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Ragtime
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04 Oct 2007, 10:47 am

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There's no place for logic in this argument.


That's why there's room for you, kitty cat! :P

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It all boils down to whether you think the Bible is truth or not.

Rags thinks women should submit to their husbands for the same reason he won't eat shellfish or wear wool/linen blends: Because the Bible says so.


Demonstrating your vice-like grip on facts, you're incorrect about those last two things being my beliefs, so I guess that's why you believe in purple dinosaurs and global warming. (Did I get at least one of those right?)


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04 Oct 2007, 11:08 am

But... but... what about Leviticus?

God wrote:
10:10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:

10:11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.

10:12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

19:19 ...neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.


Surely you don't think God is right about women submitting to their husbands, but wrong about shellfish and wool/linen blends?

God is NOT MOCKED!!



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04 Oct 2007, 11:26 am

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...who forgot to shut the gate when they left the PP&R area....



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04 Oct 2007, 11:30 am

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...who forgot to shut the gate when they left the PP&R area....


Sorry... I guess God is omnipresent! :P


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04 Oct 2007, 11:31 am

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Sorry... I guess God is omnipresent! :P

Talk of "God" seems to be... Until you've got a nice photo of "him," with someone else with a photo taken at the same time, in a different location, I have no reason to believe you to be correct.



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04 Oct 2007, 1:59 pm

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sometimes i call you "chicken lil" to myself


The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Ya, I call you things too.

Perhaps we should poll the audience to see if they have any idea what points you're currently wanting me to answer.

And it was you who left the thread for a while, not me, so I don't know why you're saying I "wait" until the thread gets convoluted...

Plus, you're famous for *missing* my clear, simple statements in your responses, so don't start with your hallucinated claims of my failure to answer.


w/e lol

im just glad i never ran into you on the street and somehow started dating you. lol im so glad to know your delusions in their purest context

i dont miss most your points... and if i do, then i do apologize so w/e... i never said i was right all the time. for the most part... your analagies and logic are somewhat lacking anyway, so my intelligence isnt really offended when chicken little says i mis his point

the point i was referring to was that you were unclear on your definition of equal in relationships. which you've sucessfully dodged SURPIRSE to where it now has no meaning in conversation... so technically i am babbling (harping) on it at this point, but it's because you can't keep up


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04 Oct 2007, 2:41 pm

Sedaka wrote:
w/e lol


I agree.

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im just glad i never ran into you on the street and somehow started dating you.


Once again, I agree.

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lol im so glad to know your delusions in their purest context



Yeah, right... "Sedaka the intuitive." You've correctly interpretted so little about me, yet you think you know me.

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for the most part... your analagies and logic are somewhat lacking anyway, so my intelligence isnt really offended when chicken little says i mis his point


A self-contradictory sentence? ^_^ According to that, you may be missing my points, yet you know they don't make sense? :? How does that work, exactly, where you're able to make conclusions on data you haven't collected?
Is that some evolutionists' trick or something? :wink: In the terms of your favorite pseudo-science, "Further research is needed."

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the point i was referring to was that you were unclear on your definition of equal in relationships. which you've sucessfully dodged SURPIRSE to where it now has no meaning in conversation... so technically i am babbling (harping) on it at this point, but it's because you can't keep up


Well, it was calandale who was using the word "equal" to describe how husbands and wives should live.

But, if I were to use the term, my definition of it ISN'T "everything is exactly the same".
Thank goodness penises and vaginas aren't the same! That wouldn't work too well...

My definition of "equal" in marriage (though, again, I haven't used that term) WOULD include roles for both husband and wife, and the husband is in charge. That's why I wouldn't use the word equal. It's like saying the president of the U.S. is equal to the average U.S. citizen -- a U.S. president is equal to us in basic ways, but of course he's unequal in the rightful amount of power that his duties give him.

Husband leadership and wifely submission in the home is the principle upon which free and functioning societies are based, built, and in which they consist.

And you never answered two of my important points:

1. Why can Ann Coulter see the importance and high functionality of male leadership in the home, but you can't?

2. Is she smarter than you?

Both of these questions you completely ignored, whilst accusing me of skipping over some phantom point you made somewhere at some time.



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04 Oct 2007, 3:28 pm

juliekitty wrote:
There's no place for logic in this argument. It all boils down to whether you think the Bible is truth or not.

Rags thinks women should submit to their husbands for the same reason he won't eat shellfish or wear wool/linen blends: Because the Bible says so.

Reason ain't gonna change his mind.

Amen!
God bless you, juliekitty.


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04 Oct 2007, 3:52 pm

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But, if I were to use the term, my definition of it ISN'T "everything is exactly the same".
Thank goodness penises and vaginas aren't the same! That wouldn't work too well...

What penises and vaginas have to do with it? are you using that as an example of why women should be submissive and their husband being a leader, because he is the one who does the penetration? It's very funny if you actually believe that.

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My definition of "equal" in marriage (though, again, I haven't used that term) WOULD include roles for both husband and wife, and the husband is in charge. That's why I wouldn't use the word equal. It's like saying the president of the U.S. is equal to the average U.S. citizen -- a U.S. president is equal to us in basic ways, but of course he's unequal in his rightful amount of power that his duties give him.

How the husband being in charge is equal in your definition? That logic is really amazing.

You know, with that statement above, you are practically saying that men have more mental capabilities and aptitudes than women. In other words, women are inferior and men have more benefit just because they were born male, and that is God's plan?

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Hasband leadership and wifely submission in the home is the principle upon which free and functioning societies are based, built, and in which they consist.

Wife submission and free society in the same sentence? :?


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04 Oct 2007, 3:59 pm

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That's true anywhere: if you're not the leader, you will be a follower. Equality is a joke, but independence is lonely.

O RLY?

So if there is no white, must be black, nothing more, right?

Maybe something else is a joke here, but definitely not equality, which is serious.


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04 Oct 2007, 4:02 pm

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Ah, I see another bird has appeared,
but spouting meaningless noises, with
no arguments.

Parakeet, if you can't manage any sense,
don't expect an answer. I don't respond to
mere trolling.


Then what r u doing on Wrongplanet? :o

He's not trolling, and I find his arguments to be a whole lot more intelligent than yours.

And you seem to be insulting a few people here, I wonder if that is how a good Christian should behave.


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04 Oct 2007, 4:07 pm

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Ah, I see another bird has appeared,
but spouting meaningless noises, with
no arguments.

Parakeet, if you can't manage any sense,
don't expect an answer. I don't respond to
mere trolling.

I believe that may add a little more of entertainment.


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04 Oct 2007, 4:08 pm

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Ah, when you're the one insulting my friend? Church of Ragtime?

Is he your friend?


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04 Oct 2007, 4:40 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Hasband leadership and wifely submission in the home is the principle upon which free and functioning societies are based, built, and in which they consist.


Thank God for THIS emoticon: :roll:

Ragtime wrote:
Both of these questions you completely ignored


Well, I haven't yet heard YOU explain how it is that we're supposed to obey the Biblical command to obey our husbands, yet it's okay for you to disobey the Biblical commands not to eat shellfish or wear wool/linen blends.

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Why can Ann Coulter see the importance and high functionality of male leadership in the home


Because Ann Coulter is a cretin.

You're welcome.



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04 Oct 2007, 5:17 pm

This thread is a good example for evolution ....evolving from a single tiny mini thread into well deep developed threadS



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04 Oct 2007, 5:24 pm

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Then compare with the last part of Genesis 4:7. The Hebrew wording is exactly the same as in Gen 3:16, when 4:7 describes sin's "desire" unto Cain.


[Genesis 4:7 KJV+] If518 thou doest well,3190 shalt thou not3808 be accepted?7613 and if518 thou doest not3808 well,3190 sin2403 lieth7257 at the door.6607 And unto413 thee shall be his desire,8669 and thou859 shalt rule4910 over him.

[Genesis 3:16 KJV+] Unto413 the woman802 he said,559 I will greatly7235 multiply7235 thy sorrow6093 and thy conception;2032 in sorrow6089 thou shalt bring forth3205 children;1121 and thy desire8669 shall be to413 thy husband,376 and he1931 shall rule4910 over thee.

"And unto413 thee shall be his desire,8669 and thou859 shalt rule4910 over him."
"and thy desire8669 shall be to413 thy husband,376 and he1931 shall rule4910 over thee."

Similar, definitely.