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02 Dec 2010, 12:35 pm

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Oh, thank God that someone made this thread.
It used to be worse here- in my early days in the forum, there was a guy who more than once expressed the opinion that all women deserved to be raped, and noone batted an eyelid- but when a female poster made a thread expressing frustration with men (it was entitled "I hate men", but the actual content was fairly mild) it got jumped on and locked for being sexist, and that type of thing was fairly typical of the forums at the time.


KenM...he was fun :?



I used to mess with him until I got warned.


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02 Dec 2010, 12:36 pm

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Was the whole William Freund thing about his inability to get a date?



Uh oh, don't want to talk about him. It's against the rules here I found out back in February. It falls under provoking members here because of what he did.


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02 Dec 2010, 12:39 pm

League_Girl wrote:
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Oh, thank God that someone made this thread.
It used to be worse here- in my early days in the forum, there was a guy who more than once expressed the opinion that all women deserved to be raped, and noone batted an eyelid- but when a female poster made a thread expressing frustration with men (it was entitled "I hate men", but the actual content was fairly mild) it got jumped on and locked for being sexist, and that type of thing was fairly typical of the forums at the time.



Did I make that thread?

That title sounds familiar. Of course I don't remember what was said in it or what happened. I remember being frustrated about men and their sex drives and how they act. But now I am beyond that because my husband doesn't ask for it like every few days anymore or every week. I also remember being disgusted when I got told most men would not want to wait six months for sex and it sounded like to me that is all they are after so they are with the woman for it and if they don't get it, bye bye. It just made me want to make them wait that long to have it so I know they aren't using me for sex like my first ex did (I still feel that way). Then I remember getting accused of playing minds games and it's something "NTs would do" and I was like "WTF, I will not be used for sex so it's my only way to see if the man wants me for me, not for my body." Then the responses would change after that because I get told I would have to tell the guy upfront about it or else he would think I am playing mind games with him by making him.

I still think sex is over rated and still get disgusted about it when men use women as objects. It's also rare for me to run into a guy online who is icky. I just block them or ignore them.


you need help about that



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02 Dec 2010, 12:44 pm

Kilroy wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Oh, thank God that someone made this thread.
It used to be worse here- in my early days in the forum, there was a guy who more than once expressed the opinion that all women deserved to be raped, and noone batted an eyelid- but when a female poster made a thread expressing frustration with men (it was entitled "I hate men", but the actual content was fairly mild) it got jumped on and locked for being sexist, and that type of thing was fairly typical of the forums at the time.



Did I make that thread?

That title sounds familiar. Of course I don't remember what was said in it or what happened. I remember being frustrated about men and their sex drives and how they act. But now I am beyond that because my husband doesn't ask for it like every few days anymore or every week. I also remember being disgusted when I got told most men would not want to wait six months for sex and it sounded like to me that is all they are after so they are with the woman for it and if they don't get it, bye bye. It just made me want to make them wait that long to have it so I know they aren't using me for sex like my first ex did (I still feel that way). Then I remember getting accused of playing minds games and it's something "NTs would do" and I was like "WTF, I will not be used for sex so it's my only way to see if the man wants me for me, not for my body." Then the responses would change after that because I get told I would have to tell the guy upfront about it or else he would think I am playing mind games with him by making him.

I still think sex is over rated and still get disgusted about it when men use women as objects. It's also rare for me to run into a guy online who is icky. I just block them or ignore them.


you need help about that



Why?

Just because I think sex is over rated or I can't stand pigs? Or because I block those dirty men online when I run into one? Sorry but I don't like running into a diaper guy who only wants to talk about diapers and never anything else and making it all sexual and keeps asking me for advice and keeps asking for it when mine isn't good enough or when I don't have any. Then I tell him to go bug someone else about it, he still pesters me and bam welcome to my ignore list. I used to get tons of those type of men but not anymore.


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02 Dec 2010, 12:46 pm

no no thats a good thing to do-never let people walk over you
I more mean finding affection in sex with your partner, you seem burdened by the past and what your first ex did to you
more for personal benefit and healing then screwing, you know?



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02 Dec 2010, 1:18 pm

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Nearly every day I see a new thread full of sexist crap and pointless whining about how men can't get laid and how women are so unfair.
One thing so many fail to realize is, well you are the ass holes.
So many here view women as objects and feel they are entitled to sex for no reason other then the fact they exist (or some other even more stupid reason).
They don't want to do anything to try and improve themselves and make so many excuses.
The horrid sexism I see here shouldn't surprise me anymore, but it does. I was immature once, but I grew up, and there are so many here much older then me and act worse then I did at 17.

Frankly I don't care about lame excuses, or why you feel you deserve a girlfriend, this isn't a "nice guy" argument, nor an excuse to tell me your life story.
I won't listen.


Killroy, I am glad you are saying this. For those who attack you by saying this I am going to say outright, they need help. There is way to much sexism and entitlement on these boards. I am not naming names or saying it is every guy, but the misogyny is way too common. Thank you, it kind of proves to me once again there are at least some reasonable guys on this board, or at least guys who can be reasonable sometimes.

Reading conversation between leaguegirl and kilroy...its surprisingly adult.



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02 Dec 2010, 1:30 pm

[quoteI am not naming names or saying it is every guy[/quote]

Why not?

This thread is called "Men of the Forum" and tells us to get lost.

If your going to insult people, at least have the decency to name names.

I'll bet there's like 2 of them, if that.



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02 Dec 2010, 1:34 pm

hahahaahah yeah there's a lot more then 2
if it was 2, then if would have been solved by now
its something that's been going for as long as I've been here and I am sick of it
as are many others
I am not dumbing it down because some men are "worried cause it might be about them"
as I said-I don't care
I stand by what I said, all of it



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02 Dec 2010, 1:34 pm

starygrrl wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
Nearly every day I see a new thread full of sexist crap and pointless whining about how men can't get laid and how women are so unfair.
One thing so many fail to realize is, well you are the ass holes.
So many here view women as objects and feel they are entitled to sex for no reason other then the fact they exist (or some other even more stupid reason).
They don't want to do anything to try and improve themselves and make so many excuses.
The horrid sexism I see here shouldn't surprise me anymore, but it does. I was immature once, but I grew up, and there are so many here much older then me and act worse then I did at 17.

Frankly I don't care about lame excuses, or why you feel you deserve a girlfriend, this isn't a "nice guy" argument, nor an excuse to tell me your life story.
I won't listen.


Killroy, I am glad you are saying this. For those who attack you by saying this I am going to say outright, they need help. There is way to much sexism and entitlement on these boards. I am not naming names or saying it is every guy, but the misogyny is way to common. Thank you, it kind of proves to me once again there are at least some reasonable guys on this board, or at least guys who can be reasonable sometimes.


Find me a post where ToadOfSteel ever expressed entitlement or was being sexist. Why was he attacked personally?



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02 Dec 2010, 1:45 pm

Jono wrote:
starygrrl wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
Nearly every day I see a new thread full of sexist crap and pointless whining about how men can't get laid and how women are so unfair.
One thing so many fail to realize is, well you are the ass holes.
So many here view women as objects and feel they are entitled to sex for no reason other then the fact they exist (or some other even more stupid reason).
They don't want to do anything to try and improve themselves and make so many excuses.
The horrid sexism I see here shouldn't surprise me anymore, but it does. I was immature once, but I grew up, and there are so many here much older then me and act worse then I did at 17.

Frankly I don't care about lame excuses, or why you feel you deserve a girlfriend, this isn't a "nice guy" argument, nor an excuse to tell me your life story.
I won't listen.




Killroy, I am glad you are saying this. For those who attack you by saying this I am going to say outright, they need help. There is way to much sexism and entitlement on these boards. I am not naming names or saying it is every guy, but the misogyny is way to common. Thank you, it kind of proves to me once again there are at least some reasonable guys on this board, or at least guys who can be reasonable sometimes.


Find me a post where ToadOfSteel ever expressed entitlement or was being sexist. Why was he attacked personally?


You took the words too literally. The issue with Toad is that he is given tons of advice,yet he doesn't act on a bit of it. He just comes back whining about the same things with no plan of action.



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02 Dec 2010, 1:50 pm

my problem with toad (and this is the 5th time I've explained this to you people)
is people constantly give him advice, he disregards it and acts (and says) how his life is so bad and how no one understands
when there are many people here who have it so much worse and do so much better with so much less
he basically is spitting on people like that, and people he has no idea of how their past could have gone



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02 Dec 2010, 1:53 pm

Kilroy wrote:
hahahaahah yeah there's a lot more then 2
if it was 2, then if would have been solved by now
its something that's been going for as long as I've been here and I am sick of it
as are many others
I am not dumbing it down because some men are "worried cause it might be about them"
as I said-I don't care
I stand by what I said, all of it


I didn't ask you to "dumb it down" [sic]

I asked you to have the common decency to name names rather than offending every guy on the forum.



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02 Dec 2010, 1:56 pm

I don't think everyone here is dumber then a box of instant potatoes
I mean I would assume they'd know "well that can't be about me, I mean I don't post here much" or "I'm new, how is this about me"
naming names would cause a serious backlash and make it a specific hate thread

bottom line, I am not naming s**t, people know who I am talking about, and if you don't then you have no reason to be here, other then the fact that, even though the thread might not be about you, you can't take the chance and rush in, metaphorical guns blazing
shoot now, ask questions later



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02 Dec 2010, 1:58 pm

Lately, I have been focusing on bringing more positive and constructive energy into L&D. That isn't to say I don't struggle at relationships, though. I have improved over just the past year. I don't think about the "nice guy" stuff, or anything like that, I just try to be the best person I can be when communicating with someone of the opposite sex.

Most of my romantic anxiety of about the past 2 years was as a result of my experience with a specific person I was (and, admittedly, still am) very attached to. I lament the fact that, despite how much I tried to show her that I could be a good partner, her way-out-of-the-norm ideas about relationships failed to convince her of that.


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02 Dec 2010, 2:00 pm

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It seems like a lot of people on here (men and women) like to argue about arguing, then it turns into 10 page arguments. The irony.


What nilescrane said.

WP Guys: Women are hypocrites that don't know how easy they have it.

WP Girls: Walk a mile in our shoes. It's not our fault you can't get laid. Stop complaining.

I could add more dialogue, but it would only be wording those statements over again. It's two notes a measure, and the whole song sounds like that. I've wrote a measure or two, so I'm guilty of the same thing.



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02 Dec 2010, 2:01 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
Lately, I have been focusing on bringing more positive and constructive energy into L&D. That isn't to say I don't struggle at relationships, though. I have improved over just the past year. I don't think about the "nice guy" stuff, or anything like that, I just try to be the best person I can be when communicating with someone of the opposite sex.

Most of my romantic anxiety of about the past 2 years was as a result of my experience with a specific person I was (and, admittedly, still am) very attached to. I lament the fact that, despite how much I tried to show her that I could be a good partner, her way-out-of-the-norm ideas about relationships failed to convince her of that.


you started taking peoples' advice then?