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25 Nov 2013, 12:17 pm

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/06/24 ... udy-finds/

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...Far from being “naïve victims of exploitation” or “scheming Slavic beauties,” Russian mail order brides are sometimes just looking for love, says a University of Toronto researcher.

Modern visions of the “marriage broker industry” are often clouded by misconceptions, Alex Rowlson argues in “Negotiated Nuptials: A Transnational Analysis of the International Marriage Broker Industry and the Russian ‘Mail-Order Bride.” This week the Canadian Women’s Studies Association recognized the paper, which portrays arranged marriages as a moral grey area, as the best in the field by a graduate student this year.

“Women aren’t forced into these marriages, they actually have choice in the matter,” says Mr. Rowlson, a PhD student in Russian history.

While the mail-order bride industry may be tainted by visions of vulnerable women being duped into unhappy marriages, for the most part the modern practice is not much different than a cross-border version of online dating. Russian women interested in Western husbands post their own profiles. Men seeking wives then initiate a conversation with the women by email. Between 150,000 to 200,000 Russian women are currently listed on marriage databases targeting American men....

...Critics risk imposing a double standard when attacking the industry, Mr. Rowlson says. “Nobody is attacking people who use eHarmony or Match.com.”...

...Canadian marriage broker Mark Scrivener likens his industry to the influx of 48,000 European “war brides” who came to Canada at the close of the Second World War....

...The average Volga Girl client, Mr. Scrivener says, is a financially successful Christian conservative with old fashioned values. “A lot of guys work shift work, they’re more introverted, they just don’t have a lot of time for meeting women in their own city or jurisdiction,” he says. “But they do have time to correspond over the Internet and fly over to Russia once a year.”

Like Mr. Scrivener, they mainly share a desire for “traditional” women. “I just don’t need the baggage that comes with local women,” he says.

The sentiment is common among bride-seeking clients, Mr. Rowlson says. In letters to Russian women, American men often condemn the “feminists” and “feminazis” of their own country.

Russian women, meanwhile, often decry their men as abusive alcoholics. Domestic assault remains virtually unchecked in Russia. Each year, more than 14,000 Russian women are killed by domestic violence, according to 2008 data from the Russian Interior Ministry. For generations, Russian women have also faced a severe scarcity of men. The Second World War wiped out more than nine million Russian men, but of late the ranks of Russian males have been decimated by an alcoholism epidemic afflicting up to 40% of the adult population. A commonly cited statistic states that Russia has 10 million more eligible women than men.....

...Between 9,500 and 14,500 women enter the United States as mail-order brides each year, representing 0.4% of all new immigration...


The number of mail-order brides entering the USA each year is actually quite small. Russia has a surplus of good women. So, why not get one?



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26 Nov 2013, 6:19 am

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The term does sound like purchase.


I wonder if she comes with all the certificates like a pet does. chip implant and breed information etc. :P



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26 Nov 2013, 10:11 am

In looking at a couple of polls that were recently started here:

1. a lot of gents said that they would run away from either a battle-ax or a feminist.

2. a lot of the ladies indicated that they didn't want a mama's boy, a man with traditional values, nor a man who couldn't keep up with the housework and meal preparation.

Moreover, men who are shy, non-assertive or socially awkward are at quite a disadvantage in North America, where women generally prefer more assertive men.

According to the article cited above, the average Russian woman who signs up to become a mail-order bride "is a financially successful Christian conservative with old fashioned values.“ And, a lot of the gents who sought Russian mail-order brides were introverted, didn’t have time for meeting women in their own city or jurisdiction, wanted a traditional woman and did not want a feminist.

A lot of Russian women are apparently happy to marry a man who isn't a sick, abusive alcoholic, which seems to describe a large portion of Russian men.

So, a lot of the gents who are out of luck in North America, or who just can't find the kind of woman they want, probably stand a much better chance in Russia. With hundreds of thousands of Russian women advertising themselves, and fewer than 15,000 getting married every year (through the international marriage agencies), the odds would seem to be very much in the gents' favor.



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26 Nov 2013, 3:36 pm

Some of the wealthier men here have gotten mail order brides.The Philippines seem to be the place they look.One man's lady left him as soon as she could,but that did not deter him because he got another.But the worm had turned,this lady took a job(she was a professional dietician) in the local hospital,soon she had him moved to a condo near her job,and then back home :lol: But he comes back to the states for medical treatment.
Another man that owns several local stores married a beauty queen from there.His kids are not too happy fearing for their inheritance.I don't know why he would need a woman,when I worked in town he dropped a pamphlet that said"How To Deal With Your Impotence,"He was an ass so I made sure all the local gossips knew about it. :twisted:
The judge also married a girl from there,than embezzled a bunch of money from the county and took off to the Philippines with her.He had heart problems and had to return here to face the music,I guess the hospitals there are sketchy.
A service man I know has a Russian bride he met in Korea,he says there are lots of Russian women there.She had never heard thunder before she moved here.She told me it scared her so bad she said she would never go outside again. :lol:


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26 Nov 2013, 4:14 pm

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26 Nov 2013, 4:16 pm

Why not? If they're hot flexy, intelligent, and can cook: why not?



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26 Nov 2013, 5:07 pm

so how is this not slavery?



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26 Nov 2013, 10:55 pm

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Ohh, I thought they were humans. Guess one can be wrong. So can one add "extra skills" package for a fee? do they have Sunday deliveries? :P

(Sorry, that advert just makes it so dehumanizing. Like they were mail order products without any self value or feelings.)



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27 Nov 2013, 12:23 am

leafplant wrote:
so how is this not slavery?


They can run away.



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27 Nov 2013, 1:07 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
leafplant wrote:
so how is this not slavery?


They can run away.


He's got you there. :lol:

I mean, the logic is impeccable. :wink: :roll: :lmao:



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27 Nov 2013, 1:11 am

Slaves can run away too.



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27 Nov 2013, 1:32 am

Cafeaulait wrote:
Why not? If they're hot flexy, intelligent, and can cook: why not?


You should get one or maybe two...See how they go. Let us know how you get on with them.. :chin:


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27 Nov 2013, 1:40 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Slaves can run away too.


Thus me nearly dying of laughter.
...Unless of course it wasn't a joke in which case I apologize for my excessive mirth at his ignorance, though I don't regret it... :wink: :P



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27 Nov 2013, 8:16 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Slaves can run away too.


A mail order bride might run but if they do, they also risk deportation to a country where their future may be a misery. Which for some ends up in choosing between abuse with wealth or misery with poor future.

A kind of false choice. You can make a choice but it won't make real difference.



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27 Nov 2013, 9:06 am

Keyman wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Slaves can run away too.


A mail order bride might run but if they do, they also risk deportation to a country where their future may be a misery. Which for some ends up in choosing between abuse with wealth or misery with poor future.

A kind of false choice. You can make a choice but it won't make real difference.



You've missed my sarcasm; my point was that even if mail brides can run away, that doesn't mean they're not slaves.



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27 Nov 2013, 9:44 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Slaves can run away too.


Slaves who run away are in grave danger. At least this was the case in the United States during the 19th century.

Moreover, a slave trader wouldn't guarantee a free replacement if the slave that he sold you ran off during the first year.