Girls, how strict are you when it comes to looks?

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01 Apr 2014, 7:11 pm

And to be fair, the neighbor is not someone I would be interested in a serious relationship with.


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02 Apr 2014, 3:29 am

I actually did kind of a social experiment on Hot or Not (before you laugh, just read). This case only works online, it's obviously a bit more challenging to see if this would work in real life, anyways:

I put my pics up and had girls rate them first, my rating was a 6.1. Decent.

Just out of curiosity, I used the same pics, but I let guys rate me (I'm assuming a majority are gay, but I don't know). I was rated a full point higher, a 7.1 just with (gay?) guys rating me. The guy sample was a lot bigger, about 300 guys have rated me so far compared to about 80 girls.

As far as my case goes (and important note: online!), the guys were a lot less picky imo about ratings. Either that or guys like my pics more, idk, that really surprised me when I saw my rating jump by a half point in a day. (no, i'm straight btw.)

Take from it what you will.



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02 Apr 2014, 5:30 am

Gay guys on dating sites aren't as picky as women. Men on dating sites are usually pummelled with messages from them.



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02 Apr 2014, 6:20 am

I'm male, but I see I'm not the first to respond.

I remember back in the early nineties, when those fun hormones really started kicking in: Pamela Anderson. It was universally agreed she was 'whooooaaaarr'. I'll grant some of this may have been responding to peer pressure, but all the same she was meant to be - and usually taken as - 'whoooaaaarrr'. Didn't do a damn thing for me. And this is a time when a well-turned door handle could have got me going. This was the first hint that my taste, not just physically but in how attraction works for me, may not be in line with others. I thought I was probably gay. That I didn't find men attractive didn't stop me mulling that one over for quite a while.

In a way that might be ASD related - systematising and compartmentalising and analysing - or might just be plain weird-verging-on-creepy*, I did my own experiment a few years back. Went through lots of pictures of women online (photos, and paintings of many eras), and tried to (subtly!) notice the women I saw when out and about, to try and catch and examine my immediate responses, and the processes behind them. I can think someone is pretty or beautiful or good looking (all different things), and not find them at all attractive. And I definitely have physical types, women who, all else being equal, I just find really nice to look at**. But what I found was, outside of a strong hint of an appealing personality, I couldn't find them attractive.

When I reflect on the women I've actually been attracted to, it's personality that is overwhelming. Someone becomes attractive because of their personality. Looks do matter to me, sure, but not nearly as much as might be supposed - more in the absence of offputting traits than the presence of particular appealing measurements or colours, etc. I'd take a non-type who is perceptive, thoughtful, kind, funny, than a physical type who is dull-eyed, vacuous, avaricious any day.

*It could be both.

**Not unlike being glad a particular actor of either gender is in a film - that quality of watchability.


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02 Apr 2014, 8:16 am

warsend wrote:
I actually did kind of a social experiment on Hot or Not (before you laugh, just read). This case only works online, it's obviously a bit more challenging to see if this would work in real life, anyways:

I put my pics up and had girls rate them first, my rating was a 6.1. Decent.

Just out of curiosity, I used the same pics, but I let guys rate me (I'm assuming a majority are gay, but I don't know). I was rated a full point higher, a 7.1 just with (gay?) guys rating me. The guy sample was a lot bigger, about 300 guys have rated me so far compared to about 80 girls.

As far as my case goes (and important note: online!), the guys were a lot less picky imo about ratings. Either that or guys like my pics more, idk, that really surprised me when I saw my rating jump by a half point in a day. (no, i'm straight btw.)

Take from it what you will.


OKCupid did a study that showed that men were more generous in their ratings of a woman's looks than women were in rating men's looks. BUT....the women were way more generous as far as who they would actually correspond with than the men were. Here, I'll post it again.

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your- ... ne-dating/



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02 Apr 2014, 8:32 am

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warsend wrote:
I actually did kind of a social experiment on Hot or Not (before you laugh, just read). This case only works online, it's obviously a bit more challenging to see if this would work in real life, anyways:

I put my pics up and had girls rate them first, my rating was a 6.1. Decent.

Just out of curiosity, I used the same pics, but I let guys rate me (I'm assuming a majority are gay, but I don't know). I was rated a full point higher, a 7.1 just with (gay?) guys rating me. The guy sample was a lot bigger, about 300 guys have rated me so far compared to about 80 girls.

As far as my case goes (and important note: online!), the guys were a lot less picky imo about ratings. Either that or guys like my pics more, idk, that really surprised me when I saw my rating jump by a half point in a day. (no, i'm straight btw.)

Take from it what you will.


OKCupid did a study that showed that men were more generous in their ratings of a woman's looks than women were in rating men's looks. BUT....the women were way more generous as far as who they would actually correspond with than the men were. Here, I'll post it again.

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your- ... ne-dating/


Urm no.... you're making another attempt to make women appear less shallow.

"Message them anyway" (most probably replying) doesn't mean she is gonna date whom she rated less than average nor she is gonna "correspond" with much; she would only try to date the ones who look attractive to her; the 20%.


Women are as strict as men when it comes looks, and if they care more about status than men that doesn't mean they care about looks less than men.



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02 Apr 2014, 8:58 am

I never said women were less shallow. On average, they just care more about other things than looks. What other explanation is there for all the couples you see that consist of a hot young thing and a fat old man with money? Women are, shall we say, more flexible when it comes to looks than men are, as a rule.

Unless you specifically want to date NTs exclusively, I don't think it matters what "average" people do. Aspies are off the curve in most other respects, and I've seen a lot written here to support the notion that they (both male and female) are less shallow in general than NTs are.



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02 Apr 2014, 11:54 am

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I never said women were less shallow. On average, they just care more about other things than looks. What other explanation is there for all the couples you see that consist of a hot young thing and a fat old man with money?


Again, caring for money doesn't mean they don't care for looks; if this same fat old man wasn't rich this hot young lady wouldn't have dated him.

And cases of a hot young men dating old rich cougars exist too.


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Women are, shall we say, more flexible when it comes to looks than men are, as a rule.


Only if the man is really rich then they become super flexible regarding his looks and many others thing like his religion.

I knew a Christian beautiful girl who said before she who would never date a Muslim, nor her parents would accept a local Muslim but she ended up marrying as a second wife to a Saudi Petro-owner Prince with her parents' approval; you know what's KSA is like for women right? When there's money, things magically become acceptable. And oh, this girl fell for a Muslim local before that but her parents refused him because of religion lol (he was fresh graduate).


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Unless you specifically want to date NTs exclusively, I don't think it matters what "average" people do. Aspies are off the curve in most other respects, and I've seen a lot written here to support the notion that they (both male and female) are less shallow in general than NTs are.


It's very easy to sound ideal behind the screen, no, aspies are not less shallow in general than NTs.



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02 Apr 2014, 12:44 pm

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I do think men are in general more visually oriented than women, so as a rule women are not going to care as much about looks as men do. Doesn't mean they're unimportant, but it's certainly less important.


My ex used to say that all the time.
when I moved out posters on enrique igelisas and alcide from true blood went up on her fridge....

I guess the more attractive you are the more you care about looks and muscles.

I find a lot of women that most other people would find average really attractive, I'm not a big fan of women who wear loads of makeup either as most don't need to and it just spoils how they look.



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02 Apr 2014, 2:29 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Eureka13 wrote:
I never said women were less shallow. On average, they just care more about other things than looks. What other explanation is there for all the couples you see that consist of a hot young thing and a fat old man with money?


Again, caring for money doesn't mean they don't care for looks; if this same fat old man wasn't rich this hot young lady wouldn't have dated him.

And cases of a hot young men dating old rich cougars exist too.


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Women are, shall we say, more flexible when it comes to looks than men are, as a rule.


Only if the man is really rich then they become super flexible regarding his looks and many others thing like his religion.

I knew a Christian beautiful girl who said before she who would never date a Muslim, nor her parents would accept a local Muslim but she ended up marrying as a second wife to a Saudi Petro-owner Prince with her parents' approval; you know what's KSA is like for women right? When there's money, things magically become acceptable. And oh, this girl fell for a Muslim local before that but her parents refused him because of religion lol (he was fresh graduate).


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Unless you specifically want to date NTs exclusively, I don't think it matters what "average" people do. Aspies are off the curve in most other respects, and I've seen a lot written here to support the notion that they (both male and female) are less shallow in general than NTs are.


It's very easy to sound ideal behind the screen, no, aspies are not less shallow in general than NTs.


Hey, just because you may be shallow is no reason to project that on everyone else. :P

Maybe you're just too young to appreciate yet that good looks eventually fade, but a bad personality lasts forever. :lol:



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02 Apr 2014, 2:40 pm

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Eureka13 wrote:
I never said women were less shallow. On average, they just care more about other things than looks. What other explanation is there for all the couples you see that consist of a hot young thing and a fat old man with money?


Again, caring for money doesn't mean they don't care for looks; if this same fat old man wasn't rich this hot young lady wouldn't have dated him.

And cases of a hot young men dating old rich cougars exist too.


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Women are, shall we say, more flexible when it comes to looks than men are, as a rule.


Only if the man is really rich then they become super flexible regarding his looks and many others thing like his religion.

I knew a Christian beautiful girl who said before she who would never date a Muslim, nor her parents would accept a local Muslim but she ended up marrying as a second wife to a Saudi Petro-owner Prince with her parents' approval; you know what's KSA is like for women right? When there's money, things magically become acceptable. And oh, this girl fell for a Muslim local before that but her parents refused him because of religion lol (he was fresh graduate).


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Unless you specifically want to date NTs exclusively, I don't think it matters what "average" people do. Aspies are off the curve in most other respects, and I've seen a lot written here to support the notion that they (both male and female) are less shallow in general than NTs are.


It's very easy to sound ideal behind the screen, no, aspies are not less shallow in general than NTs.


Hey, just because you may be shallow is no reason to project that on everyone else. :P

Maybe you're just too young to appreciate yet that good looks eventually fade, but a bad personality lasts forever. :lol:


Oh, Capitaine obvious, from where you got this obvious wisdom, Paulo Coelho?

Believe me, I've been ages here on WP and I tell you, members aren't less likely to be shallow and materialistc than the rest of population; and everyone is ideal on the internet, not just on wp.



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02 Apr 2014, 4:41 pm

^^ So you're calling us all liars, eh? :?



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03 Apr 2014, 2:53 am

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^^ So you're calling us all liars, eh? :?



No, you just haven't been here long enough.



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Hey, just because you may be shallow is no reason to project that on everyone else. :P

Maybe you're just too young to appreciate yet that good looks eventually fade, but a bad personality lasts forever. :lol:

haha yea I'm probably the least shallow person I know ! I can see beauty in most people.

I've got a thing for woman who are a little on the chubby side though so maybe I'm just weird.
I've always found most skinny women unattractive, It's not a very healthy look to me

BTW No I am not fat.
6"3 @ 12st 12lbs (81kg)
I wear 36 inch waist jeans but could fit in a 34 pretty easily apart from the thighs/crotch is tight (must be from cycling and having a large penis)



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03 Apr 2014, 6:26 am

^ You couldn't resist mentioning your penis.



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03 Apr 2014, 6:56 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Oh, Capitaine obvious, from where you got this obvious wisdom, Paulo Coelho?


Hahahaha You crack me up.