My gf seems to be bothered that I am 'white and privileged'.

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I hope things work out for you. Still, your girlfriend seems totally brainwashed by the Marxist indoctrination, and will blame you, or "the patriarchy", or "the white people", or "the Orange Man" (despite being Canadian), or "the trucker convoy" for the troubles in her life; in other words, everyone but herself. It's honorable that you want to save the relationship and keep her in your life, but she seems as toxic to your mental health as Chernobyl to the surrounding land. And you, in turn, unnecessarily frustrate her by "not being woke enough". The humane thing to do now---for both of you---is to break up.

There is “white privilege”—but this does not apply to most white people these days.

Yes it does. Authority: I am white and live in a state that is 31% black.

It might apply to the corporate executive….but it doesn’t apply to someone who works at Walmart.

I live in a “majority minority” city. My co-workers and bosses have mostly been black and Hispanic. My manager now is a black man. I live in a majority “minority” neighborhood.

It's not my usual style to be argumentative, but I will re-iterate that in my experience White Privilege is a thing, and if there were more non-white participants on this forum I predict (without any form of proof) that most would agree. That's the last I'll say on the topic.

oh okay thanks. This is what I thought as well perhaps. But how do you tell her that she's been indoctrinated without it coming off as a bad thing to say if that makes sense?

Where did I say it wasn’t a “thing”?

I acknowledge it exists…I acknowledge the history. I’ve studied the history extensively.

My wife is black. Many of my friends and lovers have been black and other minorities. They’ve relayed their experiences to me. I understand more than you assume I understand. You speaking like you know me, somehow.

But most white people don’t benefit from it these days. Would you say a white person working at Walmart, with no medical benefits, having to raise kids, benefits from being white?

I’m not going to ask a struggling person to “check his/her privilege.”

You can't. Indoctrination isn't just intense teaching; it's brainwashing. Her mind has been altered into hating anyone she perceives as "privileged". Nothing you say will dissuade her of the "privilege" concept.

It's like Old Yeller getting bitten by a bear with rabies, like in the book. Her body is the same, but her mind is not. Your mental health matters more than your alleged "privilege". Meet a conservative woman, if you can; they're a pleasure to be around. I know from experience.

OK it just seemed to me you were making a major effort to de-emphasize the importance of White Privilege in our society, as though you are concerned that it might be blown out of proportion by SJWs. Clearly I don't know you and you are absolutely entitled to your opinions. I don't think you are pushing an agenda (and some people here most definitely are).

Maybe I'm pushing an agenda. I am irrationally opposed to anything Donald Trump and his followers represent, and to me it seems that one thing Trump does is offer comfort to white people who resent being told they benefit from White Privilege.

I dislike Trump AT LEAST AS MUCH as you dislike Trump.

Ive stated this MANY times.

Ive read extensively about slavery, the civil rights movement, etc.

I just don’t believe that “whiteness” necessarily equals “privilege” at the grass roots level.

As far as history and statistics are concerned—there is, obviously, white privileged—but a person living in a shack wouldn’t relate to this.

Oh okay, I guess I just think it's possible to 'unbrainwash' a person but is it? But also, if she has been altered to dating anyone she feels is privileged then why is she dating me then? Should I just tell her next time it comes, up that maybe if she has a problem white people and males, then maybe she would be better off and happier with a non-white woman?

I mean, if we assume 'white privilege' means one will absolutely be privileged compared to average than you might be on to something but that's never been what the concept refers to.

That white guy who's mentally ill and homeless has it harder than that middle class person of colour really isn't a valid criticism. Compared against someone who's otherwise identical the person who's white passing is still likely to avoid racially driven discrimination and scrutiny so at the end of the day white privilege is still a consideration even if they enjoy very little privilege overall.

Short answer:
No. Although, in the last 20 years, straight women women have been "experimenting" constantly, and randomly deciding they're LGBT. So who knows what's in that mind of hers! Either way, she's more trouble than it's worth. Dump her like a full trash bag of garbage collection day!

Long answer:
Unbraiwashing a liberal woman as a man is like a parentified child trying to stop his parents from fighting with each other. In other words, you're trying to do a job of a 40-something shrink . In other words, you're doing a Sisyphus's labor! You're spinning your wheels doing what you THINK is possible, only to fail time and time again.

Dude, I know you've grown attached to that woman, and you want to stay with her. That's well and good. But you're doing what I stupidly tried to do when I was 13: try to change the minds of adults who couldn't care less about my thoughts and feelings. I was trying to stop my parents from divorcing. Well, I did succeed---but that was because I planted a fake suicide note in my room, and I'm pretty sure they saw it, because they haven't brought up divorce ever since. If I hadn't done that, my parents wouldn't give two _hits about me as long as I stayed alive; they just wanted to keep a subhuman toy to boss around. No more than your girlfriend gives about you when blaming you for all her problems.

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She's not brainwashed white privilege is a real thing, she may be a little hyperfocused on it maybe for whatever reason, but being aware of white privilege does not make someone brainwashed. Seems to me she thinks you are kind of ignorant about it and that bothers her.

But does she even know you have autism which is a disability? if she's not aware of that then she wouldn't know you face struggles non-disabled white males don't face as much. I wouldn't advise saying what you posted though, that'll just come off accusatory it would probably be better to try and find some middle ground.

Oh I know white privelege is a real thing, it's just I find that she brings it up in an argumentive way, in situations that do not have to do with it though. So I acknowledge that it's real, I just don't think it should be applied to all these situations where I didn't feel it was called for with me.

Like for example, I was trying to do some banking, and the person had an accent so think I could hardly understand a word they were saying.

I got frustrated after the call and said I wish the bank would hire people that could speak English since almost everyonein this city speaks English and that is where the bank is. Then she compared to white privilege again. But I didn't think it was a white privilege thing, it is just a logical customer service thing? Can't customer service just be it's own thing for a phone operator, without being compared to white privilege?

But I am just using a recent example. She knows I have autism and she is autistic as well. But since we are both autistic, I guess that one cancels itself out when it comes to a privilege debate?

It's amazing this discussion has gone on for so long. The whole idea of White Privilege is so triggering to many people, which is one reason Trump remains so popular.

You should find a TV producer and propose a reality show starring yourselves.