Daemonic-Jackal wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Daemonic-Jackal wrote:
Jono wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Selfish
lives with parents
Why is living with parents always a deal breaker for some people? What happens if there is a valid reason for doing so?
Women only consider that a turn off because it means the guy hasn't got much money which then in turn means he can't spoil the girl rotten and then she can't dream about the idea of him giving her an easy life and handing everything to her on a plate etc.
You get the idea.
ummmm no. do you find it necessary to make these kind of assumptions about women because then you can categorize something you don't understand? some women like for men to be living independently so that.... they can prove they are *able* to live independently. for some women (AND MEN) this is very important.
i keep reading over and over on the boards how women only care about men's money, like you have essentially said once again in this thread. that is patently untrue, and unfair to the masses and masses of women who did not fit into that category at all.
[edited for spelling. sheesh]
Your argument is flawed because you are basically saying some people will assume anyone who doesn't live on their own 'cant' live independently (which is prejudice in itself) Also what's the most vital ingredient for someone who wishes to have their own flat/house? It's MONEY! In a lot of places around the world it's bloody expensive to live on your own, where you have to be working full-time and have a pretty decent salary to manage it and still live a decent life at the same time.
I know most women are not money grabbers (I should have phrased my original statement much better) in the sense of the word that society uses it and obviously your circumstances were a role reversal in the traditional sense of how a household works. But don't try fob me off by claiming most women saying income/career/status isn't a factor when judging a man when it is.
no, you are misunderstanding. i was talking about independence in terms of caring for oneself - cooking, cleaning, paying bills, coming and going as you please, having friends over without asking permission, etc. even if a person is on assistance payments they can still live independently. what i am referring to is not about money - it's about caring for oneself if they physically are able to. this is important to many men and women in a mate.
you are assuming that all women judge men for their money, and they don't. just like all men don't judge women for their looks. in both cases, about 9/10 of the human race would never ever marry if it were absolutely, or even generally, true... because most of us are not rich or hot.
i honestly think that these kinds of assumptions arise from when people are rejected by the opposite sex - women will complain that men only want beautiful skinny girls, and men complain that women only want rich alpha males. perhaps it is helpful for people to externalize the blame to the opposite sex instead of looking internally at what is pushing potential partners away.