Bigotry against involuntarily celibate men

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You're right, though being a lonely "entitled" young man or sometimes a woman is what a lot of people think of such people these days.

These people who think this way are usually wrong.

And they associate entitlement to an inherited historical patriarchy, hence back to misogyny.

I'm a woman and I don't get the entitlement argument.

Now, there's the horrible incel boards that advocate rape. That's wrong. That's entitled.

Blaming ALL women for being shallow is wrong because they're all individuals. Its not entitled, it's just narrow minded.

But your average lonely guy just wants what is part of regular human, nay mammal, life. Nothing wrong with that.

They discuss why it's difficult for them to have that life. Nothing wrong or entitled about that.

They discuss improvements they can make to themselves or things they can do so that they can be attractive to women. Nothing wrong or entitled about that either.

No, there is nothing wrong with that.

It's when a lonely guy crosses over into the Entitlement Zone when things start going wrong...

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The Incel's Creed

If I want to have sex with her, then I deserve to have sex with her.
If I didn't want sex with her and I change my mind later, then I deserve to have sex with her.
If I can force her to have sex with me, then I deserve to have sex with her.
If I had sex with her previously, then I deserve to have sex with her again.
If she has had sex with another man, then I deserve to have sex with her.
If we are working together, then I deserve to have sex with her.
If she looks like she's asking for sex, then I deserve to have sex with her.

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Now I feel I have to wash my hand for typing all of that...

I don't understand why it has to be controversial for some people on this forum that some guys want to vent about having the experience of repeated rejection by women. This is a forum where the majority of people are more-or-less socially awkward or have struggles with forming platonic or romantic relationships, and I notice that some of these young autistic men themselves have been drawn to the likes of MGTOW or more extreme movements because of what OP has stated and repeatedly restated throughout this topic.

I don't know what this forum is for if people aren't allowed to discuss topics about their personal social or other struggles because of being called entitled or bigoted/misogynist when trying to speak out. Some of the people who post here sound just as emotional and non-nuanced in arguments as we say NT's are.

I’ve never done any of those yet yiu and others say I’m entitlement, or misogynistic just because I talk about my issues, being lonely, or how I wish society and womensnideas would change.

So,emhave suggested it only be for successful aspies who are in relationships and that all others be exiled to reddit or Craig’s list. Basically to send them to incel forums

Sly, I don't see you as entitled or misogynistic whatsoever. I see you as very humble, albeit depressed and lonely. Please don't think that you're viewed otherwise. I think you're a really good guy.

Sadly some here doe view me as that way and try to get me banned permanently.
They view other lonely guys same way too.
I think it’s more that our existence is in contradiction to their idea of how the world works. They live where everyone’s happy, everyone’s successful, so sadly lonely unsuccessful people question their reality. It bums them out so they’d rather no hear it.

http://antifeminismaustralia.com/men-lose-dating-game/
According to dating site OkCupid, women rated a whopping 80% of the men as “below average”. This means that at least 80% of men on the site will miss out. For those 20% of “eligible” men, I would estimate that 10% of those are considered “average” looking, with the remaining 10% being considered as “good looking”. This means that the majority of women would only be interested in the top 10% of men. To be in the top 10% of men you need to be tall, rich, and drive a luxury car.

This is extremely true, I know no man who prefers chasing over being asked out.

I've always thought I would have more success in dating as a male.

I'm viewed as a bit strong willed and over confident. I feel like I'm always the one doing the chasing. I'm always the one looking up the what's on listings locally to find something to invite him to.

I'm a bit sick of it. I wish for once someone would make an effort for me.

Wish there were more like you
Particularly ones who find me attractive.
Like the movies where the woman goes after the guy and asks him out, brings him cookies, follows him around etc

Aha! So that's where I'm going wrong. I need to be doing more baking

Have you tried being really flirty and joining in on activities THEY like? That sort of behaviour would get my attention fast, probably would for other guys too.