Intellectual compatibility = utimate AS hurdle in dating?
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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
from another thread:
how about i annoy you with my theory... i have a theory that we CAN change what we are attracted to. it constantly changes on its own anyways, i.e. i don't like the same specific things in males that i went for when i was 15 years old, nor what i found attractive at 25. it's not like we are born preferring a certain type, or that type would remain static throughout our lives.
in my theory (based only on observation, not facts) think we can change our own preferences with a little openmindedness and experience.
hyperlexian wrote:
how about i annoy you with my theory... i have a theory that we CAN change what we are attracted to. it constantly changes on its own anyways, i.e. i don't like the same specific things in males that i went for when i was 15 years old, nor what i found attractive at 25. it's not like we are born preferring a certain type, or that type would remain static throughout our lives.
in my theory (based only on observation, not facts) think we can change our own preferences with a little openmindedness and experience.
As much as I like and respect the quoted poster I have to disagree - this thought looks great in hindsight, everyone does change due to things that happen in their lives that spur change. However, I have yet to see proof of it ever being voluntary. Every breakthrough takes external pressure, even internal pressure is in a sense external because the thoughts we all possess were never truly ours to begin with, just like the people or situations that imparted either identity or influenced identity can not call what they imparted their own. To say it in layman's terms - we are who we are at any given moment and that's exactly who we would have been. There's really no 'other way' unless a working escape hatch finds us, those escape hatches even are just as much set in stone for when and where we find them (let alone 'if').
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techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Merle wrote:
Because they don't understand. Yes, pretty droll, but that's the gist of it. I *can* be alone, and can find pleasure in doing things (e.g. reading a book, playing out doors, spending money, etc.) which don't require another person. It's a piece of me which is lacking, but it's not something I feel the need to sacrifice my core being to deal with.
Yeah, ambition becomes me these days - I feel like life's utterly lost without it and likely because that piece is missing. It'll be interesting to see where I'm at and what I'm doing at 35 though, I have a feeling the next few years are going to be quite an adventure.
Do it right and you'll wind up with enough "stuff" to easily keep you busy for a decade

Merle wrote:
katzefrau wrote:
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and it's been said before in this thread but i will reiterate: that isn't about having an enormous IQ and requiring someone who has an equally enormous IQ. it's about finding someone that makes some sense to you. i would retitle the idea "brain wiring compatibility"
Yes. Ranging from 143-153 (bad -> good day), combined with why I am posting on this board narrows down the field.
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a business transaction would be a "trophy wife" type situation, or someone with someone else because of the impression it gives others or for the security (or the relief of loneliness) but not love.
Humored it for a phase of my life but ultimately disregarded it.
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i'm a bit stunned to see how negative some of the responses are to this post. what's the alternative for people who feel this way? spend time with people that don't really engage you just so you don't have to be alone? that's unfair to the other person and dishonest. i like to be alone. i don't seek people out just to have company. i don't lack for anyone. i am hungry for engagement with someone, in a way, but it's not the same thing as lonely.
Because they don't understand. Yes, pretty droll, but that's the gist of it. I *can* be alone, and can find pleasure in doing things (e.g. reading a book, playing out doors, spending money, etc.) which don't require another person. It's a piece of me which is lacking, but it's not something I feel the need to sacrifice my core being to deal with.
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a merger of minds is exactly what i'm after. that's what would ignite a partnership type situation for me.
Here I am 20+ years of searching and and still looking


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there arent going to be many guys suitable for me, and i know that, but i am not suitable for many either. there are things i can offer, and lots of things i can't. those i would not go for would probably not be happy with me either.
Yes. I wholeheartedly agree.
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in my experience if someone is going to read you wrong they will continue to do so when you explain (unless your body language / affect match what you are communicating verbally - so says my therapist) unless they have a similar way of communicating, i.e. in words.
so another point: i am tired of being misread. i want to be myself. if i cannot sustain something by being me, then let it fall apart.
so another point: i am tired of being misread. i want to be myself. if i cannot sustain something by being me, then let it fall apart.
I copy-pasted this section because I think it summarizes up the point I was trying to make in this thread beautifully. I'm wondering whether I should perhaps re-title the topic to "brain-wiring compatibility" as posited by katzefrau as it may hopefully reduce the confusion and misunderstandings. Thoughts?
I too was surprised and fairly off-put by the negative reactions to this thread, but their existence and content is interesting at any rate from a psychological standpoint. I am the same in that I am hungry for that special "connection" as described, but I'd rather spend the rest of my life alone than have a "trophy husband" so to speak. I also could not maintain pretending to be someone else for the rest of my life just to be able to communicate with my significant other, both for preferential and basic health reasons; I am generally only able to maintain a complete facade for several months at the outside before needing several weeks of isolation and "being myself" time to recover - and what would any significant other think of me suddenly becoming a completely different person, and one they did not fall in love with.
I am not so extreme in the IQ department as merle myself and thus perhaps more fortunate in this respect in my potential dating pool - I would estimate my IQ to be approximately 125-130 (good-bad day) but I can thoroughly understand how this can make things even more difficult, especially communication-wise. It's not a matter of being "elitist", it's a matter of basic communication which we already struggle with due to having Aspergers.
I too pray these people exist... although I am prepared and strong enough to be alone the rest of my life if necessary, and I'm sure I could fill my life with other things and still etch out a decent existence, I hate the thought of having to deal with this unsated hunger for connection as described indefinitely, plus I'd love to have children later on.
Settling for somebody, or trying to "change myself", trying to brainwash myself into being romantically attracted to anyone who could be appropriate, or effectively giving anyone a go, will not solve this problem. In fact it will do precisely nothing, because all I would get out of the relationship would be a friendship, and perhaps some physical pleasure. I've got more than enough friendship in my life, and physical pleasure without love/deep connection is hollow.
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sunshower wrote:
and what would any significant other think of me suddenly becoming a completely different person, and one they did not fall in love with.
right. i think i've had this happen. a disappointment for both parties involved.
i dont intend children so thankfully i have no ticking clock on the issue.
perhaps retitling the post could thwart further cries of elitism which is a misunderstanding of the point, i think. (can you retitle a post??) although some of us seem to have understood you well enough.
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katzefrau wrote:
sunshower wrote:
and what would any significant other think of me suddenly becoming a completely different person, and one they did not fall in love with.
right. i think i've had this happen. a disappointment for both parties involved.
i dont intend children so thankfully i have no ticking clock on the issue.
perhaps retitling the post could thwart further cries of elitism which is a misunderstanding of the point, i think. (can you retitle a post??) although some of us seem to have understood you well enough.
Let the post settle to the second (or third) page and repost your assessment with a new title. We will have a nice historical context and potentially spark a thread with new insight. No one wants to dig through 3+ pages and "new" always piques curiosity (plus it gets some of my personal info outta there)

Merle wrote:
katzefrau wrote:
sunshower wrote:
and what would any significant other think of me suddenly becoming a completely different person, and one they did not fall in love with.
right. i think i've had this happen. a disappointment for both parties involved.
i dont intend children so thankfully i have no ticking clock on the issue.
perhaps retitling the post could thwart further cries of elitism which is a misunderstanding of the point, i think. (can you retitle a post??) although some of us seem to have understood you well enough.
Let the post settle to the second (or third) page and repost your assessment with a new title. We will have a nice historical context and potentially spark a thread with new insight. No one wants to dig through 3+ pages and "new" always piques curiosity (plus it gets some of my personal info outta there)

But I hate repeating myself!


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