04 Oct 2018, 8:38 am
Luhluhluh wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
rdos wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
How ND guys would rate the points or themselves ? I wasn't rating the points dude , it was a checklist of the qualities/inequalities I have on that list i.e. I'm not well dressed.
I meant how guys rated themselves. If many ND women actually think the points about looks & dressing are important is another issue, but I suspect they are not that important.
It's bit shallow if you ask me ( but that's human nature ) - clothes don't maketh the man. If you want a smart trophy BF look elsewhere
Not really. When I talk about clothing, I'm more referring to being CLEAN and wearing clothes that are appropriate and not ripped, smell, stained, and fit reasonably well.
You have no idea how many guys meet women on a first date and show up looking like they just rolled out of bed, with stained or ripped t-shirts, unwashed messy hair, and smell like they haven't taken a shower in a week. That's not being shallow, that's basic hygiene and good manners. It shows social awareness that they realize they need to at least look halfway presentable.
That happens in comedy movies only.
[Back to reality] Most guys have the common sense to be well groomed on a first date.
When was the last time you dated men?
.
Please stop discounting the things women say. We are the ones with the actual experience dating men.
Nope, but I have seen male friends, siblings, relatives going to dates....everywhere.
The “that” in “that happens only in movie” is the “many” part of your sentence. I don’t believe it’s that common in real life out of general population.
Anyway, please stop doing drama on everything and turning everything to a gender war. You are the most drama-inducing member on WP btw.
Actually, the same can be said to you to many of your replies in the many guys’ complaining threads - they are the ones who are dating women.
I dunno where you were finding that so many slobs, my guess is in online dating.
It really doesn't matter what you believe, because it happens as evidenced by what women have experienced.
If I create drama, so be it. I call out the sexist remarks as I see them. Don't like drama? Don't be sexist and lump all women into one group and dismiss what you have "seen" because you (as a man) have not the experience of actually dating men. When you start dating men, I'll possibly be more open to your criticism. Until then, maybe you can make some more of your fake dating profiles and do another one of your "studies" to prove how awful women are.
So when women talk about dating men it’s experience and we can’t question them on it but when men talk about experience dating women it’s all’s sexist generalizations and misogyny?
If women’s experiences must be treated as valid so should mine and other men’s experiences.
Exactly, Lululuh, I don’t need to do any citation; your whole attitude ever since you joined WP was what he described; you have a very strong double standards.
The original post specifically asked women, what attracts you to a man. If you don't like the topic and the answers don't participate.
We should at least be able to question your opinions in a civil manner though which is easy when it's civil but too many people get on the defensive ( and hold grudges from Wednesday 9.05 pm 2016
) as it's a topic close to a lot of hearts here. Hasn't L&D always been notoriously a them v's us mentality though ( men v's woman ) ?
04 Oct 2018, 8:41 am
Luhluhluh wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
rdos wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
How ND guys would rate the points or themselves ? I wasn't rating the points dude , it was a checklist of the qualities/inequalities I have on that list i.e. I'm not well dressed.
I meant how guys rated themselves. If many ND women actually think the points about looks & dressing are important is another issue, but I suspect they are not that important.
It's bit shallow if you ask me ( but that's human nature ) - clothes don't maketh the man. If you want a smart trophy BF look elsewhere
Not really. When I talk about clothing, I'm more referring to being CLEAN and wearing clothes that are appropriate and not ripped, smell, stained, and fit reasonably well.
You have no idea how many guys meet women on a first date and show up looking like they just rolled out of bed, with stained or ripped t-shirts, unwashed messy hair, and smell like they haven't taken a shower in a week. That's not being shallow, that's basic hygiene and good manners. It shows social awareness that they realize they need to at least look halfway presentable.
That happens in comedy movies only.
[Back to reality] Most guys have the common sense to be well groomed on a first date.
When was the last time you dated men?
.
Please stop discounting the things women say. We are the ones with the actual experience dating men.
Nope, but I have seen male friends, siblings, relatives going to dates....everywhere.
The “that” in “that happens only in movie” is the “many” part of your sentence. I don’t believe it’s that common in real life out of general population.
Anyway, please stop doing drama on everything and turning everything to a gender war. You are the most drama-inducing member on WP btw.
Actually, the same can be said to you to many of your replies in the many guys’ complaining threads - they are the ones who are dating women.
I dunno where you were finding that so many slobs, my guess is in online dating.
It really doesn't matter what you believe, because it happens as evidenced by what women have experienced.
If I create drama, so be it. I call out the sexist remarks as I see them. Don't like drama? Don't be sexist and lump all women into one group and dismiss what you have "seen" because you (as a man) have not the experience of actually dating men. When you start dating men, I'll possibly be more open to your criticism. Until then, maybe you can make some more of your fake dating profiles and do another one of your "studies" to prove how awful women are.
So when women talk about dating men it’s experience and we can’t question them on it but when men talk about experience dating women it’s all’s sexist generalizations and misogyny?
If women’s experiences must be treated as valid so should mine and other men’s experiences.
Exactly, Lululuh, I don’t need to do any citation; your whole attitude ever since you joined WP was what he described; you have a very strong double standards.
The original post specifically asked women, what attracts you to a man. If you don't like the topic and the answers don't participate.
I really am not understanding the hostility here from the male users. It's like any suggestion that they may not be perfect is considered a personal criticism. And a few of you are just mad that you can't just say anything you want anymore, now that blatant misogyny is being called out and cracked down on. Too bad for you. Get over it and move on with your lives.
Anyway, the original poster asked for suggestions and I gave them. If you don't like them, tough. And try and stay on topic, guys.
And I am very grateful for those suggestions! Thanks
. All good advice that has helped me these last few days *gives everyone the thumbs up* .
04 Oct 2018, 8:42 am
Fnord wrote:
Fuzzyair wrote:
Hey guys! Update I just wanted to quickly update you on my current situation. So I have - another - date, fingers crossed this one actually goes well. I'm also employed now, so that can only help, right? The woman I'm dating, Charlene already has a daughter but I don't see that as a problem. We went out yesterday and she was happy to go out again tomorrow night. And today I went to see her and me and her daughter got on well too! I'm well pleased! Thanks for your help guys.
You're welcome! Best wishes for a wonderful date! I hope the two of you develop a good relationship!
sly279 wrote:
Good luck. How are you getting dates so quick?
He followed the advice that we've been giving him, of course (the clue is the final sentence of his post).Exactly
. I followed the advice you guys gave me 
.
04 Oct 2018, 8:44 am
Fuzzyair wrote:
And I am very grateful for those suggestions! Thanks
. All good advice that has helped me these last few days *gives everyone the thumbs up* .Yay!
04 Oct 2018, 8:44 am
Fuzzyair wrote:
... I am very grateful for those suggestions! Thanks . All good advice that has helped me these last few days *gives everyone the thumbs up* .
You are very welcome! . All good advice that has helped me these last few days *gives everyone the thumbs up* .AFAIK, you are the first person from this website to actually apply the advice we've given. Everyone else seems too busy with making excuses, criticizing the advisors, and debating the meaning of each word to actually do what we advise them to do.
Again, I hope everything works out well for you!
04 Oct 2018, 11:24 am
Luhluhluh wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
rdos wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
How ND guys would rate the points or themselves ? I wasn't rating the points dude , it was a checklist of the qualities/inequalities I have on that list i.e. I'm not well dressed.
I meant how guys rated themselves. If many ND women actually think the points about looks & dressing are important is another issue, but I suspect they are not that important.
It's bit shallow if you ask me ( but that's human nature ) - clothes don't maketh the man. If you want a smart trophy BF look elsewhere
Not really. When I talk about clothing, I'm more referring to being CLEAN and wearing clothes that are appropriate and not ripped, smell, stained, and fit reasonably well.
You have no idea how many guys meet women on a first date and show up looking like they just rolled out of bed, with stained or ripped t-shirts, unwashed messy hair, and smell like they haven't taken a shower in a week. That's not being shallow, that's basic hygiene and good manners. It shows social awareness that they realize they need to at least look halfway presentable.
That happens in comedy movies only.
[Back to reality] Most guys have the common sense to be well groomed on a first date.
When was the last time you dated men?
.
Please stop discounting the things women say. We are the ones with the actual experience dating men.
Nope, but I have seen male friends, siblings, relatives going to dates....everywhere.
The “that” in “that happens only in movie” is the “many” part of your sentence. I don’t believe it’s that common in real life out of general population.
Anyway, please stop doing drama on everything and turning everything to a gender war. You are the most drama-inducing member on WP btw.
Actually, the same can be said to you to many of your replies in the many guys’ complaining threads - they are the ones who are dating women.
I dunno where you were finding that so many slobs, my guess is in online dating.
It really doesn't matter what you believe, because it happens as evidenced by what women have experienced.
If I create drama, so be it. I call out the sexist remarks as I see them. Don't like drama? Don't be sexist and lump all women into one group and dismiss what you have "seen" because you (as a man) have not the experience of actually dating men. When you start dating men, I'll possibly be more open to your criticism. Until then, maybe you can make some more of your fake dating profiles and do another one of your "studies" to prove how awful women are.
So when women talk about dating men it’s experience and we can’t question them on it but when men talk about experience dating women it’s all’s sexist generalizations and misogyny?
If women’s experiences must be treated as valid so should mine and other men’s experiences.
Exactly, Lululuh, I don’t need to do any citation; your whole attitude ever since you joined WP was what he described; you have a very strong double standards.
The original post specifically asked women, what attracts you to a man. If you don't like the topic and the answers don't participate.
I really am not understanding the hostility here from the male users. It's like any suggestion that they may not be perfect is considered a personal criticism. And a few of you are just mad that you can't just say anything you want anymore, now that blatant misogyny is being called out and cracked down on. Too bad for you. Get over it and move on with your lives.
Anyway, the original poster asked for suggestions and I gave them. If you don't like them, tough. And try and stay on topic, guys.
Saying most men show up poorly dressed to dates is misandry by your definition.
I think people should be able to share their experiences from dating or trying to get dates without being accused of misogyny or misandry
04 Oct 2018, 11:26 am
Fuzzyair wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Fuzzyair wrote:
Hey guys! Update I just wanted to quickly update you on my current situation. So I have - another - date, fingers crossed this one actually goes well. I'm also employed now, so that can only help, right? The woman I'm dating, Charlene already has a daughter but I don't see that as a problem. We went out yesterday and she was happy to go out again tomorrow night. And today I went to see her and me and her daughter got on well too! I'm well pleased! Thanks for your help guys.
You're welcome! Best wishes for a wonderful date! I hope the two of you develop a good relationship! sly279 wrote:
Good luck. How are you getting dates so quick?
He followed the advice that we've been giving him, of course (the clue is the final sentence of his post).Exactly
. I followed the advice you guys gave me .What advice? The improve yourself despite you can’t advice?
Where are you meeting them?
04 Oct 2018, 11:35 am
04 Oct 2018, 11:49 am
Fnord wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Fuzzyair wrote:
... I followed the advice you guys gave me.
What advice? The improve yourself despite you can’t advice?^ This.
I doubted it would work out, I'm scared everytime that I'll screw up but you know what? I'm tired of letting myself down and as this thread proves, listening to others advice does actually help
. I know I am a better person because of this.
04 Oct 2018, 11:52 am
04 Oct 2018, 12:24 pm
04 Oct 2018, 12:26 pm
Fuzzyair wrote:
Fnord wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Fuzzyair wrote:
... I followed the advice you guys gave me.
What advice? The improve yourself despite you can’t advice?^ This.
I doubted it would work out, I'm scared everytime that I'll screw up but you know what? I'm tired of letting myself down and as this thread proves, listening to others advice does actually help
. I know I am a better person because of this.I don’t get why you won’t anws my questions but whatever I’m going assume it’s kist luck that and your probably better looking and less disabled.
I don’t fail cause of lack of trying. So I’m not Afraid to try I message lots of women. Society lets me down.
04 Oct 2018, 12:46 pm
04 Oct 2018, 12:57 pm
sly279 wrote:
Fuzzyair wrote:
Fnord wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Fuzzyair wrote:
... I followed the advice you guys gave me.
What advice? The improve yourself despite you can’t advice?^ This.
I doubted it would work out, I'm scared everytime that I'll screw up but you know what? I'm tired of letting myself down and as this thread proves, listening to others advice does actually help
. I know I am a better person because of this.I don’t get why you won’t anws my questions but whatever I’m going assume it’s kist luck that and your probably better looking and less disabled.
I don’t fail cause of lack of trying. So I’m not Afraid to try I message lots of women. Society lets me down.
I don't think anyone is less disabled. My Autism is pretty bad, it goes through phases and at the moment I'm in a good place. Sometimes it's so bad I can't leave my house. I'm just a happy guy and don't list all my problems online, if I told you them then you'd see that I'm probably as bad as many others here.
I came here for help regarding dating not about my IBS, my OCD or other stuff like that.
What was your question buddy? Sorry this thread moves fast I must have missed it
.Edit I wouldn't say I'm good looking either haha
I'm an average looking guy, trust me on that 
04 Oct 2018, 1:03 pm
04 Oct 2018, 1:28 pm
Fuzzyair wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Fuzzyair wrote:
Fnord wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Fuzzyair wrote:
... I followed the advice you guys gave me.
What advice? The improve yourself despite you can’t advice?^ This.
I doubted it would work out, I'm scared everytime that I'll screw up but you know what? I'm tired of letting myself down and as this thread proves, listening to others advice does actually help
. I know I am a better person because of this.I don’t get why you won’t anws my questions but whatever I’m going assume it’s kist luck that and your probably better looking and less disabled.
I don’t fail cause of lack of trying. So I’m not Afraid to try I message lots of women. Society lets me down.
I don't think anyone is less disabled. My Autism is pretty bad, it goes through phases and at the moment I'm in a good place. Sometimes it's so bad I can't leave my house. I'm just a happy guy and don't list all my problems online, if I told you them then you'd see that I'm probably as bad as many others here.
I came here for help regarding dating not about my IBS, my OCD or other stuff like that.
What was your question buddy? Sorry this thread moves fast I must have missed it
.Edit I wouldn't say I'm good looking either haha
I'm an average looking guy, trust me on that I asked where and how your meeting them.
Only women I’ve dated were from dating sites and usually come in pairs but then it’s years before I meet more I’ve never met one Dated been ended then days later meet another.
Thanks for not being aggressive and mean to me like fnord
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