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21 Apr 2013, 12:46 pm

When you're on a final warning you tend not to bite

you back away from the argument!



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21 Apr 2013, 12:53 pm

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It seems that the very idea for a male having the privilege to reject too is alien for many.


It seems that a lot of women really don't like it when they get rejected. They become really angry and pissed off.

Now they know how it feels!



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21 Apr 2013, 1:35 pm

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It seems that the very idea for a male having the privilege to reject too is alien for many.

It seems that a lot of women really don't like it when they get rejected. They become really angry and pissed off.

...and that's when the ones without any scruples will do something really nasty! Anything from rumours that cause job or friend loss, to false accusations that end in prison time. I'm living proof. :?



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21 Apr 2013, 1:47 pm

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I notice they don't try to make out that "all men are beautiful". Funny how it only works one way.


As I said before earlier here, 80% of men are ugly in women's views, according to Okcupid stats.

That's pretty far from 'all'.

It's us, the men are more varied in what we find attractive.

For instance, I personally know far more men who like overweight women than the other way!

Yet, it's us the men, who got the most bashing and accusations for being superficial lol.



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21 Apr 2013, 4:24 pm

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I notice they don't try to make out that "all men are beautiful". Funny how it only works one way.


As I said before earlier here, 80% of men are ugly in women's views, according to Okcupid stats.

That's pretty far from 'all'.

It's us, the men are more varied in what we find attractive.

For instance, I personally know far more men who like overweight women than the other way!

Yet, it's us the men, who got the most bashing and accusations for being superficial lol.


I bet the 80% is accurate. I thought I was hot stuff to get so many dates off OkCupid, until a female friend of mine started showing me a sampling of male profiles; then, I realized, I might actually be below average and should have done much much better. The men on OkCupid really are ugly and creepy -- 70-80% is about right while a lot of the women are quite attractive, both by my standards and by society's standards.

It could be that dating sites such as OkCupid, on average, attract more low-quality men relative to the quality of the women they attract. Maybe there's more of a stigma in the NT male culture against using dates sites, so only the desperate ones sign up? Anyway, I told me female friend that her standards were probably way too high (she's not ugly by any means, actually pretty attractive, and I've known her for a bit in real life) when she complained about lack of success on OKC, until she started showing me the profiles of some of the men; then, I completely changed my mind and had to agree with her.

Here's the conversation:

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Tyrion
should make an okcupid profile or something

9:19pm
Girl
i am on okc
and

9:20pm
Tyrion
on wrong planet girls claim that when they do this, they get like 100 messages a day

9:20pm
Girl
i get so many ugly guys messaging me lol

9:20pm
Tyrion
oh ok
like really ugly?
are your standards too high?

9:20pm
Girl
pretty ugly
probably

9:20pm
Tyrion
send me one
let me see

9:20pm
Girl
lol k just a sec
http://www.okcupid.com/profile/ericespi ... f=visitors

9:21pm
Tyrion
oh, he's totally beneath you
what's another one?
his profile creeps me out too

9:24pm
Girl
god they are all like that

9:24pm
Tyrion
send me another one

9:24pm
Girl
ughh fine just a sec
http://www.okcupid.com/profile/Logan1369?cf=visitors

9:25pm
Tyrion
I don't think he's creepy
but he's still beneath you in looks
way beneath you
sorry
do you message guys you are interested in?
you can't just expect men to do it all. Seriously
that's why there are so many women who are single and alone for no apparent reason

9:29pm
Girl
i do message guys
the ones i like never reply

9:29pm
Tyrion
society's gender roles are in transition now, and too many women expect equality but then also expect men to be "gentlemen" - a concept that originated when women were property -- got to take a more active role!!
wow, I don't know what to tell you then.
maybe try the ones who have a high match %

9:29pm
Girl
i have only ever made friends on okc
since i was 18

9:30pm
Tyrion
hmmm
you've been on there since 18?

9:31pm
Girl
well i wasn't using it 100% of the time but yes i have had that account that long

9:34pm
Tyrion
here I thought girls had all the advantages on those sites
guess I was wrong

9:36pm
Girl
YES YOU WERE
i wonder what it is like for the handsome guys
probably the same as the women

9:38pm
Tyrion
not sure
I'm not that handsome
though I can get good-looking women on OKC sometimes
there are lots of nice girls on there



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21 Apr 2013, 5:24 pm

Tyri0n wrote:
It could be that dating sites such as OkCupid, on average, attract more low-quality men relative to the quality of the women they attract. Maybe there's more of a stigma in the NT male culture against using dates sites, so only the desperate ones sign up?


My impression is that more than a few NT males are PROUD of being ugly, which they seem to interpret as appearing more masculine. In their own eyes at least...



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21 Apr 2013, 5:54 pm

Tyri0n wrote:

I bet the 80% is accurate. I thought I was hot stuff to get so many dates off OkCupid, until a female friend of mine started showing me a sampling of male profiles; then, I realized, I might actually be below average and should have done much much better. The men on OkCupid really are ugly and creepy -- 70-80% is about right while a lot of the women are quite attractive, both by my standards and by society's standards.

It could be that dating sites such as OkCupid, on average, attract more low-quality men relative to the quality of the women they attract. Maybe there's more of a stigma in the NT male culture against using dates sites, so only the desperate ones sign up? Anyway, I told me female friend that her standards were probably way too high (she's not ugly by any means, actually pretty attractive, and I've known her for a bit in real life) when she complained about lack of success on OKC, until she started showing me the profiles of some of the men; then, I completely changed my mind and had to agree with her.



so, it is kinda of what I;ve been saying or least for OKcupid, a bunch of unattractive guys going after a small percent of women who just happen to be attractive and above them in
social status.
guys can go after any woman they want, but if they keep going after the same type of women, and getting the same results, I say these type of men are idiots, but it's their decision.



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21 Apr 2013, 6:56 pm

PrncssAlay wrote:
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It could be that dating sites such as OkCupid, on average, attract more low-quality men relative to the quality of the women they attract. Maybe there's more of a stigma in the NT male culture against using dates sites, so only the desperate ones sign up?


My impression is that more than a few NT males are PROUD of being ugly, which they seem to interpret as appearing more masculine. In their own eyes at least...


Do explain. :)

A lot of them wear sandals and khaki shorts, which are ugly as f**k. So are sports jerseys. I guess they think it's macho, but it irritates me in the extreme. Seriously, people. Is this what you mean?



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21 Apr 2013, 8:09 pm

I guess being ugly doesn’t matter if you can … uhm … make any potential competitor uglier.



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21 Apr 2013, 11:53 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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I notice they don't try to make out that "all men are beautiful". Funny how it only works one way.


As I said before earlier here, 80% of men are ugly in women's views, according to Okcupid stats.

That's pretty far from 'all'.

It's us, the men are more varied in what we find attractive.

For instance, I personally know far more men who like overweight women than the other way!

Yet, it's us the men, who got the most bashing and accusations for being superficial lol.


I think you're comparing apples to oranges here. Men tend to be much more visual than women, so there might be a more realistic representation of who is attractive from (I'm guessing) an online picture. I also would hesitate to consider answers from an online dating site as an accurate representation of all women, or men.



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22 Apr 2013, 8:07 am

Tyri0n wrote:
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It could be that dating sites such as OkCupid, on average, attract more low-quality men relative to the quality of the women they attract. Maybe there's more of a stigma in the NT male culture against using dates sites, so only the desperate ones sign up?


My impression is that more than a few NT males are PROUD of being ugly, which they seem to interpret as appearing more masculine. In their own eyes at least...


Do explain. :) A lot of them wear sandals and khaki shorts, which are ugly as f**k. So are sports jerseys. I guess they think it's macho, but it irritates me in the extreme. Seriously, people. Is this what you mean?
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Possibly they realize that most women choose a mate for qualities other than how cute the man is (such as honesty, a warm heart, intelligence, a sense of humor, etc). At least that's true for SOME women, I can't speak for all.



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22 Apr 2013, 8:12 am

MjrMajorMajor wrote:
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It's funny for nessa saying that, since she and Major are somehow dictating what "unattractive" guys are supposed to like and what are not supposed to like.

I merely mentioned that any man automatically deeming himself "unattractive" in the first place is really shooting themselves in the foot.


I am hot stuff, and I got a date. No shooting myself in the foot, I'm a sniper, bam gotchya!


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22 Apr 2013, 8:16 am

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I'm not biting :wink:


Your not. Thanks nessa238! I asked LunaOsa out, and she said yes. We are states apart, but it is better than cross an ocean or border right?
Once I get my license, and a car and an apartment, I am going to save up money and open up a store on etsy. Thanks nessa238, sorry for the big argument we had.

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22 Apr 2013, 8:27 am

MjrMajorMajor wrote:
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I notice they don't try to make out that "all men are beautiful". Funny how it only works one way.


As I said before earlier here, 80% of men are ugly in women's views, according to Okcupid stats.

That's pretty far from 'all'.

It's us, the men are more varied in what we find attractive.

For instance, I personally know far more men who like overweight women than the other way!

Yet, it's us the men, who got the most bashing and accusations for being superficial lol.


I think you're comparing apples to oranges here. Men tend to be much more visual than women, so there might be a more realistic representation of who is attractive from (I'm guessing) an online picture. I also would hesitate to consider answers from an online dating site as an accurate representation of all women, or men.



Wrong, this is a very stupid myth fed to your throat by women magazines.

I think it's quite the contrary, it's the women who see and visually rate the smallest details in men, like clothes, shoes, hair, nails...etc.

In what way men are MUCH MORE visual than women? hmm? Bigger eyes? Infrared vision? More looks-judgmental? Isn't the 80% number defies the latter?

In fact, I've always found women are more judgmental on looks, fashion and appearance overall.


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I think you're comparing apples to oranges here.


How dare you say that men and women are that different! hyperlexian is gonna shoot you!



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How dare you say that men and women are that different! hyperlexian is gonna shoot you!


Boo, escape to the trenches, duck for cover!


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22 Apr 2013, 9:32 am

PrncssAlay wrote:
Tyri0n wrote:
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Tyri0n wrote:
It could be that dating sites such as OkCupid, on average, attract more low-quality men relative to the quality of the women they attract. Maybe there's more of a stigma in the NT male culture against using dates sites, so only the desperate ones sign up?


My impression is that more than a few NT males are PROUD of being ugly, which they seem to interpret as appearing more masculine. In their own eyes at least...


Do explain. :) A lot of them wear sandals and khaki shorts, which are ugly as f**k. So are sports jerseys. I guess they think it's macho, but it irritates me in the extreme. Seriously, people. Is this what you mean?
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Possibly they realize that most women choose a mate for qualities other than how cute the man is (such as honesty, a warm heart, intelligence, a sense of humor, etc). At least that's true for SOME women, I can't speak for all.


Unfortunately and sadly, this seems to be true. That's why I am hopeless, except for the sense of humor part, sometimes.

Boo is trying valiantly to advance an alternative theory, but it doesn't quite match with my experience. I'd say appearance is somewhat less important for most women than it is for most men. It's more important than some of them claim it is, but it's still less important than other things.