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23 Oct 2017, 1:34 pm

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Honestly looking at the problem from a outside perspective it is our social networks that are most important for relationships. As in people like us need friends.


Yes I agree with this more than anything - without good friends we are alone.

Our social networks not only help us to be and stay well, we also learn from each other.

We need to feel we are accepted and belong, otherwise we can fail to thrive.



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23 Oct 2017, 3:30 pm

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What I gather from OP's picture is that he thinks relationships in the real world work like they do in anime.



I think Disney has a more realistic view on relationship dynamics (Prince as status + Princess/PoorGirl as beauty) than anime, ironically.


I'll tell you Bambi has the most realistic view, because Bambi had to grow up to get his girlfriend. Bambi didn't get his girlfriend overnight either.


But it only took them about 30 seconds from the time they met to the time they fell in love. Bambi didn't really have to do any work or self-improvement. All he had to do was wait until he got bigger.


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23 Oct 2017, 5:24 pm

Temeraire wrote:
Ragnahawk wrote:
Honestly looking at the problem from a outside perspective it is our social networks that are most important for relationships. As in people like us need friends.


Yes I agree with this more than anything - without good friends we are alone.

Our social networks not only help us to be and stay well, we also learn from each other.

We need to feel we are accepted and belong, otherwise we can fail to thrive.


That's something others keep failing to get. I don't have a good sized friendship network. In fact, it shrinks every year and I haven't been able to make new friendships. I tried when I went to college this year but most of the people just stared at their cellphones and put up barriers. I feels like no one wants to make new friends and I've missed out completely now.



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23 Oct 2017, 5:55 pm

Your limiting yourself to social standards. It is almost mandated that all relationships be physical. All you have to do is be a friend of me. Then another, and another.


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23 Oct 2017, 5:59 pm

So...tell me people, how are you helping him to change anything?



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23 Oct 2017, 6:20 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
So...tell me people, how are you helping him to change anything?

Moral support.
Options.
Volunteering to be a friend.
Stopping angry mobs from trampling the poor guy by lightening the mood with stupid mindless humor.
Providing outside view.
Presenting my flaws publicly to show he's not the only one
Being determined to try.


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23 Oct 2017, 7:27 pm

Marknis wrote:
Temeraire wrote:
Ragnahawk wrote:
Honestly looking at the problem from a outside perspective it is our social networks that are most important for relationships. As in people like us need friends.


Yes I agree with this more than anything - without good friends we are alone.

Our social networks not only help us to be and stay well, we also learn from each other.

We need to feel we are accepted and belong, otherwise we can fail to thrive.


That's something others keep failing to get. I don't have a good sized friendship network. In fact, it shrinks every year and I haven't been able to make new friendships. I tried when I went to college this year but most of the people just stared at their cellphones and put up barriers. I feels like no one wants to make new friends and I've missed out completely now.


Hello, just new here and read this thread. I understand how you feel since 20 years ago I experienced the same thing. It is hard to build friendship with people who have already set barriers. It happened to me too at that time. Luckily I wasn't the only one with the problem. In the end I found a few who experienced the same, knew each others for a while through college tasks, then gradually we became friends. It needed time, a lot of time.

About girlfriend, well... I had first boyfriend 9 years after I went to college. So I know how you feel. Loneliness is difficult, seeing all around you with their couples just make it worse, right? Yet, you should be patient.

I don't know you at all, so I don't know spesifically your problem of not having girlfriend. If you want to share more, probably I can understand you better. In page one, you mention about not agressive and don't want to do "God's work". Well... to introduce yourself to a woman and to know each other, it is your part, not God. We can ask for guidance, direction, etc to God, but we should do our part too.

In case you want to share more, I am all ears (or in this case: eyes) :D



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23 Oct 2017, 7:43 pm

Marknis wrote:
Temeraire wrote:
Ragnahawk wrote:
Honestly looking at the problem from a outside perspective it is our social networks that are most important for relationships. As in people like us need friends.


Yes I agree with this more than anything - without good friends we are alone.

Our social networks not only help us to be and stay well, we also learn from each other.

We need to feel we are accepted and belong, otherwise we can fail to thrive.


That's something others keep failing to get. I don't have a good sized friendship network. In fact, it shrinks every year and I haven't been able to make new friendships. I tried when I went to college this year but most of the people just stared at their cellphones and put up barriers. I feels like no one wants to make new friends and I've missed out completely now.


In that case you will need to be the initiator of social interactions. Perhaps some of the other college students feel the same way about people being on their phones all the time. Rather than looking at your phone because no one is talking to you, talk to someone and they may put down their phone and be glad for the company.

Remember, charismatic people start conversations rather than waiting for someone to start a conversation with them.


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23 Oct 2017, 7:53 pm

Talk to strangers.
I do this.
Haven't been murdered yet.


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23 Oct 2017, 8:41 pm

One day I may even practice what I preach.


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23 Oct 2017, 10:33 pm

Raleigh wrote:
Talk to strangers.
I do this.
Haven't been murdered yet.

Stranger danger!



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24 Oct 2017, 1:28 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
ZachGoodwin wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
What I gather from OP's picture is that he thinks relationships in the real world work like they do in anime.



I think Disney has a more realistic view on relationship dynamics (Prince as status + Princess/PoorGirl as beauty) than anime, ironically.


I'll tell you Bambi has the most realistic view, because Bambi had to grow up to get his girlfriend. Bambi didn't get his girlfriend overnight either.


But it only took them about 30 seconds from the time they met to the time they fell in love. Bambi didn't really have to do any work or self-improvement. All he had to do was wait until he got bigger.



He had to fight off another stag to win the girl.



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24 Oct 2017, 1:33 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
ZachGoodwin wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
What I gather from OP's picture is that he thinks relationships in the real world work like they do in anime.



I think Disney has a more realistic view on relationship dynamics (Prince as status + Princess/PoorGirl as beauty) than anime, ironically.


I'll tell you Bambi has the most realistic view, because Bambi had to grow up to get his girlfriend. Bambi didn't get his girlfriend overnight either.


But it only took them about 30 seconds from the time they met to the time they fell in love. Bambi didn't really have to do any work or self-improvement. All he had to do was wait until he got bigger.



He had to fight off another stag to win the girl.


Aw yeah. Forgive me it's been a really long time since I saw that movie.


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24 Oct 2017, 1:34 am

SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
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Marknis, let's go back to the basics, and post the below for a honest assessment:

- Post a real photo of you
- Tell us what is your job, and how much is your income.
- Do you have a car? Do you drive?
- How many friends do you have? How often do you socialize on weekends?

If you want to remain completely anonymous in everything, then we can't help you.


If he wants real help he should post that I agree.


*Shrug* Yeah, he cannot be helped otherwise. General cliché advice don't work without knowing one's exact situation.



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24 Oct 2017, 2:40 am

ms.utopia wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Temeraire wrote:
Ragnahawk wrote:
Honestly looking at the problem from a outside perspective it is our social networks that are most important for relationships. As in people like us need friends.


Yes I agree with this more than anything - without good friends we are alone.

Our social networks not only help us to be and stay well, we also learn from each other.

We need to feel we are accepted and belong, otherwise we can fail to thrive.


That's something others keep failing to get. I don't have a good sized friendship network. In fact, it shrinks every year and I haven't been able to make new friendships. I tried when I went to college this year but most of the people just stared at their cellphones and put up barriers. I feels like no one wants to make new friends and I've missed out completely now.


Hello, just new here and read this thread. I understand how you feel since 20 years ago I experienced the same thing. It is hard to build friendship with people who have already set barriers. It happened to me too at that time. Luckily I wasn't the only one with the problem. In the end I found a few who experienced the same, knew each others for a while through college tasks, then gradually we became friends. It needed time, a lot of time.

About girlfriend, well... I had first boyfriend 9 years after I went to college. So I know how you feel. Loneliness is difficult, seeing all around you with their couples just make it worse, right? Yet, you should be patient.

I don't know you at all, so I don't know spesifically your problem of not having girlfriend. If you want to share more, probably I can understand you better. In page one, you mention about not agressive and don't want to do "God's work". Well... to introduce yourself to a woman and to know each other, it is your part, not God. We can ask for guidance, direction, etc to God, but we should do our part too.

In case you want to share more, I am all ears (or in this case: eyes) :D


I'm just glad you could see through all the troll posts. Ironically, they claim to hate this thread but keep coming back to it. Quite hypocritical, don't you think? Oh well, it's their problem, not mine. The posters on my side matter more to me than the ones who try to cut me down.

What I meant by those things is that I was constantly pressured to be a "real man" and call myself a Christian or else I was a "wimp" and I was either "weird" or going straight to Hell if I didn't call myself a Christian. However, the people around me mixed up masculinity with machismo and they didn't even take their own faith seriously, they just hope they are on the winning side so to say.
I was constantly told what to do by others instead of being encouraged to be myself so it's really no wonder why I feel lost in life.

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
*Shrug* Yeah, he cannot be helped otherwise. General cliché advice don't work without knowing one's exact situation.


I've mentioned living in Texas and being a public library worker, haven't I?



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24 Oct 2017, 4:13 am

Marknis wrote:
Temeraire wrote:
Ragnahawk wrote:
Honestly looking at the problem from a outside perspective it is our social networks that are most important for relationships. As in people like us need friends.


Yes I agree with this more than anything - without good friends we are alone.

Our social networks not only help us to be and stay well, we also learn from each other.

We need to feel we are accepted and belong, otherwise we can fail to thrive.


That's something others keep failing to get. I don't have a good sized friendship network. In fact, it shrinks every year and I haven't been able to make new friendships. I tried when I went to college this year but most of the people just stared at their cellphones and put up barriers. I feels like no one wants to make new friends and I've missed out completely now.


Oh bloody hell, don't talk to me about bloody cell phones - they are the worst thing for cutting people off.
I am scared for this current generation and how they cannot even go to the bathroom without their phone.

You are making more friends here and I thought ms.utopia's contribution was very welcome - straight from the heart and from someone who knows your pain. I nice fresh pair of eyes amongst the smoke.

It does take time to do those things you want to and yes sometimes it can take years. (it would possibly be quicker if you didn't have to deal with people who shut you down).

I have to go off again to my part-time job (which I enjoy very much and I am proud of) so I will have to wait until tonight to catch up with you.

Take care Marknis - love conquers fear.