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The Grand Inquisitor
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22 Dec 2018, 7:09 pm

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Regarding the past few pages if this discussion, I don't understand why people still think that being skinny is attractive. I have a BMI of about 18 (slightly underweight) and would be actively put off by a woman with a BMI less than 20.

That’s thin
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20-25 is thin
25-30 is average
30-33 chubby
Then you have obese
So you do prefer thin women, just not underweight women just like most men do.
I’m a 29ish so I’m either average or chubby depending on how others see it.
Not popular with women as they want a guy who’s 20-25

If you're a size 44 you're probably bigger than a 29. What's your height and weight?



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24 Dec 2018, 1:16 pm

I have a 30 BMI.



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24 Dec 2018, 1:21 pm

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What the hell Sly. I didn't say lie about all that stuff. Sigh.

I’m I’m not into those interest though so I’d have to fake it which is lying.
Unless I should go there and when asked be like I don’t like this I’m just hear to meet women?


Or you could take an interest in learning something new.

I think we have very different perspectives on how we experience life.



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24 Dec 2018, 2:00 pm

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Prometheus18 wrote:
Regarding the past few pages if this discussion, I don't understand why people still think that being skinny is attractive. I have a BMI of about 18 (slightly underweight) and would be actively put off by a woman with a BMI less than 20.

That’s thin
Image
20-25 is thin
25-30 is average
30-33 chubby
Then you have obese
So you do prefer thin women, just not underweight women just like most men do.
I’m a 29ish so I’m either average or chubby depending on how others see it.
Not popular with women as they want a guy who’s 20-25

If you're a size 44 you're probably bigger than a 29. What's your height and weight?

Sly's quite tall.



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24 Dec 2018, 2:04 pm

sly279 wrote:
Prometheus18 wrote:
Regarding the past few pages if this discussion, I don't understand why people still think that being skinny is attractive. I have a BMI of about 18 (slightly underweight) and would be actively put off by a woman with a BMI less than 20.

That’s thin
Image
20-25 is thin
25-30 is average
30-33 chubby
Then you have obese
So you do prefer thin women, just not underweight women just like most men do.
I’m a 29ish so I’m either average or chubby depending on how others see it.
Not popular with women as they want a guy who’s 20-25


I didn't realize that. I suppose my ideal figure would be about 28-30, then.



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24 Dec 2018, 2:37 pm

And I'm rather short....Sly is about 10 inches taller than me.



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24 Dec 2018, 3:27 pm

hurtloam wrote:
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What the hell Sly. I didn't say lie about all that stuff. Sigh.

I’m I’m not into those interest though so I’d have to fake it which is lying.
Unless I should go there and when asked be like I don’t like this I’m just hear to meet women?


Or you could take an interest in learning something new.

I think we have very different perspectives on how we experience life.

You must have wider interest, which is odd for aspies since we tend to have a special interest we solely obsess about.
I have limited interest, I don’t like music instruments, kinitting, sewing,arts and crafts etc
Women don’t tend to like guns, shooting, video games, coins, swords and knives, camping,hiking etc
So if I go to a art class it’s fake. I don’t like art I have no interest in it. It’d be as bad as me going to a library.



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24 Dec 2018, 3:29 pm

Prometheus18 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Prometheus18 wrote:
Regarding the past few pages if this discussion, I don't understand why people still think that being skinny is attractive. I have a BMI of about 18 (slightly underweight) and would be actively put off by a woman with a BMI less than 20.

That’s thin
Image
20-25 is thin
25-30 is average
30-33 chubby
Then you have obese
So you do prefer thin women, just not underweight women just like most men do.
I’m a 29ish so I’m either average or chubby depending on how others see it.
Not popular with women as they want a guy who’s 20-25


I didn't realize that. I suppose my ideal figure would be about 28-30, then.


I look like the 29 guy. I have a bell but my fat doesn’t expand sidways. You can feel my ribs in my side and chest.i have what they call a beer belly. I don’t have much fat on my legs or arms. My fingers are pretty thin.
People I consider obese tend to have fat everywhere



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24 Dec 2018, 3:36 pm

sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
What the hell Sly. I didn't say lie about all that stuff. Sigh.

I’m I’m not into those interest though so I’d have to fake it which is lying.
Unless I should go there and when asked be like I don’t like this I’m just hear to meet women?


Or you could take an interest in learning something new.

I think we have very different perspectives on how we experience life.

You must have wider interest, which is odd for aspies since we tend to have a special interest we solely obsess about.
I have limited interest, I don’t like music instruments, kinitting, sewing,arts and crafts etc
Women don’t tend to like guns, shooting, video games, coins, swords and knives, camping,hiking etc
So if I go to a art class it’s fake. I don’t like art I have no interest in it. It’d be as bad as me going to a library.


Women don't just like knitting, sewing, arts and crafts.

It's not impossible for aspies to like new things and enjoy something different. You aren't trapped by your special interests.



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24 Dec 2018, 3:41 pm

hurtloam wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
What the hell Sly. I didn't say lie about all that stuff. Sigh.

I’m I’m not into those interest though so I’d have to fake it which is lying.
Unless I should go there and when asked be like I don’t like this I’m just hear to meet women?


Or you could take an interest in learning something new.

I think we have very different perspectives on how we experience life.

You must have wider interest, which is odd for aspies since we tend to have a special interest we solely obsess about.
I have limited interest, I don’t like music instruments, kinitting, sewing,arts and crafts etc
Women don’t tend to like guns, shooting, video games, coins, swords and knives, camping,hiking etc
So if I go to a art class it’s fake. I don’t like art I have no interest in it. It’d be as bad as me going to a library.


Women don't just like knitting, sewing, arts and crafts.

It's not impossible for aspies to like new things and enjoy something different. You aren't trapped by your special interests.


Most women do stereotype women stuff
Most men do stereotype men stuff
It’s why there stereotype gender stuff.
Some won’t but majority do.
Most women I’ve met do thst stuff or go shopping st the map on weekends for fun. I wouldn’t find shopping for clothes every weekend fun. They wouldn’t find video games fun or camping fun. I’ve only met one woman who said they’d go camping the rest avoid it like the plague, or will do it only if the place has bathrooms and showers.
Would yo go camping in the woods with no bathrooms or running water?
It’s impossible to like stuff you don’t like.
Suggest something women do I’d like thsts nit a stereotypical women’s activity .cause I can’t think of anything



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24 Dec 2018, 3:49 pm

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Being an incel is a black hole: at the age of 20, 25, 30 or beyond there is a point you realise you have absolutely no hope and just give up and accept the reality of your situation. More single guys and less available single women in most cities/towns and it is a simple mathematical equation where some guys just remain undateable regardless of what job they do or their personality. There are some losers/jerks that have just got lucky and beaten the system, where other guys that are better than them remain undateable.


All you do is spout blackpill nonsense. Stop trying to radicalize vulnerable young men here. You preach despair and hopelessness, I hope no one listens to you. What you say is dangerous and destroys lives. The suicide rates are up among young men because they talk to people like you online who "comfort" them with constant talk of giving up and killing yourself. Everything you say is dripping with this diseased miasma of hopelessness, and you're trying to infect everyone around you with it. You need some kind of intervention for your own sake psychologically speaking, but for the sake of the community here you really need to stop spewing this despair dogma.

Stop telling people to give up hope and to not try to have some kind of social life. It's evil. You're participating in an evil thing. You cannot turn WrongPlanet into one of your incel echo-chambers, I think you will find it's not welcome among the large majority of autistic people here. This community is supposed to be a positive, supportive place. Not a recruitment centre for your death cult.


I agree that we shouldn't just go around spreading hopelessness and telling people nothing will ever get better. Personally, I want more than anything to find a reason to hope and believe things will improve. But the reality of my situation simply does not support that. The reality of my life is as follows: I am 36 years old. I still have no career or career prospects. I'm buried in student loan debt, have terrible credit, and am always broke. I suffer from autism, anxiety disorder, and major depression; and am emotionally unstable and prone to emotional meltdowns. And I'm overweight. Essentially, anyone who dates or marries me will end up having to take care of me much more often than the other way around. Think about it: would you want to date someone who fits that description?
And add to that the fact that the supply of single women is dwindling, and that the vast majority of women who are still single are so likely for a good reason: either they are so unpleasant they push any potential suitor away, or they have unrealistic expectations which nearly nobody can live up to. I mean, if she isn't one of these two, there is no reason for her to still be single. And the few who are for one reason or another will always have better options than me available.
Additionally, as an atheist I fail to conform to the cultural standards of my local community. The vast majority of women won't touch me because of that alone.
Now, if it was someone possible for me to meet every woman in the world at a stage in her life when she was still single, then would I be able to find someone I'm compatible with? I'm fairly certain I could in theory. But that's not how reality works.



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24 Dec 2018, 3:51 pm

I have a very wide range of interests so I'm not your typical autistic.
Autism doesn't mean one set thing, we're all individuals with varying traits.


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24 Dec 2018, 4:10 pm

sly279 wrote:
Prometheus18 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Prometheus18 wrote:
Regarding the past few pages if this discussion, I don't understand why people still think that being skinny is attractive. I have a BMI of about 18 (slightly underweight) and would be actively put off by a woman with a BMI less than 20.

That’s thin
Image
20-25 is thin
25-30 is average
30-33 chubby
Then you have obese
So you do prefer thin women, just not underweight women just like most men do.
I’m a 29ish so I’m either average or chubby depending on how others see it.
Not popular with women as they want a guy who’s 20-25


I didn't realize that. I suppose my ideal figure would be about 28-30, then.


I look like the 29 guy. I have a bell but my fat doesn’t expand sidways. You can feel my ribs in my side and chest.i have what they call a beer belly. I don’t have much fat on my legs or arms. My fingers are pretty thin.
People I consider obese tend to have fat everywhere


Well in many ways I'd rather be built that way than the way I am. Even if it's not muscle, a bigger guy is invariably stronger. Certainly I think a woman looks best in the category listed "slightly overweight" here, and I think I'm not alone in thinking this.

Perhaps women think similar things about men. It's not nice to be too thin.



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I have a very wide range of interests so I'm not your typical autistic.
Autism doesn't mean one set thing, we're all individuals with varying traits.

Being obsessed about one topic is part of the aspergers diagnosis
That we get stuck on things and go on and on and on about them for years.



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24 Dec 2018, 4:23 pm

I don't know that many women who sew these days. My friends come to me if they need alterations because they don't know how to do it.

Things all genders like:

Learning a new language
Learning first aid
Genealogy (researching your family history)
Cooking
Improving computer skills
Table top gaming (there's a group near you with female members)
Walking clubs "get outside"
Film clubs
Fictional writing
Improv
Catovers flu
Dog walking club (May need a dog for this one though)
Dance
Dodgeball
Mix n mingle group (there's one near you)
Recycling/environment/beach clean/
Rowing/canoeing
Puppeteering
Comics
Cycling
There's a lot of programming groups near me (hmm when I'm feeling a bit better I might investigate)
Pub quiz (No sure if this is just a British thing)
Craft beer lovers



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24 Dec 2018, 4:40 pm

Prometheus18 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Prometheus18 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Prometheus18 wrote:
Regarding the past few pages if this discussion, I don't understand why people still think that being skinny is attractive. I have a BMI of about 18 (slightly underweight) and would be actively put off by a woman with a BMI less than 20.

That’s thin
Image
20-25 is thin
25-30 is average
30-33 chubby
Then you have obese
So you do prefer thin women, just not underweight women just like most men do.
I’m a 29ish so I’m either average or chubby depending on how others see it.
Not popular with women as they want a guy who’s 20-25


I didn't realize that. I suppose my ideal figure would be about 28-30, then.


I look like the 29 guy. I have a bell but my fat doesn’t expand sidways. You can feel my ribs in my side and chest.i have what they call a beer belly. I don’t have much fat on my legs or arms. My fingers are pretty thin.
People I consider obese tend to have fat everywhere


Well in many ways I'd rather be built that way than the way I am. Even if it's not muscle, a bigger guy is invariably stronger. Certainly I think a woman looks best in the category listed "slightly overweight" here, and I think I'm not alone in thinking this.

Perhaps women think similar things about men. It's not nice to be too thin.


Most want a 22-24 BMI guy. Probably same for most men about womem