid" witch in Scandinavia has the meaning of "I don't care what you say, but I know there is something wrong with me/or that I have done something wrong. But I just want to continue the discussion/move forward/whatever...."

In Swedish it's "Jag vet jag är dum..." = "I know I'm in the wrong but can we please just move on and concentrate on what we're doing because I don't want to talk about me."
(He's Norwegian by the way.)


It's a way of trying to re-direct the attention back to the topic but I think he forgot what place he came to. Now we're digging into his "soul" and I thing he's losing interest because it's not what he wants to talk about.

He wants to talk about his Rape-Mode, but we're talking about him. And I'm guessing he doesn't like that kind of attention.



**edit**

I like your signature Apple. Very bulls eye.
People who are into anime are often cool as sh** and smart.




[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYaXwv1peeQ[/youtube]


I have seen many Asian movies and seen Zatoichi before but the 2003 remake with Kitano. Why I dodged the original Zatoichi series I don't know, I guess I was watching Kurosawas stuff more and other oldies. But never Zatoichi. Plus, I for some reason started watching lots of Asian gore and anime of course.

But I watched 1 minute of the clip and I will not watch more, because I'm DL it now (Zatoichi Challenged).

Thanks, I bet the movie will transcend awesomeness.

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