Bigotry against involuntarily celibate men

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My biggest problem is when I talk I sound like an idiot! So I try to avoid talking as much as possible and this limits problems but makes it impossible to form friendships/relationships because no one knows me.

Last edited by Aspie19828 on 15 Dec 2018, 2:48 am, edited 1 time in total.

I think this Internet "incel" culture sucks as bad as everybody else on here, but the reason why they created such a cesspool in the first place is a reaction to the other radical extreme side that created their own cesspool.

What's the other side? Is that the groups of women advocating for the rape and murder of male children and mass murdering people in the name of misandry? Who are they again and what murders have they committed, and what is their reddit called?

I dunno if this will make you feel better.

I was venting my frustration to a friend and she said, "I guess we just get you because we know you well." Her point was these guys who are rejecting me don't know who I really am..
And I'm difficult to get to know.

Who you really are under all the awkwardness is good, but it's hard for people to get to.

If a woman does not talk to a guy first and does not say she is interested, she is not interested and probably thinks he is a creep/loser. There must be instant attraction, love at first sight.

All of your communication seems to be very unidirectional, as in you just seem to be speaking at us rather than trying to talk with us. You really should try quoting the comments you are responding to so we can tell who you are addressing with your comments, and maybe asking some questions instead of just making statements. It's hard to respond to your comments otherwise.

I have a disability and I struggle at communication and I have had limited communication through out my life. I make statements as fact. The inability for others to debate my statements proves my statements are facts!

No, it means that some of your statements are too “out there” to debate. That some of your statements are fallacies.

There is no such thing as love at first sight. Attraction perhaps. Curiosity maybe. Attraction can be based on a person’s looks, behaviour, intellect ..... Love grows from that, over time. Says someone who has been married to the same person for 26 years and loves him more every day. We met as colleagues, became friends and then a couple.

Yes, and I'm trying to help you improve your communication and you're not listening to me. This is part of the problem, you don't actually take in anything anyone else is saying, you just sort of stand in the corner occasionally shouting out random things that no one responds to. You need to try listening to others and asking questions, like I said. This will help you improve your communication skills, if you can start getting into conversations that are more back-and-forth and less just you talking at people. You need to practice the exchange that normal conversation is, by offering statements and then asking questions. If you don't start asking for feedback, no one will want to converse with you.

Also: Please quote the comment of the person you are responding to so we know what you are answering.
Like I did when I responded to you above. You need to directly address the person you are talking to by quoting their comment, otherwise we can't tell who you are answering.

Ok, a bit snappish on my part! Your comments just above the one I quoted really struck me. I know other women have posted here multitudes of times that men do not “know” what women think. Women do. Followed by another post that your statements are facts. Kara has made a good point. Try to draw people into conversations by asking questions. If you had posted something like “what do you think?” after that post you might have got some back and forth comments. And I would suspect that in this sub forum you would want conversation, not debate.

I will continue on telling how I see the world and I will not respond to people insulting me on here. Non-Autistics and their perfect easy lives do not understand how hard it is being Autistic and unable to communicate. I do not even go outside my house because life is too hard to even bother because Non-Autistics do not accept Autistic people like me.

I'm not trying to insult you, I'm trying to help you understand why your comments weren't getting any responses. If you want to keep posting in the same way and not getting into any discussions with people, that is your prerogative, but it makes one wonder why you are participating in a discussion forum if you don't want to have discussions.

I have mentioned repeatedly quoting the people you are responding to so we can tell who you are talking to, and you have refused to do that. That indicates to me that you don't want to get better at communicating with people. So what do you want to accomplish here?

And for the record, I am autistic. I was diagnosed as an adult. So I do understand difficulties with communication as I have some of my own, as do most people here. Maybe you could try to learn some things from people in similar circumstances to yourself, as are most of the people here.

There are a lot more people who say or suggest that all lonely men are complaining because of misogyny.

They’re wrong.

Or entitlement.

Lonely men are not lonely because they feel “entitled.”

They’re lonely because they have a desire for romance....and are not realizing this desire.

I might “desire” a diamond ring—but I don’t feel “entitled” to it.

In my lonely days, I never felt that I was “entitled,” nor did I feel dislike or disrespect towards women.