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27 Nov 2012, 6:33 pm

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always had this strange impression aspies can see through facade's put on by other people, that normal folk seem to accept as ok.


Thats a 1st. 8O


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27 Nov 2012, 6:39 pm

That's the irony of the whole thing of being an aspie. Your sense of body language is dulled, yet there are some who can see right through people's shenanigans.


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27 Nov 2012, 6:53 pm

DialAForAwesome wrote:
That's the irony of the whole thing of being an aspie. Your sense of body language is dulled, yet there are some who can see right through people's shenanigans.


im usually one to see through crap. but its come from years of trying to learn it



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27 Nov 2012, 7:00 pm

aussiebloke wrote:
DefinitelyKmart wrote:
always had this strange impression aspies can see through facade's put on by other people, that normal folk seem to accept as ok.


Thats a 1st. 8O

I would think it was from listening to the voice, learning the voice, actually listening to the CONTENT of what people say, alot of people say alot of trash in a particularly (what i believe) charming voice, but its the content of what is said, that i evaluate..



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27 Nov 2012, 7:10 pm

MXH wrote:
DialAForAwesome wrote:
That's the irony of the whole thing of being an aspie. Your sense of body language is dulled, yet there are some who can see right through people's shenanigans.


im usually one to see through crap. but its come from years of trying to learn it


It's something I just know how to do, and is one of the things that make me kinda doubt I'm much of an aspie.


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27 Nov 2012, 7:13 pm

DialAForAwesome wrote:
MXH wrote:
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That's the irony of the whole thing of being an aspie. Your sense of body language is dulled, yet there are some who can see right through people's shenanigans.


im usually one to see through crap. but its come from years of trying to learn it


It's something I just know how to do, and is one of the things that make me kinda doubt I'm much of an aspie.

yes and no for me, i was reading about psychopathy to see if my being "weird" was related, quite gladly it wasn't, however upon reading about the behaviour of this strange breed of people, i looked for signs of it in the people around me, sure enough i found someone in my friend circle who was exhibiting all the behaviour of a psychopath..



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27 Nov 2012, 7:37 pm

DefinitelyKmart wrote:
always had this strange impression aspies can see through facade's put on by other people, that normal folk seem to accept as ok.


I agree with this - bullshitters can usually tell I see straight through them as well and don't generally take to me either lol

I think it depends on the extent to which a person has developed a social persona. If you have a well-developed one you will be more likely to be taken in by or relate to other peoples' social personae but if you don't really have one ie like me, you can't really connect with people who aren't being their authentic self.



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27 Nov 2012, 7:47 pm

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DefinitelyKmart wrote:
always had this strange impression aspies can see through facade's put on by other people, that normal folk seem to accept as ok.


I agree with this - bullshitters can usually tell I see straight through them as well and don't generally take to me either lol

I think it depends on the extent to which a person has developed a social persona. If you have a well-developed one you will be more likely to be taken in by or relate to other peoples' social personae but if you don't really have one ie like me, you can't really connect with people who aren't being their authentic self.

yeah i notice it straight away, they don''t like me either, perhaps because they know i see the lie..
I can just see it when someone approachs me, the car salesman type, says things to convince me, i look around and all about me are enamoured, i myself not so.. i struggle to see how nobody else is noticing this..



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27 Nov 2012, 8:01 pm

For those who don't like lots of reading, I've summarised the major points of this thread;

Lilya wrote:
My fairly short, two-hour-encounter with the PUA wannabes and Mystery left me very uninspired and having very little faith with their techniques


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PUA is... intended to sell E-books


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28 Nov 2012, 4:31 am

PUA is not a dysfunctional method in itself, but it only works on certain kind of people.

The Neurotypicals tend to think "if something seems, it is". Most of the people will not attempt to have a deeper conversation beyond the small talk that is intended for sharing the culture and probe another's identity instead of sharing information, or to seek a meaning beyond the associative speech without a meaning, instead basing the social value to the person on whether they appear confident and high status.

It kind of makes one realize how alien the behavior of most of the people is to us, but also makes it easier to accept yourself and the fact that not being able to fit in with everyone isn't necessarily a bad thing.



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28 Nov 2012, 9:21 am

Sidmor wrote:
PUA is not a dysfunctional method in itself, but it only works on certain kind of people.

The Neurotypicals tend to think "if something seems, it is". Most of the people will not attempt to have a deeper conversation beyond the small talk that is intended for sharing the culture and probe another's identity instead of sharing information, or to seek a meaning beyond the associative speech without a meaning, instead basing the social value to the person on whether they appear confident and high status.

It kind of makes one realize how alien the behavior of most of the people is to us, but also makes it easier to accept yourself and the fact that not being able to fit in with everyone isn't necessarily a bad thing.


Spot on!

I've noticed it's rarely about what is being said and almost totally based on what status they are affording the speaker.