DataSage’s Alpha Male Guide to Meeting Women (JULY UPDATE!!)

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30 Jul 2007, 6:20 pm

Again, there is no set of rules for this stuff. There are however guidelines, because every woman is different personality wise. But it's all the same when you're meeting them for the first time--there is rarely any difference, unless she's a miserable person or just hates men.

I think some people are over-analyzing my choice of words. When I use the word "dominant" I do not mean "Hey b***h, get on your knees," It's more like "Listen, this is where I stand. This is what I think we should do. If you don't want to join me, that's fine. If you want to, great."

I really think a lot of women will agree with me on what I'm saying. Responses in this thread are proof of that.

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30 Jul 2007, 6:23 pm

DataSage wrote:

But it's all the same when you're meeting them for the first time--there is rarely any difference, unless she's a miserable person or just hates men.

Such generalizations.

I've NEVER met someone akin to
what you describe. Nor have ANY
of my experiences been similar
to one another.

Now, could be that they've all
been miserable people - whatever
you mean by that (rather sounds
like "miserable because they don't
act according to MY plan," but whatever).
But only one hated men (changed her mind);
and she NEVER felt such a way towards me.

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30 Jul 2007, 6:33 pm

I don't see assertive confidence as being the same thing as domination. And I think that's what datasage is trying to teach us here: to be assertive and confident.

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30 Jul 2007, 7:30 pm

JonnyBGoode wrote:

I don't see assertive confidence as being the same thing as domination. And I think that's what datasage is trying to teach us here: to be assertive and confident.

Confidence is fine. Assertiveness probably works
with most women. Not the type that I tend to be
interested in (they usually DO see male behavior
as domineering). So, yeah, if you want the average
bimbo, his plan might work.

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30 Jul 2007, 10:32 pm

calandale wrote:

Such generalizations.

No. YOU are the one who's generalizing, because you're basing everything you know off of a few personal anecdotes.

calandale wrote:

I've NEVER met someone akin to
what you describe. Nor have ANY
of my experiences been similar
to one another.

This is probably why you're on an Asperger's site in a Dating forum. Tool.

calandale wrote:

Now, could be that they've all
been miserable people - whatever
you mean by that (rather sounds
like "miserable because they don't
act according to MY plan," but whatever).

Right, so apparently now the world is completely devoid of miserable people? You should work in Congress.

calandale wrote:

But only one hated men (changed her mind);
and she NEVER felt such a way towards me.

Again, anecdotal. If you would like to refute my information and guide, then do so in a credible fashion. If you would like to remain miserable, then by all means, cease reading this thread at once.

calandale wrote:

Confidence is fine. Assertiveness probably works
with most women. Not the type that I tend to be
interested in (they usually DO see male behavior
as domineering).

Right, and you accuse me of being the one who was generalizing? Get the hell out my thread. Now.

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31 Jul 2007, 2:59 am

Calandale, I just deleted your previous post because of your behavior in here, and your uncalled for trolling.

BS, "it's not my thread." I wrote the original post, it is all my original work. I can delete it, lock it down, and delete any offending posts I don't like in it (including yours--which I just did). If you keep this up, I'm going to make sure any trolling posts of yours in the future are deleted when you post in this thread. If you want to disagree and offer an opposing view--that's fine--you're not the only one to do it in this thread. But the difference is that you're turning it into a free-for-all much unlike others, who posted their criticisms and concerns in a calm and civil manner. And you will be treated accordingly so long as you keep doing so.

One last time: STOP TROLLING THIS THREAD. You have been warned.

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31 Jul 2007, 3:22 am

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I do hope you kept a record of it,
for review. You obviously can't take
anyone disagreeing with you.

THIS is the kind of overmoderation which
I tried so hard to fight against.

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31 Jul 2007, 4:22 am

If an "alpha" male is somebody who is quietly self-assured and can act decisively when the situation calls for it, that's fine and I'm all for it. It's good when a woman can feel protected and cared for and not simply be expected to care for a man without getting anything back.

I just worry that some AS men, no matter how well-intentioned they are, are never going to be able to become an "alpha" male.

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31 Jul 2007, 6:09 pm

^I don't think that it's "impossible." I've been diagnosed with AS since I was 7 from Yale University, and if it's one thing I've learned, making changes and progress (in any area of life) is all dependent upon one's will.

Anyways, I'm working on the next update rigorously. I've put in about 3 pages so far--not sure when this section will be done, possibly as soon as tonight. I'll keep you folks updated.

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31 Jul 2007, 6:16 pm

Because we're all dying to hear about
what you'll say, and then squelch any
dissenting voices about.

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31 Jul 2007, 7:02 pm

calandale wrote:

Because we're all dying to hear about
what you'll say, and then squelch any
dissenting voices about.

Stop trying to snipe this thread. This is your last warning until I start deleting posts like this regularly.

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31 Jul 2007, 7:05 pm

Can't even criticize your misuses of power?

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31 Jul 2007, 7:11 pm

Perhaps this quote should help guide
your actions:

alex wrote:

hale_bopp wrote:

I think a suitable punishment would be to re-set their post counts, or deduct posts. The best moderation in my opinion is casual moderation.

A bad moderator is someone that acts like a dictator or someone that thinks they're a cut above everyone else. I was casual at modding and pretty much everyone was happy. The only reason I don't mod now is because this one bitchy girl (may I mention, a hitler with a pretty face) snapped me on intechnicalities.

yeah basically my idea is that mods dont play police, they play firefighter.

also, you shouldn't be proud of being a moderator as my criteria for picking moderators isn't based on how good of a moderator i think you'd be and more of randomness. Also, being a moderator isn't permanent. We used to have "permanent" moderators and they all got burned out.

but if a moderator overmoderates, i'll probably just fire him or something.

mods really don't have much to do other than deleting spam

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31 Jul 2007, 7:12 pm

DataSage wrote:

calandale wrote:

Because we're all dying to hear about
what you'll say, and then squelch any
dissenting voices about.

Stop trying to snipe this thread. This is your last warning until I start deleting posts like this regularly.

When have you been a moderator, DataSage? You are not on the moderator list.

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31 Jul 2007, 7:26 pm

Quatermass wrote:

DataSage wrote:

calandale wrote:

Because we're all dying to hear about
what you'll say, and then squelch any
dissenting voices about.

Stop trying to snipe this thread. This is your last warning until I start deleting posts like this regularly.

When have you been a moderator, DataSage? You are not on the moderator list.

I've been a moderator since the last update to this guide, and the rules set out by Alex was only for this thread, because that's what it requires for me to edit my original post (for whatever reason). I have never used my mod powers until yesterday, and that's because Calandale is trolling this thread with general nonsense. If someone wants to disagree, I have no problem with that--for proof, go read the first five pages or so. But once this topic gets derailed because of someone's thread-sniping, and trollish tendencies, it ruins "megathreads" such as this.

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31 Jul 2007, 7:28 pm

This is DataSage's thread. Simple solution is to stop sniping it. If you want, you can start a new thread to talk about unrelated things.

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