"I like a woman who takes care of herself"

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27 Mar 2014, 9:46 pm

"Having a laugh" on my part doesn't mean they're in any way negatively affected. I didn't say I was going to insult them for their answer. I didn't say I was going to contradict them. Will they even know i'm laughing about it? No. It's not the same as some guy sending me random verbal abuse for my opinion.



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27 Mar 2014, 11:45 pm

Ah the literal meaning vs. figurative meaning. We aspies hate it when others use figures of speech that many others use, especially when they have more than one meaning, and we have no idea what it means. Let's see if this dumb aspie (i.e. myself) can understand this situation. I think Hale_bopp just wants people to literally post exactly word for word what they are looking for in a woman, e.g. "I am looking for a woman who is healthy, not overweight, eats healthy foods, and exercises some." instead of posting the confusing, "I want a woman that takes care of herself" phrase. Just what does that latter phrase mean? As this thread pointed out, it is subjective - it depends on what people's perspectives are and opinions of what they want in a mate. Some think having big boobs and being thin is taking care of themselves; others think that showering every day. Am I right, Hale_bopp? Or anyone else?

I am not trying to be mean or be a troll here; I honestly am just trying to understand this thread. If you want my opinion of what I think "taking care of herself" means, you can ask me via pm; however, I am trying to understand this idea, as I too take things literally.



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28 Mar 2014, 8:00 am

Dhp wrote:
Ah the literal meaning vs. figurative meaning. We aspies hate it when others use figures of speech that many others use, especially when they have more than one meaning, and we have no idea what it means. Let's see if this dumb aspie (i.e. myself) can understand this situation. I think Hale_bopp just wants people to literally post exactly word for word what they are looking for in a woman, e.g. "I am looking for a woman who is healthy, not overweight, eats healthy foods, and exercises some." instead of posting the confusing, "I want a woman that takes care of herself" phrase. Just what does that latter phrase mean? As this thread pointed out, it is subjective - it depends on what people's perspectives are and opinions of what they want in a mate. Some think having big boobs and being thin is taking care of themselves; others think that showering every day. Am I right, Hale_bopp? Or anyone else?

I am not trying to be mean or be a troll here; I honestly am just trying to understand this thread. If you want my opinion of what I think "taking care of herself" means, you can ask me via pm; however, I am trying to understand this idea, as I too take things literally.


Yup. It's an ambiguous statement, and can mean many different things. The way in which it is most commonly used on dating site profiles by men (and what hale_bopp most likely was understandly offended by) is to mean "no fat chicks."

In and of itself, the phrase is inoffensive. Extensive repetition creates annoyance, however, especially when most of the people using the phrase are obviously NOT in the group who "take care of themselves."



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28 Mar 2014, 8:49 am

But dhp, I may understand why it can mean "no fat girls" because weight is theoretically controlled by a healthy diet and healthy lifestyle(in most cases) so this can be understood as part of good self-caring. Same for shaving beard/body hair is considered by a lot as self caring (by a lot of men AND women; so feminists don't kill me here).

But why, in any sense, would it mean big boobs or tall height? lol



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28 Mar 2014, 9:25 am

I guess I didn't take care of myself and that's why I'm short.Thats a confusing statement because my boobs grew without any special effort on my part.


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28 Mar 2014, 9:26 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Say what you actually mean - "I like a woman to make an effort to not look repulsive to me".

Opinions?

This is a major offender on most dating sites.


Is it offensive because you basically take it as diss on women in general? (i.e. they're implying that many women don't take care of themselves as well as they should)

EDIT: That statement could also imply that an attractive woman's photos are somewhat deceptive, and her hygiene isn't nearly as good as they try to lead you to believe. I see how that would get around an attractive woman's ego. And then she'd message the guy to "call him out on it". :roll:



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28 Mar 2014, 10:37 am

In a nutshell, it *can* be an underhanded way of saying "women are put on this planet to be visually pleasing, and if you don't make every effort by every means available to you to be visually pleasing to ME, then don't waste my time."

That is where the offense lies. I doubt that many ASD men would be putting that in their profiles, or, if they did, they *would* simply mean "I would like you to be someone who pays attention to their health."

It's more likely the NT men who have the implied (possibly offensive) meaning in this statement. Especially when they are obviously not the least bit concerned about their own health.



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28 Mar 2014, 1:04 pm

lol, I just remembered something else. There was a thread on here not too long ago, which was started by The Face of Boo I think. It was about how it's considered taboo by society for a man to say/imply that a woman is a "loser"(no matter how big a loser she is).

That statement is obviously implying that the woman reading could possibly be a "loser" in some form or another.(which is taboo to point out)