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03 Jul 2021, 10:09 pm

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"The prostitute".......she never asks people for money and she appears to know most of the people there.

She's probably a swinger and in all honesty, .


Where is this location....(only asking for research purposes :wink: )


Well. Over the years I've heard a lot of rumours about a particular area in Wales being a type of lovers lane/dogging spot. I was heading to town after work which happens to pass through the area (a large area with a main arterial road for surrounding towns). I pulled over to make a call and there were a disproportionate number of people also pulled over heading in and out of the woods. It didn't take me long to realise what was going on.

I popped up last Saturday again but in the night
to the epicenter of the supposed mythical "social" event.

Within half an hour that woman approached me and in an hour cars started flooding in. It wasn't the wild affair the rumors suggested and was instead very discreet, no peeking allowed, keep 5 yards away but don't be shy and wait to see what happens type of thing. It was a big notch up from lovers lane but none of them were dogging or had any interest in it. They all seemed to know each other and we're all very chilled out folks. One even took me for a tour of the area.

It was amazing that this stuff was happening right on my door step by the people who on first appearance you would least suspect.

I guess I done the research for you lol.


Well then, I understand now why this lass is a very popular lady with the boys. Actually sexuality has been so vilified over the centuries thanks to puritanical christian prohibitions against sex. It's really silly that what consenting adults do is made so seedy in the eyes of a judgemental public.



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03 Jul 2021, 10:11 pm

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Regarding 1, does wrong planet have real time meetings? And if so, do you think I am out of luck because I whined here too much? Should I look for a different autism group where I can have a fresh start?


QFT you should spend less time online and more of your precious time in real-world outings/meetings putting to practice the pages of advice you have been given on WP.



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04 Jul 2021, 12:05 am

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Oh okay, and I was just asking of course, to try to figure what the problem could be as to why incel people do not get sex.

What about women, are there any incel women who cannot get it either, or is it true that they say some men will do anything, but not the other way around?
The "problem" is that women are naturally attracted to just 20% of men, and feel neutral about the rest at best. The reason the word "problem" is in quotes is that it's not a problem per se---it's biology. The "biology" can be subverted, but it's a morally gray area, and most mods would rather lose a limb than allow it to be posted.

There are no incel women, because men are naturally attracted to most women. So the majority of women can easily get sex if they so desire, just by going to their local bar. Hey, nobody said nature was fair; just ask Timon and Pumba from "The Lion King". Sadly, humans have a harder time embracing the "hakuna matata" mindset than meercats and warthogs do.



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04 Jul 2021, 12:09 am

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Well then, I understand now why this lass is a very popular lady with the boys. Actually sexuality has been so vilified over the centuries thanks to puritanical christian prohibitions against sex. It's really silly that what consenting adults do is made so seedy in the eyes of a judgemental public.


I don't think so. The only reason people can have as much sex as they have today is contraceptives. These are relatively recent, and before that sex always had the possible side-effect of pregancy. Something that women primarily would be affected with. Of course, it also is this "side-effect" that make women more picky about sex partners and if they want to have it at all.



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04 Jul 2021, 12:14 am

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Chemistry is a bit special in regards to autism. I think that if you want true chemistry as autistic, you need to look for other autistic people. Which is part of the problem. This means that increasing your dating pool is not a good idea since you are likely to just add more neurotypical people. Instead, you need to change the composition of your dating pool so it becomes more autistic.

Also, it's impossible to judge chemistry (at least autistic chemistry) with online dating. You need to meet people in real-life.


So you are suggesting I look for autistic s rather than nt, and I look in real world rather than online. What real-world places are you alluding to?


There are two primary methods:
1. Use the offical autism support groups and go to their real life meetings
2. Learn how to detect autistics in real life and use that to detect autistics in nornal real life settings.

If you go for 2, then you can join ordinary sub-culutures that you enjoy and that are likely to attract autistic women.


Regarding 1, does wrong planet have real time meetings? And if so, do you think I am out of luck because I whined here too much? Should I look for a different autism group where I can have a fresh start?


You should primarily focus on 2. You can use 1 as a way to get to know autistic women and how to identify them, but if you want a decent pool of autistic women you need to go outside of the autistic community. After all, it's only a minority of autistics that participate in the autistic community, and even fewer that go to real-life meetings. It's also better to look for a partner with sub-clinical autistic traits because then you can complement each other better.



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04 Jul 2021, 12:15 am

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Well then, I understand now why this lass is a very popular lady with the boys. Actually sexuality has been so vilified over the centuries thanks to puritanical christian prohibitions against sex. It's really silly that what consenting adults do is made so seedy in the eyes of a judgemental public.


I don't think so. The only reason people can have as much sex as they have today is contraceptives. These are relatively recent, and before that sex always had the possible side-effect of pregancy. Something that women primarily would be affected with. Of course, it also is this "side-effect" that make women more picky about sex partners and if they want to have it at all.


True, the contraception pill and inter-uterine devices has made engaging in sex easier, But it has not removed the stigma over sex as masturbation, porn and other forms of sex outside of marriage is socially considered "dirty" or "seedy".



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04 Jul 2021, 12:22 am

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Oh okay, and I was just asking of course, to try to figure what the problem could be as to why incel people do not get sex.

What about women, are there any incel women who cannot get it either, or is it true that they say some men will do anything, but not the other way around?
The "problem" is that women are naturally attracted to just 20% of men, and feel neutral about the rest at best. The reason the word "problem" is in quotes is that it's not a problem per se---it's biology. The "biology" can be subverted, but it's a morally gray area, and most mods would rather lose a limb than allow it to be posted.

There are no incel women, because men are naturally attracted to most women. So the majority of women can easily get sex if they so desire, just by going to their local bar. Hey, nobody said nature was fair; just ask Timon and Pumba from "The Lion King". Sadly, humans have a harder time embracing the "hakuna matata" mindset than meercats and warthogs do.


The primary biology of sex in women is "I will get pregnant", and not who is attractive or not, or what moral system is in place. This biology primarily relates to sexual intercourse, and not necessarily to other types of sexual activities. Something that will anticipate that women might be interested & hooked on other types of sexual activities, and possibly even more than men.



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04 Jul 2021, 12:27 am

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True, the contraception pill and inter-uterine devices has made engaging in sex easier, But it has not removed the stigma over sex as masturbation, porn and other forms of sex outside of marriage is socially considered "dirty" or "seedy".


I agree. These stigmas are similar to the stigmas about LGBT. Actually, anything except "usual" sexual intercourse has some kind of stigma, and regardless if it is men or women that do it. It only shows how unadaptable people are in this area.



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04 Jul 2021, 12:51 am

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True, the contraception pill and inter-uterine devices has made engaging in sex easier, But it has not removed the stigma over sex as masturbation, porn and other forms of sex outside of marriage is socially considered "dirty" or "seedy".


I agree. These stigmas are similar to the stigmas about LGBT. Actually, anything except "usual" sexual intercourse has some kind of stigma, and regardless if it is men or women that do it. It only shows how unadaptable people are in this area.


Its only been in the last 30 years that sex outside of marriage/de facto relationships have become widespread/acceptable. Otherwise outside of marriage it was (and often still is) unacceptable.

I still remember (as if it was yesterday) my then 18 yr old sister catching my father hiding behind a bush on university campus spying on her with binoculars as she was lying on the grass with her boyfriend. He couldn't cope with the idea she was kissing boys.



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04 Jul 2021, 5:06 am

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"The prostitute".......she never asks people for money and she appears to know most of the people there.

She's probably a swinger and in all honesty, .


Where is this location....(only asking for research purposes :wink: )


Well. Over the years I've heard a lot of rumours about a particular area in Wales being a type of lovers lane/dogging spot. I was heading to town after work which happens to pass through the area (a large area with a main arterial road for surrounding towns). I pulled over to make a call and there were a disproportionate number of people also pulled over heading in and out of the woods. It didn't take me long to realise what was going on.

I popped up last Saturday again but in the night
to the epicenter of the supposed mythical "social" event.

Within half an hour that woman approached me and in an hour cars started flooding in. It wasn't the wild affair the rumors suggested and was instead very discreet, no peeking allowed, keep 5 yards away but don't be shy and wait to see what happens type of thing. It was a big notch up from lovers lane but none of them were dogging or had any interest in it. They all seemed to know each other and we're all very chilled out folks. One even took me for a tour of the area.

It was amazing that this stuff was happening right on my door step by the people who on first appearance you would least suspect.

I guess I done the research for you lol.


Well then, I understand now why this lass is a very popular lady with the boys. Actually sexuality has been so vilified over the centuries thanks to puritanical christian prohibitions against sex. It's really silly that what consenting adults do is made so seedy in the eyes of a judgemental public.


These spots probably only developed as a result of vilification. Gay's not wanting to be ostracised by their family, teens not wanting to be met with a belt if their parents find out, heck, even disabled people who don't want to be gawked and and ridiculed by their neighbours. These spots are often exempt from the law on outraging public decency too and even the police intentionally never show up. It's no surprise everyone knows each other at these spots.

An incel might be doing themselves a favour by looking for one of these spots and getting to know people perhaps? Even though they appear to despise these types of people.



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04 Jul 2021, 5:19 am

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These spots probably only developed as a result of vilification. Gay's not wanting to be ostracised by their family, teens not wanting to be met with a belt if their parents find out, heck, even disabled people who don't want to be gawked and and ridiculed by their neighbours. These spots are often exempt from the law on outraging public decency too and even the police intentionally never show up. It's no surprise everyone knows each other at these spots.

An incel might be doing themselves a favour by looking for one of these spots and getting to know people perhaps? Even though they appear to despise these types of people.


You observed the spot ONCE and saw only ONE lady have sex indiscriminately with any man who happened to show up.

IF...IF...you see more women showing up, I'll agree with you. For now, I think one mentally-ill woman who's willing to have sex with anyone and everyone is doing just so, multiple times a night, in a clandestine location. If more women show up to engage, you may have a case. For now, I think the sole woman jumping anyone who comes along back-to-back is mentally ill, regardless of whether or not she's committed. I think those men are taking advantage of a singular mentally ill woman.



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04 Jul 2021, 5:26 am

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These spots probably only developed as a result of vilification. Gay's not wanting to be ostracised by their family, teens not wanting to be met with a belt if their parents find out, heck, even disabled people who don't want to be gawked and and ridiculed by their neighbours. These spots are often exempt from the law on outraging public decency too and even the police intentionally never show up. It's no surprise everyone knows each other at these spots.

An incel might be doing themselves a favour by looking for one of these spots and getting to know people perhaps? Even though they appear to despise these types of people.


You observed the spot ONCE and saw only ONE lady have sex indiscriminately with any man who happened to show up.

IF...IF...you see more women showing up, I'll agree with you. For now, I think one mentally-ill woman who's willing to have sex with anyone and everyone is doing just so, multiple times a night, in a clandestine location. If more women show up to engage, you may have a case. For now, I think the sole woman jumping anyone who comes along back-to-back is mentally ill, regardless of whether or not she's committed. I think those men are taking advantage of a singular mentally ill woman.


I went last night too. Seen five women there who also all knew each other along with another, even bigger spot.

It's really not a local urban legend and actually an entire community of people who've been at it for decades and know each other on first name terms.



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Nades wrote:
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These spots probably only developed as a result of vilification. Gay's not wanting to be ostracised by their family, teens not wanting to be met with a belt if their parents find out, heck, even disabled people who don't want to be gawked and and ridiculed by their neighbours. These spots are often exempt from the law on outraging public decency too and even the police intentionally never show up. It's no surprise everyone knows each other at these spots.

An incel might be doing themselves a favour by looking for one of these spots and getting to know people perhaps? Even though they appear to despise these types of people.


You observed the spot ONCE and saw only ONE lady have sex indiscriminately with any man who happened to show up.

IF...IF...you see more women showing up, I'll agree with you. For now, I think one mentally-ill woman who's willing to have sex with anyone and everyone is doing just so, multiple times a night, in a clandestine location. If more women show up to engage, you may have a case. For now, I think the sole woman jumping anyone who comes along back-to-back is mentally ill, regardless of whether or not she's committed. I think those men are taking advantage of a singular mentally ill woman.


I went last night too. Seen five women there who also all knew each other along with another, even bigger spot.

It's really not a local urban legend and actually an entire community of people who've been at it for decades and know each other on first name terms.


Have you used their services?



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These spots probably only developed as a result of vilification. Gay's not wanting to be ostracised by their family, teens not wanting to be met with a belt if their parents find out, heck, even disabled people who don't want to be gawked and and ridiculed by their neighbours. These spots are often exempt from the law on outraging public decency too and even the police intentionally never show up. It's no surprise everyone knows each other at these spots.

An incel might be doing themselves a favour by looking for one of these spots and getting to know people perhaps? Even though they appear to despise these types of people.


You observed the spot ONCE and saw only ONE lady have sex indiscriminately with any man who happened to show up.

IF...IF...you see more women showing up, I'll agree with you. For now, I think one mentally-ill woman who's willing to have sex with anyone and everyone is doing just so, multiple times a night, in a clandestine location. If more women show up to engage, you may have a case. For now, I think the sole woman jumping anyone who comes along back-to-back is mentally ill, regardless of whether or not she's committed. I think those men are taking advantage of a singular mentally ill woman.


I went last night too. Seen five women there who also all knew each other along with another, even bigger spot.

It's really not a local urban legend and actually an entire community of people who've been at it for decades and know each other on first name terms.


Have you used their services?


Nope lol. Just wondering what the heck is going on minutes from my home.



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Nope lol. Just wondering what the heck is going on minutes from my home.


You should create a podcast, "Wales after dark" should imagine it will be popular :lol:



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Nope lol. Just wondering what the heck is going on minutes from my home.


You should create a podcast, "Wales after dark" should imagine it will be popular :lol:


Honestly it would be popular. I grossly underestimated the sheer numbers of people engaging in this stuff. Quite a substantial car park was rammed with cars at 1am so there "free spirits" are certainly out there and perhaps more of them than I initial thought.